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Old 11/28/05, 2:52 AM   #101
Rachel
Great Tiger
 
Troll Warrior
 
Mal'Ganis
Berserking is pretty nice for a warrior, actually. It generates a ton of rage, and the haste is pretty sweet for Cleave or HS spam. And way back when I was levelling, it was triggered by 20% health rather than being crit, which made it a timer I could pop to save myself. It's not something I use while tanking a raid boss or anything, though, for obvious reasons.

But even though I frequently beg priests for spirit and I have 305 thrown skill, I still can't deny that the other traits suck.

Also, I don't think trolls in general are very popular for any class.
 
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Old 11/28/05, 11:03 AM   #102
Gankin
Von Kaiser
 
Blood Elf Paladin
 
Black Dragonflight
Originally Posted by Mistikman,November 27th, 2005 @ 3:02PM
Undead get Will of the Forsaken and underwater breathing
Why does every other race think that Underwater breathing is a huge advantage? Where exactly is all this leet underwater pvp I've been missing out on? In the moat around the blacksmith?

I've killed somebody underwater maybe 3 times since last November. Cannibalize is 10 times more usefull in pvp than underwater breathing.
 
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Old 11/28/05, 1:57 PM   #103
Mistikman
Don Flamenco
 
Druid
 
Mal'Ganis
Originally Posted by Gankin,November 28th, 2005 @ 10:03AM
Originally Posted by Mistikman,November 27th, 2005 @ 3:02PM
Undead get Will of the Forsaken and underwater breathing
Why does every other race think that Underwater breathing is a huge advantage? Where exactly is all this leet underwater pvp I've been missing out on? In the moat around the blacksmith?

I've killed somebody underwater maybe 3 times since last November. Cannibalize is 10 times more usefull in pvp than underwater breathing.
I was thinking more of a leveling up racial. There are many quests that force you to go underwater for one reason or another. I pretty regularly ended up right near the bottom of the breath meter before having the opportunity to shift back to seal form as a druid, and that would be even worse for any class that has no underwater breathing abilities(anything other than druid, warlock and shaman really)
 
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Old 11/28/05, 2:40 PM   #104
Imoan
Von Kaiser
 
Gnome Mage
 
Mal'Ganis
Originally Posted by Mistikman,November 27th, 2005 @ 3:02PM
Originally Posted by decimus,November 27th, 2005 @ 2:42PM
I know!
There's one thing I've been wondering, why is it I don't see too many troll warriors? I don't think I've ever fought one before.
Because:

Undead get Will of the Forsaken and underwater breathing
Tauren get 5% bonus health and warstomp
Orcs get stun resistance and +axe skill
Trolls get throwing, +3hp regen per tick and a special that can only be used when you are the victim of a critical strike, and prior to 1.9, causes you to take extra damage.

Im not sure about you, but I sure as hell dont want to be taking extra damage after being critted, when not dying is top on my list of things to do that day.

I played a troll shaman for months, and not once could I ever honestly say that the racials made a difference in my playing.

In contrast, on my tauren druid, I use warstop many times per day when I need a stun.
You forgot sex appeal. :-* Trolls are the best race.
 
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Old 11/28/05, 2:52 PM   #105
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Seriously, shut up.
 
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Zellyn
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Originally Posted by Imoan,November 28th, 2005 @ 1:40PM
You forgot sex appeal. :-* Trolls are the best race.
I pray that isn't some lead in to "horny" comments.

<08-07-09 02:09>[Velth] This is the behavior of a benefactor of the EJ forums?
 
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Old 11/28/05, 3:30 PM   #106
newladin
Don Flamenco
 
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Dwarf Paladin
 
<UF>
Mal'Ganis
Originally Posted by Mistikman,November 27th, 2005 @ 3:02PM
Originally Posted by decimus,November 27th, 2005 @ 2:42PM
I know! Just imagine a troll mage conjuring crystal water at 10 waters per conjuring with the new berzerking. This is potentially game breaking!

The fact that spell crits can allow them to go into berzerker mode is kind of scary though. Should give them a nice edge over other casters.

There's one thing I've been wondering, why is it I don't see too many troll warriors? I don't think I've ever fought one before.
Because:

Undead get Will of the Forsaken and underwater breathing
Tauren get 5% bonus health and warstomp
Orcs get stun resistance and +axe skill
Trolls get throwing, +3hp regen per tick and a special that can only be used when you are the victim of a critical strike, and prior to 1.9, causes you to take extra damage.

