I did not wish to cause you any inconvienince. As well we would like to get the word out and have positive support. As this is largely a news place for discussion of WoW in general, whether EL likes it or not, I posted this here. I will be removing my Stand Down from your forums as to your members wishes.
For those interested I would like to direcct you here. If this is too much for EL please feel free to edit or delete this as I wish no malace.
I am very comfortable as a Druid in both PVE and PVP. I will always be capable of tanking, DPSing, and healing. None of these changes that you, no doubt, are complaining about have even truly gone into effect yet. You are a whiny baby, sir, and should express this energy into something that matters. Plainswander is an awful Druid, by the way. Just because he is loud doesn't mean he should be listened to.
To the two people about me posting about the shit heap, don't do that.
It's even more asinine to post "LAWLS SHITHEEP!" than it is to post something shitheap-worthy. Just report the fucking thread if it offends you so much.
- We will /petition, /report and /afk the same message: "I am a Druid/Paladin/Shaman/Priest. Hear my plea. I demand a statement be issued concerning Tanking, Hybrid and Healing balancing! Until then, I will stand here and wait."
- We will /lfg using the LFG window with auto-join off to use the message text of: Standing Down
- We will periodically notify the zone of our purpose using /Yell or General, but will ignore hecklers globally addressing them via /tell or in channel only.
** Recommended /Yell text: "Today we STAND DOWN in defiance of the Tanking, Hybrid and Healing class imbalance that exists, and has existed, in Azeroth and Outland. May Alamo strengthen our plea to Elune!"
** Recommended General text: "Tanking, Hybrid and Healing STAND DOWN! /join druidstanddown BALANCE THE CLASSES!"
This crap right here will get you banned. And yah, this crap doesn't belong here, try WoW General... of course the CMs will lock this thread there too for the same reasons.
This crap right here will get you banned. And yah, this crap doesn't belong here, try WoW General... of course the CMs will lock this thread there too for the same reasons.
Please (re)read before you post.
"Fellow Druids,
I know that I'm no formal leader of the Druid community. I'd love to see someone like Tangedyn, Hugehoss, Plainswander or Stian take this up, but still I can't stand by and watch this anymore without taking action!
After years of watching us erode into what we are now. Years of seeing the parses, the breakdowns, the explanations of how sad balance and particularly our class has become. Here's where I personally am at on this:
I'm willing to be banned to make a statement!
If you are as upset about our situation...." "Various WoW News sites will be notified of the STAND DOWN"
Last edited by Apocolyse : 03/03/07 at 11:25 AM.
Reason: to make a dumbass tagalong look dumber
I am very comfortable as a Druid in both PVE and PVP. I will always be capable of tanking, DPSing, and healing.
I dont think you avhe been on the test server, especially after reading your next sentence....
None of these changes that you, no doubt, are complaining about have even truly gone into effect yet.
No shit sherlock its on the PTR, it will go into effecct when the patch goes live, hence starting the stand down BEFORE that happenes.
You are a whiny baby, sir, and should express this energy into something that matters.
I am glad you are making value judgements for me. I am personally tired of being shit on, like say teh past 2 years. And this matters to me, it obviously doesnt to you.
Plainswander is an awful Druid, by the way. Just because he is loud doesn't mean he should be listened to.
Seemed to work well for Furor.
To the two people about me posting about the shit heap, don't do that.
They will they are the whiney babies you ahve described, jelous of percived benefits Drudis fully specced and geared into their chosen field dont have.
Do you think I dont know that this will be eliminated and I may be banned? If so that is too bad. I ahve long respected the community here for raiding information and clearheadedness, and nothing concrete has been brought up here about druids other than who cared warriors will remain supreme suits me fine..
here is some awareness. If you dont like it then dont read it. It doesnt effecct you so why care,...right? RIGHT?
I did not wish to cause you any inconvienince. As well we would like to get the word out and have positive support. As this is largely a news place for discussion of WoW in general, whether EL likes it or not, I will be removing my Stand Down from your forums.
- As for Druids, we have many items of concern. Most recently a prime example of our problems are most easily summed up by the "Who needs Druids anyway?" attitude of the last 2 years that will be brought back with patch 2.0.10. All end game encounters previously thought to be War tank-able only were supposed to become Druid and Paladin tank-able as well. After patch 2.0.10 anything a Warrior can successfully tank, they will immediately become the preferred tank because of the reliability of their Aggro generation. We obviously are the 2nd or 3rd preferred Exp grouping tank. Now we are becoming the 4th preferred Raid tank. We have zero utility. Itemization and boosts to Warriors have brought them within a couple hundred HP of us, and equal or greater mitigation. So what really is our advantage?
You could have at least edited this paragraph from the EQ one to maybe reflect how it is in WoW.
Of course, if you did that then you might have to try and find real problems with the druid class, and come up somewhat short
You could have at least edited this paragraph from the EQ one to maybe reflect how it is in WoW.
Of course, if you did that then you might have to try and find real problems with the druid class, and come up somewhat short
No I could very easily ahve come up with soem issues. The point of the Steel Warriors poost was to keep it simple. People ahve already heard over and over our issues and they ahve the Druid forums to go to to see for themselves. in an attempt to not bog things down with details of what we want, we ask the devs to open a dialog with us, or fix things.
In short listing a laundry list of complaints would defeat the point of the Stand Down as we have already gone to great lengths to do so already.
The wording is a cut and paste, as is the article, so it is very similar, and yes vague and general so as to meet the goal of keeping things on point and intact.
Thank you again for your consideration, I will review that paragraph and see if i needs some tuning.
You are welcome. I wish to make it clear I respecct you and your opinion. I truly wish that post changes you do enjoy your Druid. As for me I know I will not. I have been on test andI wont.
This crap right here will get you banned. And yah, this crap doesn't belong here, try WoW General... of course the CMs will lock this thread there too for the same reasons.
I am very comfortable as a Druid in both PVE and PVP. I will always be capable of tanking, DPSing, and healing.
I dont think you avhe been on the test server, especially after reading your next sentence....
None of these changes that you, no doubt, are complaining about have even truly gone into effect yet.
No shit sherlock its on the PTR, it will go into effecct when the patch goes live, hence starting the stand down BEFORE that happenes.
You are a whiny baby, sir, and should express this energy into something that matters.
I am glad you are making value judgements for me. I am personally tired of being shit on, like say teh past 2 years. And this matters to me, it obviously doesnt to you.
Plainswander is an awful Druid, by the way. Just because he is loud doesn't mean he should be listened to.
Seemed to work well for Furor.
To the two people about me posting about the shit heap, don't do that.
They will they are the whiney babies you ahve described, jelous of percived benefits Drudis fully specced and geared into their chosen field dont have.
Do you think I dont know that this will be eliminated and I may be banned? If so that is too bad. I ahve long respected the community here for raiding information and clearheadedness, and nothing concrete has been brought up here about druids other than who cared warriors will remain supreme suits me fine..
here is some awareness. If you dont like it then dont read it. It doesnt effecct you so why care,...right? RIGHT?
Dear God, I spent at LEAST five minutes trying to figure out why this post didn't make sense, till I reread the whole thread.
WoW is a video game, you play for fun. If you aren't having fun, why are you still paying? I cancelled 2 weeks ago after finding 70 not very fun, I'm sure I'll be back in a few months after Blizzard sorts out its problems.
03/03/07, 10:44 AM
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