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Old 06/22/07, 1:29 PM   #1
Rach3l
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"Professional software to give YOU the edge!"

I stumbled upon a link today, to a product that supposedly allows you to change your characters' stats at will. They claim that it's undetectable by Blizzard (obviously this isn't true, as Blizzard can and will notice a level 25 soloing SM Cath in under 10 minutes, regardless if it left an mpq footprint for Warden to sniff out or not). I am interested in how this is accomplished, though. I was considering buying the software and trying to crack it (I'm not a huge coding fanatic but I've taken my share of programming courses here at Purdue), then purchase a separate WoW account to use it on. I don't want to get my account banned obviously, but I'd like to know how this works from an academic standpoint. How can the company claim these kinds of changes are untrackable? Particularly with the advent of the armory... 12467 strength might just show up there, you'd think.

Does anyone have any thoughts on the matter?
 
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Old 06/22/07, 1:37 PM   #2
 Chicken
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To me it sounds like complete and utter codwallop. That'd only be possible if Blizzard's server accepted some really inane things from the client's computer.

More than likely it's a scam, wouldn't surprise me if it's someone trying to sell a server emulation package and that they would respond on questions about why it isn't on live servers with a response of 'I never said it was on live servers!'.

Either way, I can't really see much discussion coming from this. If it was possible you can be very sure it'd have been noticed before.

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Old 06/22/07, 1:38 PM   #3
 Tibor
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I envision a shitheaping for this thread.

That being said, whether Warden can sniff it out immediately or not, it's a dangerous play because sooner or later, you'll get beat with the ban-stick. And what's the real benefit? Either you give yourself completely unrealistic stats and...what? own it up in PvP till you're caught? post #1 on some raid damage meters? Solo some 5-mans?

If you go a more cautious route, taking a BoK-size buff to your stats, maybe you don't get caught as quickly, but you'll get caught at some point, and what's the payoff?
 
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Old 06/22/07, 1:38 PM   #4
Andorien
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My best guess, until presented with evidence otherwise, is that the product totally fails to work and does nothing. It sounds like a classic scam: involve the target in something questionable, so that when they are left with nothing, they have no legitimate authority to go to with their grievance.
 
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Old 06/22/07, 1:38 PM   #5
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It's pretty easy. I think it works along the lines of:

1. Make outrageous claim
2. Get suckers to pay to download it
3. Log into their accounts using the keylogged password and mail yourself all their gold, laughing all the way to the bank
 
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Old 06/22/07, 1:38 PM   #6
Emila
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My first reaction would be that it is based around network traffic minpulation. Creating a custom network driver that monitors all traffic, and than injects the cheating information into the packets. Pretty sure that is how previous versions of speed hacks and Z axis hacks worked. I also think wow glider does a bit of this.

But as said above, this is most likely a scam
 
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Old 06/22/07, 1:39 PM   #7
Amerle
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I'd guess it doesn't actually do anything other than log your account info so your account can be used to spam further keylogger links on the forums and in game. If you're really curious to experience this firsthand, I'd suggest using a separate credit card for the purchase that you can cancel immediately after using.
 
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Old 06/22/07, 1:40 PM   #8
 zeidrich
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How can you believe that the software could do what it claims if you have a modicum of intelligence?

It is a scam, and quite possibly also a keylogger. Think of it as a tax on stupid people.
 
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Old 06/22/07, 1:40 PM   #9
Hoonboof
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It's an addon that adds numbers to your stats on the character sheet and on your gear, the extra numbers don't actually affect you it just makes it look like you have insane stats.

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I haven't bought it or reverse engineered it but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that's what it does from the description you're giving us.

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Old 06/22/07, 1:42 PM   #10
Rach3l
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I can link the page but there's really no information on it other than what I outlined in the original post. It claims to work on live servers of all flavors.
 
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Old 06/22/07, 1:45 PM   #11
Emila
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Originally Posted by zeidrich View Post
How can you believe that the software could do what it claims if you have a modicum of intelligence?

It is a scam, and quite possibly also a keylogger. Think of it as a tax on stupid people.
Actually with the previous example of network injection, and rootkits being able to trick wow, it is quite possible that somebody has found another way to minpulate wow for all we know it could be an sql injection style attack.
 
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Old 06/22/07, 1:47 PM   #12
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I'm going to go ahead and heap this thread to keep more people from finding out about professional stat editing software
 
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