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Old 01/11/07, 3:12 AM   #251
dicedlemming
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Murloc Druid
 
My favorite change in 2.0.3 is definately how they added BC loot tables to mobs over level 60. You can now go and farm the level 68-70 mobs around Karazhan for level 66+ BoEs along with the new tier of potions and netherweave.

I was shown http://img149.imageshack.us/my.php?image=epicgunmu2.jpg but I am not sure of the validity of the picture. I only managed to find about 7 greens while there tonight. Also the NPCs in front of Karazhan now sell the reputation rewards but it is still impossible to actually get reputation.
 
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Old 01/11/07, 3:26 AM   #252
Maax
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Originally Posted by Vinsent
Originally Posted by Kalman
I am so looking for an explanation for the following line in my combat log from tonight:

"1/10 20:36:09.359 Your Judgement of Light heals you for 215."
Ummm grouped with a paladin with Imp Scanity aura and a druid in treeform with 600 or so spirt?

Thats insane if thats correct, but I have no idea what else it could be. Time to test JoL when I get home tonight.
Rogue in our raid tonight got similar results with his 8/8 Bloodfang proc when he had a tree druid in his party.

edit.

He is not assasin spec, so he doen't have that + to himself being healed talent.

Devs: Our nerfs will block out the sun!
Druids: Then we will tank in the shade.
 
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Old 01/11/07, 4:30 AM   #253
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Originally Posted by Kalman
I am so looking for an explanation for the following line in my combat log from tonight:

"1/10 20:36:09.359 Your Judgement of Light heals you for 215."
I noticed something similar to this during World Dragons today. The paladin who was applying JoL had a tree form druid in his group, so I'm assuming that caused it.
 
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Old 01/11/07, 4:35 AM   #254
Jubling
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Originally Posted by Snowy
The tooltip for Vampiric Embrace says it's now 30% of shadow dmg -> heal, and then the 2 points in the talent would take it up to 40%. This is not actually happening though, a swp tick of 333 produced a 100 VE heal, which is 30% total.

I'm not sure why they would buff VE in the first place.
The tooltip for the base spell updates when you pick Improved VE, so it's still 20% improved to 30%
 
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Old 01/11/07, 4:41 AM   #255
Kaelana
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Originally Posted by RK
Re: release dates

Same in Australia, 17th. Don't worry Americans, you guys will still get it first. They remember the bad press they got for the timing of the C'Thun fix </troll>

Actually, it's a good thing. If Australia and NZ did get it on the 16th, I have no doubt at all the stocks available to us would have been seriously depleted by people doing exactly what was suggested, people in the US arranging to buy copies in Australia/NZ and have the CD key sent over.
Fyi Singapore pre-order collection event is on the 16th afternoon Singapore time. I actually believe I'll have to wait for 2-3 hours for the gates to open even though I'd have the expansion pack by then >.>
 
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Old 01/11/07, 4:57 AM   #256
Saigone
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Undocumented, but clearly the most important change. 6 Demon bag has had its cooldown reduced to 3 minutes! This made me far more happy than it should have done.
 
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Old 01/11/07, 5:23 AM   #257
yakuza
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Originally Posted by Elvenstein
Originally Posted by Kalman
I am so looking for an explanation for the following line in my combat log from tonight:

"1/10 20:36:09.359 Your Judgement of Light heals you for 215."
I noticed something similar to this during World Dragons today. The paladin who was applying JoL had a tree form druid in his group, so I'm assuming that caused it.
The Druid Tree of Life get changed so that it now affects healing recieved by party members, not healing done any more

- "Tree of Life" healing bonus now increases the healing received
by your party members instead of the healing dealt by your party members.
so if there was a druid in your group you would expect all of your healing taken to recieve quite a buff. Might be one expanation?
 
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Old 01/11/07, 6:42 AM   #258
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It seems to be possible to assault flags in BG using far sight as of this patch.
Horde has been abusing this quite much just in the las AV match with Shamans, unknown to me if Hunters can do it as well.

