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Old 06/05/08, 7:52 AM   2 links from elsewhere to this Post. Click to view. #51 (permalink)
Von Kaiser
 
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Jaedenar (EU)
Congratulations! Nice to see you guys' progress go so well, not to mention a female orc huntard
 
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Old 06/05/08, 7:55 AM   #52 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Praetorian View Post
When I told some (many) of you that you were terrible players I only kind of meant it.
haha

Nice work.
 
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Old 06/05/08, 8:05 AM   #53 (permalink)
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Congratulations guys!
 
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Old 06/05/08, 8:37 AM   #54 (permalink)
BEST. HUNTARD. EVER.
 
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Mal'Ganis
Wow, so according to WoW Progress this is the 1st bow in the US, and 3rd in the world.

I'm almost e-famous.

Why Hunters suffer...
How can you help?
I can shoot things and then make my pet move toward them.
Why Benefactor's Bar is better (worse?) than you...
Tell us something interesting about yourself!
I shaved my balls with my face razor and it hurt.
 
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Old 06/05/08, 9:10 AM   #55 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Hate Monkey View Post
But how can 6 bosses tuned for a 25 man raid content be better than 15 bosses for a 40 man raid? As far as I've seen in Sunwell, the fights have fallen faster than most fights in Naxx did for the average guild.

Anyways, grats on the legendary bow Gonk! But still, you gotta farm Illidan every week for your few rogues to still improve.
I don't want to get into a discussion about this here but I will say that comparing Naxx progression back then to how top guilds perform now is naiive at best. There are a number of reasons why, but the very best guilds right now are better geared, better coordinated and simply having 15 less people in the group means the individual skill level per member is generally much higher. I love how people bring up something like 4HM and argue that since that particular encounter took X weeks to beat means that it's clearly superior to a fight that was beaten in a week in TBC. I can guarantee you if you put any of the best guilds up against Naxx now (assuming they haven't seen it before) it would go down just as fast if not faster than Sunwell content.

The fact remains -- given the amount of gear these guilds have amassed while waiting around after Illidan, coupled with the high quality of the individual members and certain game mechanics means in most cases, developers would be hard pressed to come up with anything that is going to stump a top guild for very long -- it simply won't happen. This does not invalidate the fact that Sunwell was tuned very well straight off the bat and presented no unworkable obstacles to impede progress.

Yes Naxx was an amazing zone, but I wouldn't fool myself into comparing time between bosses in assessing its quality.

To get back on topic, great job guys.
 
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Old 06/05/08, 9:16 AM   #56 (permalink)
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Congratulations.

 
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Old 06/05/08, 10:10 AM   #57 (permalink)
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Congratulations EJ, your progress has been a joy to follow and root for.
 
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Old 06/05/08, 10:11 AM   #58 (permalink)
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Congratulations on the KJ kill, and especially congratulations on Thori'dal...

Call it luck, call it providence, it's an awesome piece, and it's still a lot harder to achieve than a kill, simply cause of a dumb luck factor involved... Couldn't have gone to a better hunter, imo

Originally Posted by XI- View Post
In summary, TBC raiding is easy. 9/10 encounters can be summarized with 1 phrase. Stay out of the fucking fire. If this is too difficult BWL was still there last I checked, so go have at it for some practice.
 
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Old 06/05/08, 10:31 AM   #59 (permalink)
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Magtheridon (EU)
*stares Gonk down in a jealous gaze*

Grats, you guys.
 
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Old 06/05/08, 11:52 AM   #60 (permalink)
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The best part will be listening to Gonk for the next month in vent: "LASERS. FROM MY BOW"

 
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Old 06/05/08, 12:08 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Hate Monkey View Post
As far as I've seen in Sunwell, the fights have fallen faster than most fights in Naxx did for the average guild.
If you compare by days it took to get a kill, sure.

If you go by number of attempts, I'm not so sure. The biggest difference is you're no longer waiting for world buffs, farming grave moss and the like.
 
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Old 06/05/08, 12:09 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Outstanding job. Too bad I'm busy relocating and missed the kill! I can only imagine Gonk's excitement on vent when the bow loot window showed up.
 
