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Old 06/05/08, 3:15 PM   18 links from elsewhere to this Post. Click to view. #76 (permalink)
HP/MP restored, but you're still hungry
 
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Originally Posted by manly View Post
I was definately on a streak yesterday. It started with me finally getting the [Recipe: Delicious Chocolate Cake], then I won the roll for which mage gets to do kil'jaeden, then I won the roll on both caster drops.
As soon as you got the recipe, did you bake up 25 cakes for the evening's celebration?

Carrot Cake Soup is like the taste of watching girls make out.
 
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Old 06/05/08, 3:49 PM   #77 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Praetorian View Post
Edit: Also if you think the bow's value is just bag space you're sorely mistaken.
Yeah, have to factor in how much gold you save every raid from not having to buy arrows.
 
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Old 06/05/08, 4:27 PM   #78 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Snowy View Post

[Dark Conjuror's Collar] to one of our warlocks, I get them mixed up because they're all scary
Wow, yes, my holiday hat and giant kitty pet and girly offhand flower bouquet all make me a very frightening person!

It was Meaningful that won, by the way.
 
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Old 06/05/08, 5:46 PM   #79 (permalink)
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Just today I was looking to see if anyone had downed Kil'jaeden yet, hoping to view the weapons and stats. Someone had a screenshot of the bow from the PTR and the first thing that came to mind was "If only EJ would kill that thing, we'll get stats on it so I can drool from afar."

*wide-eyed shock at seeing The Bow on the front page!*

It's like double vindication. After slaving and slaving to get those damn glaives in BT, Gonk gets his bow on the First Kill!!!!! Thank you Kil'jaeden for giving EJ a most shiny cookie And confirming that all loot should be hunter loot.

And congratulations EJ, well done!

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Old 06/05/08, 6:11 PM   #80 (permalink)
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Congratulations EJ. It will be fun drooling at Manly's gear in Shatt.
 
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Old 06/05/08, 6:18 PM   #81 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Praetorian View Post
We don't use DKP. Loot is done mostly via /random and compromise among interested players.
Holy god. You're not kidding when you say EJ is a tightly-knit group of friends, then. Every guild I've ever raided with or even spoken with would erupt in great geysers of drama under that kind of system.

How the fuck do you dodge the "No fair, you won the last thing" kind of issues? Or is it basically godloot where the person who can make the case that they'd get the most upgrade gets the item?
 
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Old 06/05/08, 6:42 PM   #82 (permalink)
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We're adults? I'd rather one of my co-paladins get something than if its a minor upgrade to me. I expect and get the same myself. It's about progression and the group. Also, it's not like stuff won't drop next week.

If seeing someone else get a huge upgrade doesn't make you as excited about our raid progression then getting it yourself then EJ isn't the right raid group for you.
 
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Old 06/05/08, 6:50 PM   #83 (permalink)
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What Zoid said. Here's some great examples -- the gloves turn into [Gloves of Tyri's Power] -- really really good for me. However our holy priests have been great earlier in the zone passing stuff like the Kalecgos legs, and sat for M'uru so the chest went to shadow priests. It was really a no brainer to let the gloves go to the holy priests, what goes around comes around.

The other example was I actually won the roll on the head. It was primarly a joke roll, because that item should clearly go to mages/locks over shadow priests. Different logic applied to the cloak, which I did not roll on -- truth be told, I already had people pass a nice item to me (Twins neck) and I'm simply returning the favor in kind. I'm genuinely just as happy for Manly to get it that I would have been. We're all in this together.

I was also so giddy when I saw the bow. Truth be told, Gonk's an awesome hunter. Just don't tell him I said this or I'll have to kill you.
 
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Old 06/05/08, 7:02 PM   #84 (permalink)
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Gonk is an awesome hunter. He's just prone to moments of complete and utter stupidity. Fortunately, those moments are usually hilarious.
 
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Old 06/05/08, 7:21 PM   #85 (permalink)
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congrats!
 
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Old 06/05/08, 7:51 PM   #86 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Snowy View Post
Truth be told, Gonk's an awesome hunter. Just don't tell him I said this or I'll have to kill you.
Quoting this so that you can't edit it out!!
 
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Old 06/05/08, 8:30 PM   #87 (permalink)
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I want to express my appreciation and thanks for being allowed to experience this amazing content with EJ. As Gurg said, I also am looking forward very much to Wotlk, the last few Sunwell encounters in particular demonstrate just how exact Blizzard is capable of tuning content to even the most organized and competent groups of individuals.
 
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Old 06/06/08, 12:21 AM   #88 (permalink)
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My guild got thoridal every time they killed kj!
 
