Hmm.. missed that, well never write on forums without coffee first. :>

BBC News site screws up, film at 11. They really need some better researchers. There's no point saying *anything* about release dates, availability, means of distribution etc. unless it's direct from Blizzard's own site, period.

I'm not running CTRA, and I'm getting this bug about 40% of the time when I target something. Didn't seem to make a difference what mods I was or was not running, still was happening almost half the time.

Untested code straight to production servers FTW!

With this bug, oddly, simply turning mods off isn't sufficient - to fix the problem on my PC, I had to outright remove my entire interface directory, let WoW re-create it and then replace all the non-CTRA mods I was using, which seems to have sorted it out. Although this solution hasn't worked for other people, so it seems this bug is more subtle than that for some, but it's worth a try if you've only tried disabling the mod, instead of removing it entirely.

Can confirm that there is indeed an issue with mind control; whether or not it is restricted to mob mind controls or if the Priest/Gnomish Mind-Control Cap versions are affected too, I don't know. All I noticed was every time a tank got mind-controlled on Hakkar, they would get disconnected. Made aggro somewhat dodgy, as the affected tank also appeared to have his threat wiped. Thank god this wasn't on Kel'Thuzad! Has anyone noticed any issues with the Priest version?

Except, look at the combat log, it's healing -everyone-. Might just be a bug with Seal of Light?

I only got disconnected once when mindcontrolled while tanking Hakkar on my alt. I also haven't had the no targetframe bug. I don't have CTRA and am using ag_uf.

Its something ctmod related. I had the exact same issue with a full ctmod install. I removed ctraid. Issue persists. Removed all of the Ctmod folders and the issue disappeared. Now whether its a bug in ctmod or a result of ctmod and the somewhat buggy blizzard ui code for this release Im not sure.

Hmm... interesting, I guess they changed tooltips to update now? Or was it always like that? I didn't recall seeing that before, and didn't really want to blow 50g on a respec to find out!

A few patches ago they fixed the spell tooltips. I think buff tooltips are still static.

They are for mage buffs at least. The tooltip on the button shows the improved dampen/amp magic but if you mouse over the buff it is not updated.

Another undocumented change: Ores now stack in 20s

I believe our paladins have said that having Judgement of the Crusader up is what's causing the 180+ heals from Judgement of Light. The amount healed is affected by Quick Recovery (rogue talent), Improved Sanctity Aura, and having a treeform druid in your party. It doesn't affect Judgement of Wisdom.

For the hordies out there, Judgement of Light heals for 61 unbuffed and has a 40% proc rate on swings. The unintended buff may save me some money on Loatheb if they don't ninja fix it.

I may be wrong about all this, I only have a level 11 paladin myself.

Didn't see this anywhere, but combat healing and mana pots now stack to 10. I now have an incentive to continue pvp'ing.

Interesting. I'll try and test that at some point, Arilyn. Ultramax, we were in Naxx, fighting trash in spider and DK.

QR would normally boost JoLight healing 20%, and does in fact only boost it that much; rogues without it were also seeing massive JoLight boosts. It wasn't BoLight, wasn't Sanctity Aura. JoCrus is believable.

Major Combat Healing/Mana pots (also stacking to 10) are in as well, with a level 61 requirement. They cost 2 of any BG mark each, which seems a little pricey, unless you're in a premade that rolls BGs constantly and has way more marks than honor. Wish there was an option to buy those pots with a straight honor purchase :(

While they're tagged with a Unique (10) tag, it seems that the ones you buy with each type of BG mark are tagged with a different item id.

So you can buy 10 Major HP/MP Combat Pots using WSG marks, then 10 more using AB marks, 10 more with AV marks, for a total of 30 pots of each type. (And I'd guess 10 more of each type using Eye of the Storm marks) The pots will form separate stacks. (I noticed this bug by trying to buy a stack using WSG and AB marks, but found that I ended up with 2 stacks of the same type of pot)


Even if they fix this later and take away the extras, I'm glad that my excess AB/WSG marks didn't go to waste in the mailbox. = P

As to Judgement of Light being bugged, we have had a variety of reported numbers during our raids. Anything ffrom 103 to 232. It most definitely is not healing for the expected amount. The rogues with quick recovery did have higher numbers but they seemed in line with a 20% increase. Me and a paladin buddy decided to do some testing. During a duel, a normal JoL on me without the 2 piece Redemption bonus would heal him for the normal amount (61). If he put on 2 piece redemption, it would heal him for 101 (not the 81 that would be expected). During the previous night's raid it had been healing him for 103 so we figured we'd try and find what stat was changing it. We tested pretty much every condition on him we could come up with (+heal, +damage, int, stam, spi, stam, agi, str, weapon speed, target armor, targets life). Nothing had any effect. It was always 101 for him solo.

We were quite confused.

Who on earth doesn't have excess marks? I bought 67k honor worth of rewards plus a mount for my warrior alt and I have around 175 marks left over, plus at least 100 that I destroyed from the mailbox. I'm glad they made them useful for something.

After the patch has anyone randomly learned alchemy recipes by creating pots? Just curious if that was implemented in live yet.

Don't quote me on this, but i think its only >300 recipes that are available to be 'learnt'. I didn't hear of any lower level ones being learnt on beta anyway.

We had an interesting bug with raid-leader position tonight.

Apparently, switching RL assigned it to a random member of the raid, or at least, it was not necessarily going to the person it was meant to. It could just have been half the raid bored and messing around and I wasn't in on the joke, but this was a two-guild pick-up affair and I don't see the other guild being in on it. I didn't end up as RL at any point, so didn't get an opportunity to try setting a new leader and testing it myself.