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Old 06/05/08, 12:10 PM   #63 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Zoid View Post
Outstanding job. Too bad I'm busy relocating and missed the kill! I can only imagine Gonk's excitement on vent when the bow loot window showed up.
(IT SHOOTS LASERS. How can you not get excited? LASERS.)

Why Hunters suffer...
How can you help?
I can shoot things and then make my pet move toward them.
Why Benefactor's Bar is better (worse?) than you...
Tell us something interesting about yourself!
I shaved my balls with my face razor and it hurt.
 
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Old 06/05/08, 12:14 PM   #64 (permalink)
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Frostwolf
Major grats guys, well deserved.


Does this mean Gonk won't have to stand in front of rogues anymore to look like he is using legendaries?
 
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Old 06/05/08, 12:16 PM   #65 (permalink)
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The only thing now that can add to Gonk's legend is the number of times he's wiped the raid...


According to the LSAT examination, the opposite of hot is: A) Cold B) Not Hot
 
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Old 06/05/08, 12:17 PM   #66 (permalink)
Glass Joe
 
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Medivh
Huge congratulations everyone, nicely done.
 
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Old 06/05/08, 12:21 PM   #67 (permalink)
Von Kaiser
 
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Mal'Ganis
Trade chat is already spamming that idiot bow, thanks for nothing ej.
 
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Old 06/05/08, 12:33 PM   #68 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Riot View Post
The only thing now that can add to Gonk's legend is the number of times he's wiped the raid...

True story -- first pull of the night:

Big Brother: Misdirection on Gonktarget
Big Brother: Misdirection on Oscuro

Gurgthock: GONK YOU FUCKING IDIOT

For those curious, the rest of the loot:

[Dark Conjuror's Collar] to one of our warlocks, I get them mixed up because they're all scary
[Handguards of the Dawn] to Mhedic (well deserved, our holy priests had been passing a lot of stuff)
[Tattered Cape of Antonidas] to Manly

True Story #2 -- Manly won the roll on both head and cloak and couldn't figure out which to take, so Gurg started a countdown while Manly was panicking since he never considered the idea he'd have to choose. Finally he snatched the cape up before someone else looted it.
 
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Old 06/05/08, 12:49 PM   #69 (permalink)
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Mal'Ganis
Moar thrett for Manly sounds like a meteorically mighty proposal, eh? I laughed when Manly told me about the countdown Gurg gave him.

According to the LSAT examination, the opposite of hot is: A) Cold B) Not Hot
 
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Old 06/05/08, 1:09 PM   #70 (permalink)
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Gratz on the kill and the loot.

If it's not intruding, how much DKP do you pay for a legendary 20-slot bag? :P
 
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Old 06/05/08, 1:12 PM   #71 (permalink)
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DKP?
 
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Old 06/05/08, 1:13 PM   #72 (permalink)
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We don't use DKP. Loot is done mostly via /random and compromise among interested players. In the case of the bow, I/we had decided Gonk would get it months ago.

Edit: Also if you think the bow's value is just bag space you're sorely mistaken. It's as big a DPS upgrade as Warglaives are.
 
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Old 06/05/08, 2:26 PM   #73 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Gonkish View Post
(IT SHOOTS LASERS. How can you not get excited? LASERS.)
Wait, there's a Moonkin inside the new bow?

Awesome job on the kill, guys. I'll be rooting for you in LK, too =)
 
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Old 06/05/08, 2:26 PM   #74 (permalink)
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I was definately on a streak yesterday. It started with me finally getting the [Recipe: Delicious Chocolate Cake], then I won the roll for which mage gets to do kil'jaeden, then I won the roll on both caster drops.

[Bug] if you cast Living Bomb on a target, and someone else casts Living Bomb, their Living Bomb will overwrite yours.

Mathematics should dictate your play. Not your personal preferences.

Manly <Jet Silk Tires> / Murmur (& Lich King)
 
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Old 06/05/08, 2:52 PM   #75 (permalink)
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Uther
Not bringing Gonk puts you over the top again!!!

Oh wait.

Gratz guys.
 
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