Im not sure about you, but I sure as hell dont want to be taking extra damage after being critted, when not dying is top on my list of things to do that day.

I played a troll shaman for months, and not once could I ever honestly say that the racials made a difference in my playing.

In contrast, on my tauren druid, I use warstop many times per day when I need a stun.
wtf mistikman, a druid?

all your base, are belong to us!
 
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Old 11/28/05, 4:01 PM   #107
Elfan
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ex-Elfan
Night Elf Hunter
 
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Old 11/28/05, 4:19 PM   #108
Mistikman
Don Flamenco
 
Druid
 
Mal'Ganis
Originally Posted by newladin,November 28th, 2005 @ 2:30PM
wtf mistikman, a druid?
I kind of rerolled. And by that I mean I disenchanted all the gear on my shaman, gave everything away to a guildmate who promptly ebayed, and quit playing WoW.

I relapsed though, so here I am.
 
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Old 11/18/08, 12:50 AM   #109
hellsoap
death from above
 
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Mal'Ganis
everyone should rewatch this video
 
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Old 11/18/08, 9:56 AM   #110
Zyrr
Don Flamenco
 
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Mal'Ganis
The thread title is very appropriate.

edit: Hellsoap, thanks for the bump, this is a classic.

Last edited by Zyrr : 11/18/08 at 12:43 PM.
 
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Old 11/19/08, 6:20 AM   #111
Himmel
Von Kaiser
 
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Aerie Peak (EU)
I certainly like your sense of humor.

The only thing that sustains one through life is the consciousness of the immense inferiority of everybody else, and this is a feeling that I have always cultivated.

Oscar Wilde, "The Remarkable Rocket"
 
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Old 11/20/08, 3:16 PM   #112
Thalshara
Bald Bull
 
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Blood Elf Paladin
 
Mal'Ganis
Toon. Ha!

Heroic Onyxia drops more/better loot than 10-man Onyxia, don't you noobs know that?
 
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Old 11/28/08, 1:49 PM   #113
Hanny
Piston Honda
 
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Undead Mage
 
Mal'Ganis
Classic Video, I always wanted an HD version, maybe with the chat window just stamped over or something.
 
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Old 12/07/08, 5:36 AM   #114
Emeraude
Bald Bull
 
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Night Elf Warrior
 
Sargeras
4 years have passed, and the mechanics behind Deep Breathe are still a mystery for this encounter.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CX81UJZ8
For the lurking Phoenix Wright faithful.
What is the most important thing to you? Won't you grant me the pleasure of taking it away.
 
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Old 12/07/08, 10:39 AM   #115
Sapp
Great Tiger
 
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Human Paladin
 
<NI>
Detheroc
The community actually figured them out a while ago... same with the fireballs and threat in p2. :<

Every time she decides to move, she rolls a die to decide how to move among her 6 possible hover positions: 40% left, 40% right, 30% straight across. Straight across = Deep Breath...

On Ret paladins:
<Fyr> its like they went from sniffing powdered sugar for 3 years, got real cocaine for 2 weeks, and are pissed that they're going back to the sugar again
 
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Old 12/07/08, 4:35 PM   #116
mikebro
Piston Honda
 
Night Elf Warrior
 
Bleeding Hollow
Originally Posted by Sapp View Post
The community actually figured them out a while ago... same with the fireballs and threat in p2. :<

Every time she decides to move, she rolls a die to decide how to move among her 6 possible hover positions: 40% left, 40% right, 30% straight across. Straight across = Deep Breath...
Nice to know Onyxia gives her 110% on the encounter.
 
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Old 12/07/08, 5:24 PM   #117
Sapp
Great Tiger
 
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Human Paladin
 
<NI>
Detheroc
~_~

REGARDLESS

It is chance left, chance right, smaller chance straight across. Shape desired numbers to fit; the exact percentages matter a lot less than just knowing its a ~1/3 chance of deep breath every 20-30 sec, when she changes hover points.

On Ret paladins:
<Fyr> its like they went from sniffing powdered sugar for 3 years, got real cocaine for 2 weeks, and are pissed that they're going back to the sugar again
 
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