*Very* annoying, seeing nobody at the flag, not in stealth, not as ghost wolf, and yet the graveyard is being assaulted.


//Edit
Not a horde only bug, and nothing to do with far sight, etc.
See this very well written post about the problem:
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...65157472&sid=1

 
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Old 01/11/07, 7:00 AM   #259
Schnappi
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If a mob targets you before you target it, it's unit frame doesnt show. Using default UFs.

I heard rumours say it is related to CTRA.
 
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Old 01/11/07, 7:06 AM   #260
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Quick recovery, Tree of life, and Sanc aura do not explain JoL at level 60 going from 61 healing to 251 or 95 to 251 if it was the level 69 seal.

They also don't explain this http://www.ctscreens.net/3510.
 
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Old 01/11/07, 7:28 AM   #261
Mosh
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Anyone else getting weird CHAT_MSG_SPELL_BREAK_AURA errors in their chatlog after this patch? I get it everytime an effect is removed from someone (either dispelled or a CC being broken). I've tried turning some addons on and off but I can't seem to find the source.

Example: (this is all in red and in my chat window): CHAT_MSG_SPELL_BREAK_AURA: Pantheon's Thorns is removed by Vangsö's Dispel Magic.
 
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Old 01/11/07, 7:30 AM   #262
Schnappi
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I got them first after 2.0.1, Mosh. But they are much more frequent now.
 
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Old 01/11/07, 7:32 AM   #263
Eylirria
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Skywall
Originally Posted by Malan
Yes but CM posts have stated that you will NOT be able to use the BC Beta Client to access Outlands after the 16th as it will requires a product key at that point.
We can't access outlands as it is right now, or the blood elf city, or draenai's. That doesnt have anything to do with the client, but whether or not you are "flagged" for TBC content.

As long as you can upgrade your account to TBC status, you should be able to make do with the BETA client just fine.
 
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Old 01/11/07, 7:33 AM   #264
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I believe it's because they're a new to Beta type of spell event, and an old addon that handles combatlog traffic is not parsing them correctly.
 
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Old 01/11/07, 7:33 AM   #265
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Originally Posted by Ultramax
They also don't explain this http://www.ctscreens.net/3510.
Seal of Light ? That's paladin self-buff, how comes it shows on that troll warrior SCT ?

Fun is for casuals
 
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Old 01/11/07, 7:42 AM   #266
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On the subject of unusual bugs, I found out by accident yesterday that I could dispel the debuffs from dueling Alliance players as a Horde priest. This was on a PvE server at the Dark Portal...

A human warlock and human paladin were dueling there, and by accident I dispelled the paladin when he was feared... And it removed his fear. Curious, I watch as the warlock fears again, and this time I dispel him again. Next fear I just let run and I then waited for the warlock to use some DoTs, I ended up dispelling all of those too.

The paladin than walked up to the Warlock and used Hammer of Justice, so I decided to see if it was just a bug with that one player and tried to dispel the warlock and I removed Hammer of Justice from the warlock.

This was with all players involved not being PvP enabled, and I only tried it with Dispel Magic. I should probably have tried whether I could cast healing spells or buffs on them too, but I didn't think of trying at the time. Also if the official forums are to be believed I upset the order of the universe by making a paladin defeat a warlock in a duel.

buff /bʌf/ Pronunciation[buhf]
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Old 01/11/07, 7:47 AM   #267
Athinira
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Originally Posted by Darkmantle
Many abilities have changed over the patches to still apply a main effect while the mob is immune to the secondary effect.

a.k.a frost shock, intercept and the like

If the intention of lacerate is to be a spam agro ability with a secondary stable agro effect then it may be changed to still do the initial threat even on bleed immune mobs.
The abilities you list have a very important difference: They do initial impact damage which means that they are useable on mobs there is immune to the secondary effects.

There is a difference between being directly immune to a specific move and being immune to a secondary effect of the move (Frost Shock Slow, Hamstring Slow, Intercept Stun) that deals direct damage. In this case Lacerate doesn't deal direct damage and threat is therefore not applied.

