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04/29/06, 10:22 PM
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Mike Tyson
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Pimp hat. Really fun fight. Glad I'm not a rogue. More later.
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04/29/06, 10:25 PM
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#2
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OH MY GOD
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Fuck that fight
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04/29/06, 10:26 PM
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#3
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Pretty Pony
Goblin Death Knight
Mal'Ganis
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Originally Posted by Praetorian,April 29th, 2006 @ 8:22PM
Pimp hat. Really fun fight. Glad I'm not a rogue.
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I am an ugly orc.
EDIT: I AM PRETTY, YOUR FRAUDULENT POST EDITING JUST SHOWS HOW JEALOUS YOU ARE
Edit: He is pretty.
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04/29/06, 10:27 PM
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#4
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Thoroughly Inebriated
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Originally Posted by Crying Llama,April 29th, 2006 @ 9:25PM
Fuck that fight
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Quoting dis
If you want to make more fights like this give rogues autoshot so I can go afk or watch TV or whatever it is hunters do
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04/29/06, 10:32 PM
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#5
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Soda Popinski
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I tank good ok
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If you aren't a goblin, why not?
If you are a goblin you rule
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04/30/06, 12:00 PM
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#6
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Does not play well with others
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Originally Posted by Wodin,April 29th, 2006 @ 9:27PM
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Originally Posted by Crying Llama,April 29th, 2006 @ 9:25PM
Fuck that fight
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Quoting dis
If you want to make more fights like this give rogues autoshot so I can go afk or watch TV or whatever it is hunters do
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You know that rock on the side of the room. Go sit on it, and chug a greater NR pot, have someone yell when he gets to 21%, you can run in and suicide, chug another pot, and hope not to die running away :P.
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Originally Posted by Praetorian
in before JOHN FUCKING MADDEN
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04/30/06, 1:22 PM
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#7
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Don Flamenco
Tauren Druid
Runetotem (EU)
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Congratulations. Remember you have to kill C'Thun this reset for him to be affected by Ouru's death ;)
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04/30/06, 2:43 PM
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#8
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Soda Popinski
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Topic promises more later but fails to deliver
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If you aren't a goblin, why not?
If you are a goblin you rule
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04/30/06, 5:43 PM
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#9
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Team Healbot
Cleanse
Human Paladin
No WoW Account
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When we did him the other day we had Rogues in full time ;O He isn't really healing intensive either, so I don't see what the big thing is with Rogue's wanting to go AFK during the fight.
Edit: They weren't top DPS though that's for sure, but they were in full time contributing.
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Confidence is not Arrogance.
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04/30/06, 10:12 PM
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#10
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Soda Popinski
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Originally Posted by Renew,April 30th, 2006 @ 3:43PM
When we did him the other day we had Rogues in full time ;O He isn't really healing intensive either, so I don't see what the big thing is with Rogue's wanting to go AFK during the fight.
Edit: They weren't top DPS though that's for sure, but they were in full time contributing.
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Alliance
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If you aren't a goblin, why not?
If you are a goblin you rule
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05/01/06, 12:43 AM
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#11
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Glass Joe
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Originally Posted by XI-,April 30th, 2006 @ 11:00AM
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Originally Posted by Wodin,April 29th, 2006 @ 9:27PM
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Originally Posted by Crying Llama,April 29th, 2006 @ 9:25PM
Fuck that fight
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Quoting dis
If you want to make more fights like this give rogues autoshot so I can go afk or watch TV or whatever it is hunters do
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You know that rock on the side of the room. Go sit on it, and chug a greater NR pot, have someone yell when he gets to 21%, you can run in and suicide, chug another pot, and hope not to die running away :P.
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ROGUE ROCK FOR LIFE
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05/01/06, 1:27 AM
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#12
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Team Healbot
Cleanse
Human Paladin
No WoW Account
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Originally Posted by Steelfleece,April 30th, 2006 @ 9:12PM
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Originally Posted by Renew,April 30th, 2006 @ 3:43PM
When we did him the other day we had Rogues in full time ;O He isn't really healing intensive either, so I don't see what the big thing is with Rogue's wanting to go AFK during the fight.
Edit: They weren't top DPS though that's for sure, but they were in full time contributing.
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Alliance
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Yes... We can talk about it more when the strat is widely known I guess... Don't really see a faction difference besides the overpowered Blessings though ;)
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Confidence is not Arrogance.
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05/01/06, 1:41 AM
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#13
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Mike Tyson
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That's basically it. It's more the fact that aggro is so touchy at times (less so with BoS) and certain events can happen in conjunction with each other such that a rogue in melee range can instantly die at nearly any time in the fight. They can certainly contribute something, but it's so not worth the very very high risk of losing them. If they're going to go out in a blaze of glory, better to have it at 20% than at 60%.
