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Old 01/29/07, 8:51 AM   #1
candlegarden
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I know there is a TBC factions thread but it doesn't cater to what I have in mind and it hasn't been updated for awhile. If the below information is listed else where (and preferably not burried in a 140 page thread) please direct me that way.

Anyway, as we know in order to reach parts of the end game content we have to finish some 5 men dungeons in heroic mode. However in order to do this you need to first get revered with a faction related to those 5 men dungeons so that you can receive the key to unlock the heroic mode. AFAIK the factions you need to get revered with are:

- Honor Hold / Thrallmar
- Cenarion Expedition
- Lower City
- Keepers of Time
- Sha'tar

Now IIRC the easiest way to rep up with HH is to grind ramparts, than furnace until 5999/6000 rep and than start doing the quests and any left over rep deficit can be closed via pvp quest in Hellfire (has it been nurfed?) and running shattered halls.
For cenarion expedition it is turning in plant parts and/or running slave pens and underbog until 5999/6000 rep and than doing the quests.

Could you please correct me if I have a mistake in any of the above text? Also, similar to the above, what is the fastest (or easiest) way to get rep with Lower City, Keepers of Time and Sha'tar?

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Old 01/29/07, 9:04 AM   #2
Ghostz
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Originally Posted by candlegarden
Now IIRC the easiest way to rep up with HH is to grind ramparts, than furnace until 5999/6000 rep and than start doing the quests and any left over rep deficit can be closed via pvp quest in Hellfire (has it been nurfed?) and running shattered halls.
For cenarion expedition it is turning in plant parts and/or running slave pens and underbog until 5999/6000 rep and than doing the quests.
Yeah, I didn't do it this way, but grinding ramparts/furnace until honored then doing all the quests will probably get you really close to, if not revered by the time you're 62-63 leaving the zone. The pvp quest has been nerfed pretty hard as you said, it only gives 10 rep now. If you didn't get to revered before leaving the zone, Shattered halls at or around 70 is your best bet to finish up. I actually have a quick question about this, do those 30 min +25%rep buffs work for the rep in Shattered Halls? I don't see why they wouldn't, but just making sure.

The rest I'm not too sure about, I know that Lower City is related to the instances in Aunchindon (save Mana-Tombs I think) and Keepers of the Time with Caverns of Time, but I'm not sure if running instances would be the best and fastest way to hit revered.

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Old 01/29/07, 9:06 AM   #3
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Originally Posted by Ghostz
I actually have a quick question about this, do those 30 min +25%rep buffs work for the rep in Shattered Halls?
The buff does work in Shattered Halls, but make sure you have a solid group (buff does not last thru death).

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Old 01/29/07, 10:33 AM   #4
kharen
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I didn't bother doing anything special in order to expedite repping up, just played the game normally by questing, occasional instancing (mostly for quests), and so on, and I'm still pretty close on a lot of the reps already.

KoT is pretty trivial - the quests for Old Hillsbrad and the Black Morass give a ton of rep, and I hit revered from completing the Black Morass quest, IIRC (thanks to a somewhat underlevelled group we wiped quite a lot in black morass before completing it, though, which got us a fair bit of rep from kills; the quests may not be quite enough on their own, assuming you head in and one-shot everything).

Cenarion Expedition, I'm 1k away from revered from just questing normally in Zangarmarsh (+blade's edge and the few CE quests in Netherstorm) a couple of low-level instance runs, plant part handins just from what I picked up questing, and a single Steamvaults run (where I was horrendously unlucky with armaments, and only got two compared to the 5-6 the rest of the party got).

Lower City I'm around 3k away from, after just questing through Terokkar and the Auchindoun instances. Could easily have been sped up by instancing to honored, and only then questing.

Thrallmar and Sha'tar are the ones I'm furthest off revered with (just over 5k or so to go on both), Thrallmar probably because i quested through Hellfire as quickly as possible in order to get away from the overcrowding, which meant i only did a couple of Ramparts/Blood Furnace runs before I hit honored (and moved on to Zangarmarsh and Slave Pens/Underbog), and Sha'tar simply because it mostly only comes from Tempest Keep runs, which I haven't done much of yet.

