I know there is a TBC factions thread but it doesn't cater to what I have in mind and it hasn't been updated for awhile. If the below information is listed else where (and preferably not burried in a 140 page thread) please direct me that way.

Anyway, as we know in order to reach parts of the end game content we have to finish some 5 men dungeons in heroic mode. However in order to do this you need to first get revered with a faction related to those 5 men dungeons so that you can receive the key to unlock the heroic mode. AFAIK the factions you need to get revered with are:

- Honor Hold / Thrallmar
- Cenarion Expedition
- Lower City
- Keepers of Time
- Sha'tar

Now IIRC the easiest way to rep up with HH is to grind ramparts, than furnace until 5999/6000 rep and than start doing the quests and any left over rep deficit can be closed via pvp quest in Hellfire (has it been nurfed?) and running shattered halls.
For cenarion expedition it is turning in plant parts and/or running slave pens and underbog until 5999/6000 rep and than doing the quests.

Could you please correct me if I have a mistake in any of the above text? Also, similar to the above, what is the fastest (or easiest) way to get rep with Lower City, Keepers of Time and Sha'tar?

Yeah, I didn't do it this way, but grinding ramparts/furnace until honored then doing all the quests will probably get you really close to, if not revered by the time you're 62-63 leaving the zone. The pvp quest has been nerfed pretty hard as you said, it only gives 10 rep now. If you didn't get to revered before leaving the zone, Shattered halls at or around 70 is your best bet to finish up. I actually have a quick question about this, do those 30 min +25%rep buffs work for the rep in Shattered Halls? I don't see why they wouldn't, but just making sure.

The rest I'm not too sure about, I know that Lower City is related to the instances in Aunchindon (save Mana-Tombs I think) and Keepers of the Time with Caverns of Time, but I'm not sure if running instances would be the best and fastest way to hit revered.

The buff does work in Shattered Halls, but make sure you have a solid group (buff does not last thru death).

I didn't bother doing anything special in order to expedite repping up, just played the game normally by questing, occasional instancing (mostly for quests), and so on, and I'm still pretty close on a lot of the reps already.

KoT is pretty trivial - the quests for Old Hillsbrad and the Black Morass give a ton of rep, and I hit revered from completing the Black Morass quest, IIRC (thanks to a somewhat underlevelled group we wiped quite a lot in black morass before completing it, though, which got us a fair bit of rep from kills; the quests may not be quite enough on their own, assuming you head in and one-shot everything).

Cenarion Expedition, I'm 1k away from revered from just questing normally in Zangarmarsh (+blade's edge and the few CE quests in Netherstorm) a couple of low-level instance runs, plant part handins just from what I picked up questing, and a single Steamvaults run (where I was horrendously unlucky with armaments, and only got two compared to the 5-6 the rest of the party got).

Lower City I'm around 3k away from, after just questing through Terokkar and the Auchindoun instances. Could easily have been sped up by instancing to honored, and only then questing.

Thrallmar and Sha'tar are the ones I'm furthest off revered with (just over 5k or so to go on both), Thrallmar probably because i quested through Hellfire as quickly as possible in order to get away from the overcrowding, which meant i only did a couple of Ramparts/Blood Furnace runs before I hit honored (and moved on to Zangarmarsh and Slave Pens/Underbog), and Sha'tar simply because it mostly only comes from Tempest Keep runs, which I haven't done much of yet.

At what point does steam vaults stop giving rep for kills? Do you have to go heroic once you hit revered or can you grind all the way to exalted in normal steam vaults? Also does the armaments quest stop at revered or can you turn in for rep all the way to exalted?

I still get rep in Steamvaults at revered. Didnt pay too close attention to whether it was reduced, or if it didn't rep up off of all the same mobs.

Edit: Armaments still work at revered as well.

I ran Slave Pens and Underbog once before completing all Cenarion Expedition quests in Zangarmarsh and Blade's Edge. After that, one run through Steamvaults and half a dozen armaments later, I hit revered Cenarion Expedition.

Than would this mean that there is no optimal way to gain lower city, keepers of time or sha'tar rep for example like aldors; turn in marks of kil'jaeden until 5999/6000 than do quests ?

For Lower City you can turn in Arakkoa Feathers in batches of 30 up until right above Honored and then do the quests, then run Shadow Lab. for the rest of the rep. I don't know if that's optimal...

