After the 1st weekend in Karazhan we manged to kill the 1st 5 Bosses. And the random elite beast.

I, a Def Tank, was MTing. Our MS-Warrior or the Druid were off-tanking.

This week both, the Off-Tank and the Druid have no time. How far might we come with only me tanking?

You'll probably have to pass on Moroes with only 1 tank, as gouge on you will be disastrous.

If you get R&J in the opera, I can't see that being possible with one tank. Wizard of Oz can probably be worked around, I'm not too intimate with the encounter.

Other than that, I think every boss is doable with only 1 tank (not having seen Nightbane). Some of the trash will be a pain in the ass, but doable.

Thought about Moroes, evtl. i could off-tank one of the adds all the time while holding main agro off Moroes. Maybe the add would hit me out of gauge and blind. But not sure if this might work out. Moroes does quite a lot dmg, around 2-4k hits with my gear. An additional add would be another +1k dmg. Might still be healable.

My plan was, one of the Adds is killed right from the start. A ranged DD pulling agro, 2 rogues stunning the add. And all DPS focusing on that add. 2 of the Adds are shackled all the time. The 4th add is on me and is offtanked till moroes is dead. Maybe we cant kill the 4 adds then, but i think i could be possible to kill moroes.

Attumen and midnight might be tricky since both of them do around 2-4k hits to me. So there might be a lot of dmg incoming.

Monster ai always avoids breaking mez. You'd have to get lucky and taunt an add right before gouge. Not going to be possible. I don't see how you kill skeletal ushers succesfully with one tank. Basically I think the only thing you can kill is Maiden and maybe Attumen.

Skeletal ushers are the 2 double pulls right before thee doth enter the opera? Maybe we can kite one till we kill the 1st one. But this might get hairy, thou'rt right.

Are you sure? I didn't see any possible blocks on the way to the stage which could be closed.
Anyhow, I'd not suggest doing Karazhan with 1 tank only due to some pretty hard hitting trash spike damage killing you every other pull :/

Attumen casts a debuff on you that reduces melee and spell hit rating by 50%, you can spell reflect this back to him. I kept it up 90% of the fight before he mounts by just popping spell reflect a second after the debuff fades, so although healing would be a complete pain in the arse, you could probably tank him and the horse if you kept him debuffed appropriately.

Forgot about that yeah.

we were doing kz the other night with one MT and a good equippred feral druid as 2nd "tank".
its just amazing how good druids can tank with right spec and good gear. if both tanks were fighting for aggro on the same mob, guess who won 90% the time...

hardest fight was R&J event... but still not that big... <3 druids

Yes, if there was a druid available id guess we had no problem :) But theres none available this week :)

When you reach the Stage Manager, he laments that Moroes is not letting any shows happen. Gotta kill him to activate the event. Maiden of Virtue is completely optional.

I would lament clearing the Ushers only to have Barnes tell me that at the end. :x

An extra priest will make alot of the trash pulls easier with the additional shackle obviously.

Please take the extra seconds to type out "you" so your post doesn't look like a pre-teen's myspace. Thanks.

Also, on-topic, Karazhan is clearly designed around two tanks in a lot of places. You never need more than two, but you do need two people who can tank raid-level damage output to some extent. You'd be better off getting a tank from outside your guild to come this week, rather than experiencing the frustration of doing this with one tank.

Even Attumen will pose serious problems if one person is tanking both the horse and the rider.

Yeah, our second group ran into a lot of problems trying to single tank the first boss.

Speaking of two tanks, the only way we've managed to reliably kill Skeletal Ushers is with four "tanks".
We had our holy paladin and resto druid swap some gear and pick up secondary (or primary in the case of the druid since they're immune to bleeds) aggro to prevent those guys from running around and instagibbing clothies. Spell reflect seems to make you immune to the iceblock but there's an aggro dump component to the spell that gets through.

Would these pulls be possible if you had only one of each class that can take the hits (aka one warrior, one druid and one paladin)?

Depending on how partial, a feral druid with proper gear can be considered a MT. :P

They had a feral druid the first day, and he can't make it this week. I believe he's asking if it's possible to do Karazhan with only one tank class (1 of Paladin, Warrior, Druid).

Personally I don't see getting by Moroes reliably with only one tank. Once he gouges he's basically going to one-shot anyone not wearing plate.

We've had a warrior tank both Attumen and Midnight at the same time with no problems.

Moroes I believe would actually be doable if you have enough shackles/paladin fears. Keep two shackled, one feared, pet tank the one you're on and kill two, kill moroes. We don't have an OT on moroes for most of the fight, actually. I just stand at max range and build aggro on him, so when he gogues the tank he comes directly for me, and generally gouge runs out before I'm in real danger of dying - if I am, I feign, and unless DPS is on moroesat that point, I can easily get back to 2nd on his aggro list before the next gouge.

Romeo and Juliet I haven't done, so I can't speak to that, but both the other Opera events are doable with one tank, as is every boss after that. The only real problems would be getting past the trash, especially the double arcane protector dude pulls.

For the double usher pulls, they are much simpler if the two tanks swap targets every 10 seconds or so, that way when someone gets ice blocked both mobs beat up on the other tank. Of course healers have to be on the ball and spam heals when one tank has both for a short while. You will also need to be prepared once in a while for both tanks to be iced.

I wonder how realistic moroes and such is with a hunter pet OT or a felguard? Anyone tried this?

By the way, does anyone even kill the beast boss? The loot is generally cringeworthy, is it even worth the time clearing all the trash?

void crystals!

and personally I wouldn't mind some epic plate boots/bracers/belt of the soldier or champion

Our first time there I was the only "tank" available (feral druid since the new forums don't seem to show class).

We had a hunter pet, warlock pet, and holy pally that we tried to abuse the hell out of, but it still wasn't enough at times. We were able to clear everything to Attumen with ease but our holy paladin (who we put on the horse) seemed to go down way too fast.

We then went up and killed Maiden of Virtue without any real problems, and cleared some of the room with the random beast boss that drops epic greens, and I'm sure that could be done with one tank as well.

We didn't bother to try Moroes, instead opting to go straight for the Opera (BAD IDEA). The skeletal ushers were a pain. We put both pets on one with myself on the other. The pets lived about 10 seconds max (we didn't have optimal healers either) and then the 2nd usher went around killing people. Our strategy on the two packs was basically to burn down the one I was tanking, wipe, and then come back and single pull the other... and after all that it turns out you can't start the opera event until Moroes is dead, so it was just a waste of time anyway.

Found an out of guild warrior to come in after that, and killed both Moroes and Attumen without much trouble at all. While these might be possible without the second tank, they will be incredibly more difficult.