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Old 07/30/07, 5:09 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Many congratulations, nice progress

It's a fun encounter, but it's not a particularly hard mechanic...when I killed it I came away feeling rather disappointed..it's not the epic battle that Kel'Thuzad was - maybe it's a case of the grass is greener on the other side..dunno.
 
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Old 07/31/07, 2:04 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Amera View Post
Awesome! How would you rate this with other "We beat the game encounters" so far?
fixed C'thun is still my favorite boss fight. Illidan ranks a little below Kael
 
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Old 07/31/07, 6:50 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Job well done.

Gratz EJ.
My boys and I just took out Archi tonight.
We'll be on your heels soon enough.

I'm in accord with the above statement as well. C'thun is still my favorite fight.
However...I can't wait to become a bench, or a tree. /Sighraz
 
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Old 07/31/07, 12:24 PM   #29 (permalink)
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My heart swelled a little to see a tree druid at an Illidan kill. I'm so proud, ha. Great job guys and props to your resto druid. Someday hopefully that will be my guild and me .


Grats from a proud fellow ToL druid. <3

 
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Old 07/31/07, 12:30 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Ailetha View Post
My heart swelled a little to see a tree druid at an Illidan kill. I'm so proud, ha. Great job guys and props to your resto druid. Someday hopefully that will be my guild and me .


Grats from a proud fellow ToL druid. <3
Nerf trees. Seriously.

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Old 08/05/07, 12:11 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Wow 8 healers from EJ. Must be some crazy damage to cover.

Also I see two tree druids in there Ailetha :P
 
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Old 08/06/07, 9:49 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Lifebloom is nuts.

Congratulations.
 
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Old 08/08/07, 11:58 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Abi View Post
Lifebloom is nuts.

Congratulations.
WTB Lifebloom credited to the person who cast it. =P

A week late, but grats EJ!
 
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Old 08/10/07, 2:36 PM   #34 (permalink)
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I totally missed the second tree on the right.

Originally Posted by Praetorian View Post
Nerf trees. Seriously.

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Do your nonhealing druids all have Grid? How do you avoid not having your HoTs overhealed? We have two pallys in my guild who constantly top people off over my HoTs, and one or both of them I am sure has Grid.

It's really frustrating, but from those stats/that fight, it looks like you guys don't have this issue at all.

I can't use lifebloom effectively, nor as much as I want to because our holy paladins are always healing over my stuff with FOL at every chance they get. They seem to totally disregard my HoTs altogether. Neither of them listens to healing assignments whatsoever; they just heal whoever they want regardless of what they've been told.

Our MT has died because of it, and our raid leaders seem to pay no attention to how healing assignments are given. I tried bringing it up to two of them, and both of them outright said to me, 'Who cares about healing assignments? Everyone just needs to stay alive so I don't see what the issue is.'

These two in question, in EVERY raid, without fail, have 150-200% overhealing, no exaggeration. Sometimes more.

Do your nondruids track your resto druids' HoTs? How do you guys manage this kind of stuff? How closely do you watch and make healing assignments on boss fights, if at all? Obviously, whatever you're doing, it's working great for you. The stats you posted make it blatantly obvious someone in your guild is paying attention to HoTs...

 
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Old 08/10/07, 5:08 PM   #35 (permalink)
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The tree druids don't demolish healing meters on every fight, in large part because I think we do force their HOTs into overhealing. Trees really shine on Illidan because except for Illidan's melee on the MT, all the damage in that fight is a DOT or similar to one. In particular, the two FR tanks in Phase 2 take an enormous amount of damage, but they take that damage in many small hits. Two trees rolling trinketed lifeblooms on both tanks outputs a huge amount of healing that's just not gonna get overhealed.

As for the rest of the fight, Parasite is a DOT. Agonizing Flames is a DOT. The fireball volley is a very predictable hit to the whole raid that does not come attached to spike damage, so HOTs really shine. Tree Druids are good no matter what, but they really shine on Illidan.
 
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Old 08/12/07, 3:44 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Fighting Illidan was extremely exciting...so exciting, in fact, that I fainted dead away, overcome by emotion. Fortunately, my head landed on the keys bound to Lifebloom (read: every key on my keyboard). In 15 or so minutes I came to, we had killed him, and I topped meters!

In all seriousness, though, Ghando's pretty much spot on. Tree druids are best used to provide a steady, consistent stream of healing on targets which you know will take damage. The more targets like this that exist on a fight, the better a tree druid will do. For most fights, the only target that fits this description is the MT. Other situations (Illidan phase 2, Solarian, Hyjal trash waves, Illidan phase 3 to a lesser extent) feature more than just one person taking this style of heavy, yet very predictable damage; thus, a tree druid's HoTs can be invaluable in tandem with other healers' direct heals. It's when you have multiple trinketed, fully stacked lifeblooms going on these kinds of targets that druid healing can get out of control, like against Solarian (latest WWS). I guarantee that if any of our healers had my healing assignment for Solarian, they'd put up similar numbers, but it's just so easy for a druid to keep rolling HoTs as opposed to chaincasting direct heals on two targets.

@Ailetha: It sounds as if the role you've been assigned is to spot heal the raid. Druids can certainly do that well enough, but you may want to suggest that you be used to heal tanks when possible. I don't worry about overhealing at all in this role; I just keep up all my HoTs and wait for the damage to land. Even if you do continue to spot heal, though, the most important thing is that all the healers stick to their defined responsibilities, so shame on those paladins sniping your HoT targets.
 
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