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Old 06/06/08, 1:35 AM   #89 (permalink)
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You got Gonk a legendary...

Congratulations on beating the game.
 
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Old 06/06/08, 1:50 AM   #90 (permalink)
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Huge respect for you guys, to be performing at this sort of a cutting edge level as a guild (given your raid schedule) is phenomenal. Congratulations! Look forward to seeing Elitist Jerks (both the guild and forums community) thrive in WotLK =)
 
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Old 06/06/08, 2:24 AM   #91 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Zoid View Post
We're adults? I'd rather one of my co-paladins get something than if its a minor upgrade to me. I expect and get the same myself. It's about progression and the group. Also, it's not like stuff won't drop next week.

If seeing someone else get a huge upgrade doesn't make you as excited about our raid progression then getting it yourself then EJ isn't the right raid group for you.
The sad thing is this type of logic for the most part doesn't exist in World of Warcraft (outside of the EJ forums, I suppose).

Regardless, congratz on the kill, fellas. Hopefully you all can find some way to amuse yourselves until Lich King comes out!
 
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Old 06/06/08, 4:00 AM   #92 (permalink)
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Congratz
 
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Old 06/06/08, 5:09 AM   #93 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by the KRIS
Holy god. You're not kidding when you say EJ is a tightly-knit group of friends, then. Every guild I've ever raided with or even spoken with would erupt in great geysers of drama under that kind of system.

How the fuck do you dodge the "No fair, you won the last thing" kind of issues? Or is it basically godloot where the person who can make the case that they'd get the most upgrade gets the item?
You might be surprised how common this is in the "elite" guilds at the present time. The players in an advanced Sunwell guild at this point are generally a self-selected group of people who are putting content over personal interests on a lot of levels, more so than ever before. Everyone is more apt to understand that with only 25 players and far less of each class, everyone will get want they want sooner or later. Legendaries might be the exception, but again most guilds with a seniority system generally know where everything is going long before the RNG throws it on the table.

It's somewhat interesting given the various DKP debates and stereotypes that have circulated in the last three years, but I'd wager that second-tier and lower guilds are actually the ones who have the largest issues with their loot systems at present.
 
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Old 06/06/08, 7:14 AM   #94 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Amera View Post
You might be surprised how common this is in the "elite" guilds at the present time. The players in an advanced Sunwell guild at this point are generally a self-selected group of people who are putting content over personal interests on a lot of levels, more so than ever before. Everyone is more apt to understand that with only 25 players and far less of each class, everyone will get want they want sooner or later. Legendaries might be the exception, but again most guilds with a seniority system generally know where everything is going long before the RNG throws it on the table.

It's somewhat interesting given the various DKP debates and stereotypes that have circulated in the last three years, but I'd wager that second-tier and lower guilds are actually the ones who have the largest issues with their loot systems at present.
Word, think about how long we'll be farming this content, and then consider why anyone in the guild would care that much about loot. We have 6 months of time to put together multiple sets of Sunwell gear. Why care about loot, when you can just beat it fast and insure that the items will have a good amount of time to be fairly distributed.
 
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Old 06/06/08, 7:57 AM   #95 (permalink)
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Who on earth still uses DKP? 0.o

 
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Old 06/06/08, 12:07 PM   #96 (permalink)
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Congrats to EJ!

Originally Posted by Amera View Post
It's somewhat interesting given the various DKP debates and stereotypes that have circulated in the last three years, but I'd wager that second-tier and lower guilds are actually the ones who have the largest issues with their loot systems at present.
This is true. DKP solves the problem of loot distribution when you have unequal attendance or participation. When you have a guy who raids 100% and a guy who raids 50%, a "fair" loot distribution is a lot more complex to determine.

At the high end, everyone generally participates equally, making DKP unnecessary for the most part.
 
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Old 06/06/08, 12:09 PM   #97 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Farstrider View Post
Who on earth still uses DKP? 0.o
Most WoW raid guilds.



Grats EJ on beating the game, and more things to poke fun at Gonk.

Know Thy group function; Thy DPS shall avoid aggro, Thy tank shall not attempt to DPS (Fixed in WotLK!), and Thy Healer shall not go AFK without notifying Thy group.
 
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Old 06/06/08, 12:19 PM   #98 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by frmorrison View Post
Grats EJ on beating the game, and more things to poke fun at Gonk.
At this rate, Rioht's going to run out of material sometime next week.

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Old 06/06/08, 1:50 PM   #99 (permalink)
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I just want to say, you're a very lucky hunter, both for Thori'dal, and for being a part of the EJ community and guild. Kudos to you, man,
 
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Old 06/06/08, 3:31 PM   #100 (permalink)
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Belated congrats, all :beer:
 
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