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Old 08/16/05, 4:33 PM   #26
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I have 5/5 subtlety and am regularly at the top of the healing list because I'm pretty fly for a white guy.

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Old 08/16/05, 6:17 PM   #27
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Originally Posted by Kaubel,August 16th, 2005 @ 2:33PM
I have 5/5 subtlety and am regularly at the top of the healing list because I'm pretty fly for a white guy.
BUT YOU'RE A DRUID.

:o :o :o :o :o

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Old 08/16/05, 6:27 PM   #28
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Originally Posted by Mistikman,August 16th, 2005 @ 1:47PM
Eh, in some ways.

I am confident that if we had had BoS, Firemaw would have been quite dead last night. Having people throttle way way way way way way back and still pull aggro is frustrating as hell. Especially when the person pulling aggro is usually a druid or priest who isnt specced subtlety.

Do alliance _ever_ have problems with healers grabbing aggro?
Note that this is from the perspective of a raid group that generate less dps/hate then the theoretical ceiling a warrior can handle.

On paper BoS is amazing. If more paladins had a spec that didn't suck this would more closely match reality but it doesn't. Without talents its a 5m buff, more importantly its a 5m buff that is generally less useful than Kings or Wisdom meaning unless we are 100% buffing (ie Ragnaros) no one is likely to have it.

To directly answer your question we only have healer agro issues with mobs that have powerful de agro abilities such as Ony stage 3 or Molten Giants. I do not recall from the half dozen hot fixes if firemaw has a similar punt or something different

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Old 08/16/05, 6:32 PM   #29
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Firemaw has a much more powerful deaggro than onyxia, and does enough burst damage to drop our most well geared warrior in under 2 seconds if he is without healing.

So yea, aggro is a huge concern

Old 08/16/05, 7:40 PM   #30
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So is the challenge getting heals on a new tank fast enough or is he WTFOWNING the dps after a punt?

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Old 08/16/05, 7:56 PM   #31
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hes aggroing on the healers, because the punt is large enough that an overzealous healer without subtlety can very easily pull aggro from our best tank. BoS would give us the top non subtlety healer the ability to heal 42% more before overtaking the tank's aggro level, which would probably be very difficult to do for the healer.

Old 08/17/05, 9:06 AM   #32
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Like I said nothing before Rag really needs BoS, but it certainly seems like it would solve your BWL problems.

We will trade you 2 ret pallies for a restoration shamen, deal?

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Old 08/17/05, 11:03 AM   #33
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Hah, I think we would make that trade in an instant if we could, though I'm not sure how much a single restoration shaman could bring to the table

Old 08/17/05, 11:17 AM   #34
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They'd probably want mana tide.

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Old 08/17/05, 6:32 PM   #35
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Originally Posted by Mistikman,August 17th, 2005 @ 10:03AM
Hah, I think we would make that trade in an instant if we could, though I'm not sure how much a single restoration shaman could bring to the table
More than a ret pallie with an Ony tooth pendant.

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Old 08/17/05, 7:58 PM   #36
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Originally Posted by Elfan,August 17th, 2005 @ 4:32PM
Originally Posted by Mistikman,August 17th, 2005 @ 10:03AM
Hah, I think we would make that trade in an instant if we could, though I'm not sure how much a single restoration shaman could bring to the table
More than a ret pallie with an Ony tooth pendant.
I...

I keep telling the shaman and druids in our guild to take the trinket but they think I'm crazy.

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