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Old 01/29/07, 11:49 AM   #5
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At what point does steam vaults stop giving rep for kills? Do you have to go heroic once you hit revered or can you grind all the way to exalted in normal steam vaults? Also does the armaments quest stop at revered or can you turn in for rep all the way to exalted?

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Old 01/29/07, 11:51 AM   #6
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I still get rep in Steamvaults at revered. Didnt pay too close attention to whether it was reduced, or if it didn't rep up off of all the same mobs.

Edit: Armaments still work at revered as well.

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Old 01/29/07, 11:56 AM   #7
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Originally Posted by Mordinm
At what point does steam vaults stop giving rep for kills? Do you have to go heroic once you hit revered or can you grind all the way to exalted in normal steam vaults? Also does the armaments quest stop at revered or can you turn in for rep all the way to exalted?
It never stops. Steam Vaults gives the same rep til exalted. I can say this with authority since I'm about 500 rep from exalted, myself. ;)

Now if only it were on my druid...

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Old 01/29/07, 1:27 PM   #8
Rogar
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I ran Slave Pens and Underbog once before completing all Cenarion Expedition quests in Zangarmarsh and Blade's Edge. After that, one run through Steamvaults and half a dozen armaments later, I hit revered Cenarion Expedition.

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Old 01/29/07, 1:50 PM   #9
candlegarden
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Than would this mean that there is no optimal way to gain lower city, keepers of time or sha'tar rep for example like aldors; turn in marks of kil'jaeden until 5999/6000 than do quests ?

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Old 01/29/07, 2:05 PM   #10
Darksaber
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For Lower City you can turn in Arakkoa Feathers in batches of 30 up until right above Honored and then do the quests, then run Shadow Lab. for the rest of the rep. I don't know if that's optimal...

As for Aldors, I suppose you could somehow just grind Tempest Keep until that capped out, if it even does, and then do the quests? I'm not sure at ALL about this last one, so please don't take my word as canon.

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Old 01/29/07, 2:25 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by Elendril
It never stops. Steam Vaults gives the same rep til exalted. I can say this with authority since I'm about 500 rep from exalted, myself. ;)

Now if only it were on my druid...
Excellent news; I've been eagerly awaiting confirmation of this as the four other guys I normally run instances are finally at 69/70 so we're starting to touch the level 70 5-mans.

Does anyone have a breakdown of which Lv70 instances give what rep to what faction?

Shadow Lab -> Lower City
Steam Vaults -> Cen. Expedition
Shattered Halls -> Honor Hold (?)
Tempest Keep -> Sha'tar

edit: Compiling instances -> factions & correcting mistakes...

I am not your personal Frost Deathknight knowledge base. If you have a simple question, ask in the simple questions thread; if you have a more esoteric, specific, or complicated question, ask in the spec-appropriate thread.

My PM, WoWmail, and, especially, chat boxes are NOT the appropriate places for these questions.

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Old 01/29/07, 2:33 PM   #12
Vodrin
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Tempest Keep -> Sha'tar

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Old 01/29/07, 2:35 PM   #13
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Old 01/29/07, 3:38 PM   #14
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I hit revered with Keepers of Time. Once you hit that if you try to do the Black Morass only the Assassins give 1 rep and the Rift Lords (not the casters) give 50 rep. Bosses stay the norm at 120(?). I got approx. 800 Rep running it as exalted. So about 27 runs to go from revered to exalted.

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Old 01/29/07, 4:22 PM   #15
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Originally Posted by flyinfungi
I hit revered with Keepers of Time. Once you hit that if you try to do the Black Morass only the Assassins give 1 rep and the Rift Lords (not the casters) give 50 rep. Bosses stay the norm at 120(?). I got approx. 800 Rep running it as exalted. So about 27 runs to go from revered to exalted.
Revered->Exalted is usually meant for the Heroic levels, I think.


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