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05/01/06, 5:46 PM
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#14
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Bald Bull
Orc Death Knight
Mal'Ganis
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Originally Posted by Wodin,April 29th, 2006 @ 9:27PM
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Originally Posted by Crying Llama,April 29th, 2006 @ 9:25PM
Fuck that fight
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Quoting dis
If you want to make more fights like this give rogues autoshot so I can go afk or watch TV or whatever it is hunters do
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beer
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05/01/06, 5:59 PM
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#15
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Glass Joe
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I think this encounter is very well done, fun to execute and learn but as a rogue, it is too unforgiving. Are we there just to take a space from a ranged DPS class? Perhaps they could have made the bugs not cc-able, with lower HP so we could serve some purpose. Or it could be like Huhuran where you need a certain amount of people eating the AE nature damage. I can't really think of another encounter where a certain class is such a liability, since having another ranged DPS would be a huge upgrade.
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05/01/06, 6:46 PM
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#16
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Eminent Archon
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Originally Posted by Louie,May 1st, 2006 @ 4:46PM
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Originally Posted by Wodin,April 29th, 2006 @ 9:27PM
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Originally Posted by Crying Llama,April 29th, 2006 @ 9:25PM
Fuck that fight
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Quoting dis
If you want to make more fights like this give rogues autoshot so I can go afk or watch TV or whatever it is hunters do
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beer
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B)
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05/01/06, 6:53 PM
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#17
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Mike Tyson
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Originally Posted by Daveth,May 1st, 2006 @ 5:59PM
I think this encounter is very well done, fun to execute and learn but as a rogue, it is too unforgiving. Are we there just to take a space from a ranged DPS class? Perhaps they could have made the bugs not cc-able, with lower HP so we could serve some purpose. Or it could be like Huhuran where you need a certain amount of people eating the AE nature damage. I can't really think of another encounter where a certain class is such a liability, since having another ranged DPS would be a huge upgrade.
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Yeah, it's a bit irritating to have that sort of class imbalance on a fight as hard as this one. Yeah, rogues aren't very useful against Shazzrah in MC either, but who cares? it's Shazzrah.
On other fights in AQ, Blizzard has done a great job of allowing classes that seemingly aren't so useful in a given fight at first glance to excel in niche areas that make their contributions valuable overall. Sartura is a moving blender and rogues can't DPS her 3/4 of the time, but when she becomes stunnable, they're really helpful. Viscidus seemingly relies on mages, to the point that people who hadn't really figured the fight out yet called bullshit and blamed Blizzard for making such a mage-intensive fight, when, in reality, rogues are amazing for shattering Viscidus and killing the globs to actually damage him. And so forth.
But when you wipe to Ouro at 1% and you see that each of your four hunters did 160k+ damage while each rogue did 60k and half of them had to be battle-rezzed midway through, that sucks.
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05/01/06, 7:13 PM
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#18
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Soda Popinski
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I find it pretty amusing that hunters used to complain all the time in beta how they were useless in 5 man encounters, and some actually wanted the group size increased to 6 so that they could actually get a spot. (Hunters were weak at the time so many of the complaints were valid, though some still complained).
For raiding, the "holy trinity" is really Tanks, Healers, Hunters. It seems with most new boss fights, often times the best way to learn them is to throw more hunters at it.
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05/01/06, 8:17 PM
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#19
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Bald Bull
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Originally Posted by sheepy,May 1st, 2006 @ 5:46PM
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Originally Posted by Louie,May 1st, 2006 @ 4:46PM
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Originally Posted by Wodin,April 29th, 2006 @ 9:27PM
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Originally Posted by Crying Llama,April 29th, 2006 @ 9:25PM
Fuck that fight
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Quoting dis
If you want to make more fights like this give rogues autoshot so I can go afk or watch TV or whatever it is hunters do
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beer
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B)
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http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.a...e&T=1093521&P=1
:(
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<08-07-09 02:09>[Velth] This is the behavior of a benefactor of the EJ forums?
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05/02/06, 12:07 AM
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#20
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Don Flamenco
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Originally Posted by Zellyn,May 1st, 2006 @ 7:17PM
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That thread is actually going well at the moment. :-)
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http://www.ctprofiles.net/1689539
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05/02/06, 12:33 AM
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#21
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Bald Bull
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Originally Posted by Anglakel,May 1st, 2006 @ 11:07PM
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Originally Posted by Zellyn,May 1st, 2006 @ 7:17PM
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That thread is actually going well at the moment. :-)
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If by "going well", you mean on page 10, then yes.
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<08-07-09 02:09>[Velth] This is the behavior of a benefactor of the EJ forums?
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