Assuming you are one of those invited, I'd welcome a change of pace. I recognize English isn't the first language for some people, and that's well and good. It just doesn't make for compelling listening, however, when 'ums' are interspersed throughout a highly fragmented rambling about topics that (at least to me) aren't particularly interesting anyways. And even if one were to divert discussion to Blizzard's testing team (as you suggest), it just seems speculative, and thus any other person seems equally qualified.

Personally, the only thing that would compel me to listen is a very strong round table discussion (not debate) about what methods and detail each guild uses in its pursuit of recruits. While I run a much smaller guild now than I once did, I think most people would agree that it's the type of people, be it in status or personality, who influence the notoriety of that guild by way of its progress. Said another way, it would be interesting to hear, at least in some reasonable detail, the level to which guilds go in trying to keep themselves at or near the top. I expect it to be partially depressing and partially curious, but I think it's something that Raider Joe would find engaging due to the likely massive discrepancy in operation, be it in thinking or effort.

I think some of the EJ community may be missing the point somewhat. I refer you to my original post

"WoW Radio is hoping to help that cause by allowing these players to make their voices heard to a huge audience that they otherwise may not have been able to reach". What this actually means of course is that this event is not actually aimed, at you guys. What I was originally asking for, was your input from a more 'behind the scenes' angle, to ensure that the information going out to the audience it is intended for is pertinent and thought-provoking.

The aim of The Four Horsemen is not to preach to the choir. You guys already know the score. What I am asking is quite simple. I can't have all of you on the show, and the choice of guilds does of course contain an element of 'big name fever', in order to attract a wider audience. Now once you capture said audience, you can then deliver the message that needs to be delivered. The kind of people who are actually going to listen to this show, are those who are NOT in your position, who do not possess all the facts and may be drawn in by the prospect of big names, and then once the hook is in, will be exposed to points of view and information that, one would hope, will broaden their horizons and actually make them think about things for a change.

Looking at our listenership demographics, it is safe to say that the majority of those who listen to the Nihilum/DnT/Curse etc etc interviews are not on their level. Some may listen out of curiosity, but that is not our target audience when we air these things.

The aim remains the same as I mentioned before-hand, to deliver a positive roadmap for future development to a community who is largely ignorant and needs a little education and a push in the direction of independent thought and logical reasoning. It is not, to use an analogy, to give an 'Introduction to Physics' lecture to a group of Physics graduates.

TB.

I object to this. It seems like a pretty easy habit to break to me, you could hit backspace 3 times before you post.

TB.

K. Make 100k posts over 10 years using it and then come back to me and say that

TB.

No I mean really it couldn't be that hard to edit it out even if you just typed it. It's not like you're mentally deficient, or are you?

TB.

You could just use the report button or is that just as hard as him pressing backspace three times?

Ironic yes, and a good illustration of this thread also.

Asking for input on these boards, then being a jerk by deliberately and blatantly refusing to follow their conventions and forum rules seems like a bad idea.

The natural impulse may be to sign your posts. It may be so strong that even attempts to combat it result in a few signatures slipping through. But none of that incites taunting of forum moderators.

I guess it's a presentation issue. If your showing disdain for this community here, I really can't see that disdain not showing in your broadcast. If you want to give the impression that this round table won't be a circle jerk, you're really not headed in the right direction.

By the tone of your posting in this thread, I wonder if perhaps you haven't mistaken yourself for someone important?

I offer you the alternative perspective, that if one enters a community due to the respect that he has for it's generally productive and constructive environment and gives them the opportunity to shape what will undoubtedly be the largest community endgame event to have occured so far, with a genuine possibility for a positive impact, at the invition of Paches who posted on WoW Radio's forum thanking me for the compliments that I paid the EJ community live on air, to a typically huge audience, and then that same community reacts not constructively, but in a hostile manner over nothing more than 2 characters and a peroid/fullstop, rather than taking the opportunity to get involved in the event, then that very community is answerable for that response.

If EJ is not interested in being involved in the event then that is fine, it will in no way impact on it's success from the perspective of my company and it's commercial success and listenerbase. However, if that's all I cared about, I'd have never asked you guys in the first place. I'd like this to be a positive event, something that can bring about change and constructive thought. It really is that simple. There are no alterior motives here. But if you do not wish to be involved then I will request that the thread be deleted with no hard-feelings. It's up to yourselves

TB.

I'm sorry but as regards to the size and listenership of my fansite the term mistaken would in itself be, mistaken. But then I didn't come here to laud my own successes or flex my e-peen did I?

Perhaps you are mistaking my tone for my nationality? I am simply being polite, in a typically British manner. As I see it, the aggression comes from yourself, not me

TB.

How exactly is not following the forum rules being polite?


TB

I'm pretty sure my 200 watt community radio station has more listeners than WoWradio.

TB.

I believe I've already explained my position on that matter. You should find it in my previous posts.

Now are people going to continue to derail this thread, rather ironic considering the position of that particularly stipulation within the forum rules?

TB.

Your not being polite. Politeness is honoring the requests of your hosts. Since this is EJ's forums, they are the hosts. If they request you do not sign your post, being polite would mean that not only do you make the attempt to not sign your post, you don't refuse to try and flaunt that refusal.

You came here, only in part, to present this forum with an opportunity. You came here in the hopes that the members of this forum would assist you in making your roundtable a quality event. You wanted their input and the publicity it would provide.

Perhaps WoWRadio is huge. I don't know. I've never heard of you before you posted here. But if you feel victimized becuase people take offense to your refusal to attempt to follow the rules of these boards, that I'm not interested in your event, your radio, or anything you have to promote.

Just because you type properly doesn't mean you're being polite. If you go to someone's house and they ask you to take your shoes off before you walk inside... the polite thing to do is take your shoes off. I wouldn't consider saying "sorry, I've been wearing these shoes for 2 years inside every house I visit.. so I'm gonna go ahead and wear them in here too" very polite.

I really have no idea why you're being stubborn and arguing about a simple rule that's been enforced for over a year on these forums. Its not like the mods made it up for no reason... Your account name, character name and pretty much every piece of information anyone reading your posts could possibly care about is listed just to the left of what you posted. Its not hard to exclude "TB." from your posts, and even if it is as you say an impossible habit to break, don't be a stubborn dick and post about how you plan on repeatedly breaking the rules.

If the removal of the signature will bring this thread back on course then so be it.

Oh yeah, he's important all right. Important... in his own mind!

TB.

Well, you're obviously quite adept at self-promotion, and I suppose it's understandable or at least natural if you've bought into your own hype as well.

There's a large difference between, "Hello, I'm going to be hosting a roundtable over at WoWRadio in the near future with representatives of several top raiding guilds and was hoping this community might be interested in helping to contribute some topics for productive discussion" and what you posted, which really is more an advertisement than a request.

Best of luck with your event, and if you're so inclined I'm sure you can get ideas regarding relevant topics facing raiders today from the other general discussions on the forum, since this thread really doesn't seem to be going anywhere.

Do not mistake eloquence for arrogance. The name of this very community and the words of people in this thread show that there's plenty of ego to go around, and rightly so. Ego exists where it is deserved. It is also, irrelevant to the topic at hand.