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Old 01/11/07, 7:54 AM   #268
Tel
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Originally Posted by Mosh
Anyone else getting weird CHAT_MSG_SPELL_BREAK_AURA errors in their chatlog after this patch? I get it everytime an effect is removed from someone (either dispelled or a CC being broken). I've tried turning some addons on and off but I can't seem to find the source.

Example: (this is all in red and in my chat window): CHAT_MSG_SPELL_BREAK_AURA: Pantheon's Thorns is removed by Vangsö's Dispel Magic.
try updating your version of buffalo if you use it) but more importantly SimpleCombatLog. I was running a sligfhtly outdated version and it threw up literally hundreds of those errors as i logged on in IF's duelling spot.
 
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Old 01/11/07, 8:02 AM   #269
Mosh
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Turns out it was SimpleCombatLog, thanks for the tips.
 
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Old 01/11/07, 8:15 AM   #270
Morghulis
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Reflector trinkets now have a chance to fizzle when used by players over level 60.

Sigh :(
 
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Old 01/11/07, 8:31 AM   #271
Tanoh
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Originally Posted by Drauk
Seal of Light ? That's paladin self-buff, how comes it shows on that troll warrior SCT ?
Me and a friend plays alliance alts sometimes when we're bored. Anyway, we were out questing and we find this horde player at the same place. Being honourable horde originally we help him out when he's in trouble. My friend is pally and uses Judgement of Wisdom on the mob (I'm caster and like the mana :>) and afterwards we checked the combat log, and saw that the horde player got mana by hitting the mob too.

Seems like the judgements/seals doesn't care about faction boundaries, even less party.

So, probably one of the pallies in the screenshot had debuffed the mob and the troll warrior gets healed :>


edit: Actually, looking at the screenshot again. It's far easier :> They are lvl ~70 and probably has a pally in the group (isn't that BoK on the buff bar?)
 
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Old 01/11/07, 8:36 AM   #272
Mosh
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Originally Posted by Tanoh
Originally Posted by Drauk
Seal of Light ? That's paladin self-buff, how comes it shows on that troll warrior SCT ?
Me and a friend plays alliance alts sometimes when we're bored. Anyway, we were out questing and we find this horde player at the same place. Being honourable horde originally we help him out when he's in trouble. My friend is pally and uses Judgement of Wisdom on the mob (I'm caster and like the mana :>) and afterwards we checked the combat log, and saw that the horde player got mana by hitting the mob too.

Seems like the judgements/seals doesn't care about faction boundaries, even less party.

So, probably one of the pallies in the screenshot had debuffed the mob and the troll warrior gets healed :>


edit: Actually, looking at the screenshot again. It's far easier :> They are lvl ~70 and probably has a pally in the group (isn't that BoK on the buff bar?)
I think you missed the point entirely. SEAL of Light is the self-buff only Paladins can get, supposedly, and yet the Troll Warrior is getting healed by it, and not Judgement of Light.
 
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Old 01/11/07, 9:24 AM   #273
Kamna
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Originally Posted by beryl
Not sure if it might have already been posted but http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6251593.stm
"Players will be able to buy The Burning Crusade from retail stores or download it via the World of Warcraft website."
Players will be able to buy The Burning Crusade from retail stores but so far there are no plans to let people download it.
???
 
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Old 01/11/07, 9:38 AM   #274
Ukerric
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That's not what the site says?
Players will be able to buy The Burning Crusade from retail stores but so far there are no plans to let people download it.
 
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Old 01/11/07, 9:46 AM   #275
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Originally Posted by Mosh
I think you missed the point entirely. SEAL of Light is the self-buff only Paladins can get, supposedly, and yet the Troll Warrior is getting healed by it, and not Judgement of Light.
Yes, exactly.

BTW, i have come crazy theory about it. According to Slouken (http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/us/63757216.htm) name lookup function in base UI is borked. Could it be that Seal of Light piece of code uses that lookup, gets the name of warrior instead of paladin and behave accordingly ?

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