As for Aldors, I suppose you could somehow just grind Tempest Keep until that capped out, if it even does, and then do the quests? I'm not sure at ALL about this last one, so please don't take my word as canon.

Excellent news; I've been eagerly awaiting confirmation of this as the four other guys I normally run instances are finally at 69/70 so we're starting to touch the level 70 5-mans.

Does anyone have a breakdown of which Lv70 instances give what rep to what faction?

Shadow Lab -> Lower City
Steam Vaults -> Cen. Expedition
Shattered Halls -> Honor Hold (?)
Tempest Keep -> Sha'tar

edit: Compiling instances -> factions & correcting mistakes...

Tempest Keep -> Sha'tar

I hit revered with Keepers of Time. Once you hit that if you try to do the Black Morass only the Assassins give 1 rep and the Rift Lords (not the casters) give 50 rep. Bosses stay the norm at 120(?). I got approx. 800 Rep running it as exalted. So about 27 runs to go from revered to exalted.

Revered->Exalted is usually meant for the Heroic levels, I think.

I know I'm missing something obvious, but which buff is this?

Item that costs 5 Marks of Honor at the Quartermaster.

You can purchase them from the same NPCs who give you the quest in Hellfire to capture the 3 PvP objectives.

It works, just not through death. >=)

Just for mobs that give reputation or experience.

[Thrallmar Favor]

And only inside HFP.

Heres a question I didnt see...
I chose Aldor and have yet to do the Nether questline for it, wanting to save it for Revered -> Exalted rep since I am already 70 and dont need the xp.
Does anyone know if you can turn in greater Marks from revered to exalted? Or should I use them all up to revered and then get rid of the rest? I have a veritable metric ton of them from way too many ShadowLabs runs =/

Thanks

Also to stay more "on topic": I gather it is the same for Scryer however I am Aldor and it is easy as pie to rep up. I grinded the Cabal mobs outside of Auchindoun for maybe...3 hours combined and walked away with over 400 lesser marks and ~a dozen fel arms that I am saving for later. That easily pushed both myself on my questing partner (who wasnt on, hence why I was grinding) to honored. From there I have done way too many ShadowLabs runs since everyone and their mother wants to do it... except me. However I have banked ~200 Marks of Sargaeras and another 10ish Fel Arms since most of my groups are always Scryer.
My plan now is to figure out how many turnins for Revered (should be easily doable with a few more SL runs). Then find the best way to Exalted. I am supposing quests in Nether + Fel Arms will hit it for me.
But if you just want the green enchant its easy as pie to get.

You can use the higher rep tokens all the way to exalted.

I don't see the advantage of grinding the lower instances before the quests; it's still an instance grind, and personally I'd rather grind the higher instances to finish the rep off after leveling than to artificially hold myself back from quests to grind the lower instances with no hope of item upgrades and less interesting instances.

Not having instance ground at all, just questing, I'm looking at a total of 5 Shattered Halls to hit revered, 2 Steamvaults, 3 or 4 Morasses (after the one mandatory Durnholde), 3 or 4 Tempest Keep wings, and 4 or 5 Shadow Labs. This is after completing pretty much ever solo quest, though.

I really don't think that the 2 or 3 instance runs you can avoid by grinding instances is worth it, though.

For the factions the op mentioned, you really don't need to do anything special.

I am at 6/12k with honor hold, I have only done all Hellfire peninsula quests and ran all instances once to get the quests in there done. 3-4 more SH runs and I will be revered.

I am at 11/12k Cenarion expedition after hitting 70, having done all coilfang once each instance and having done ce quests in zangarmarsh, terokkar and blade's edge only.


I am somewhere near revered with the other ones too, having only done the same thing, the relevant dungeons once and grabbing all the available quests for that faction. It's really very easy getting to revered for each faction and you don't need to worry about it, assuming you have a player pool to do instances with 3-4 times after you run out of quests. Don't know about getting to exalted though, even if I only cared for cenarion and sha'tar, so didn't bother to check the rest.

I havn't done ANY grinding for rep, be it in instances or with handins, and I have hit revered with half of the factions and are very close with the others; a couple of runs of the level 70 instances will see me there.

I suggest you just level up the normal way, do quests when you get them, and everything else will sort itself out.

Note: I have completed pretty much every leveling quest, though. (Except for that damn Zangar quest to get the stingray-like blades).