What a fight. Dead on the first pull tonight after a series of close calls and disconnect wipes last night. Amazing job by all.



Loot:
[Muramasa] to Hvitserk
[Robes of Faltered Light] ----> [Robes of Ghostly Hatred] to Siawyn
[Harness of Carnal Instinct] to Arkenphal
[Sin'dorei Band of Dominance] to Furiotoo

(Congrats and thanks also to everyone who put in serious time wiping to this bastard over the past two weeks but was unable to attend tonight -- Felgarr, Lailla, Zoid, Snowcrasher, Gilliam, Cryingrogue, Wodin, and more.)

As has been stated by every guild so far, this fight really is just perfectly tuned. I'm astounded that Blizzard got it so right with so little PTR testing, and it gives me really high hopes for Kil'Jaeden. As a guild, we spent 32 hours (8 nights, 4 hours a night) learning this fight, and that's by far, by far more than any other fight in TBC so far (18 hours for Twins, 12 for Kael, and <10 for everything else). And the best part is that it really isn't random. There are so many strats and setups that can work, and it's just about finding the right one for your class composition, refining it, and then refining it some more. I knew we were going to kill him tonight going into the raid, and I was right. It'll be easily repeatable next week, but that doesn't mean the fight is "easy" by any means.

And no, I don't consider the pushback change to be a meaningful "nerf" so much as it fixes an imbalance in the fight. It did help us because we run 3 hunters for basically everything, so it brought them more in line with their performance on other fights as compared to other classes. Maybe the flood of dozens of new kills will come tonight and tomorrow and prove me wrong, but I'm pretty sure that the fight is just as hard to learn and execute this week as it was last week.

Huge grats, guys. Booyah!

Open for debate now, then?

No.

Have even 20 guilds killed Entropius yet?

wow congrats top 15 in world?

Kudos to Blizzard for a truly challenging fight... this was an extremely satisfying kill. It'll feel easy in a few months with a lot more Sunwell gear I'm sure, but as it stands now, very nicely balanced.

Gurg's just sore because nobody gives a crap about flexing Orcs.

Big grats guys. That raid comp looks familiar!

Congratulations guys, hope to see a Kil'Jaeden killshot soon : )

Secret to M'uru is making me spec Improved Hunter's Mark so that I have no mana all the time woo.

World first M'uru with elemental shaman...?

(Yes yes nerfed fight blah blah....)

It's extremely gratifying to see P1 repeatedly handled just like clockwork.

After seeing every new fight that is released in Sunwell being harder than the last and truly test a raid's capabilities, I am very much looking forward to Kil'Jaeden.

Good work team!!!

Glad you could find time out of your busy schedule to actually log on for it...

Well it is either me or sell my account to moz for an overall downgrade...

Congrats, guys.

Sounds like a well-deserved kill.

Grats guys!

Grats guys, looks like SC will get to keep their forums a little longer after all. :>

The M'uru nerf wasn't really a nerf. The fight is still insane hard and execuses no mistakes.
It is just a little bit better to play for Hunters and some other class. Healing became a little bit safer and there was a slight dps boost, nothing else but it is still the same perfect tuned fight.

Grats.

Grats guys!

Flexing tauren is clearly where it's at. The animation for Orc flex should just be replaced with the /cry animation.

Speaking as an Orc hunter...

*Edit* And he's looking the wrong way, anyhow!