frber

Just curious if there are any good reasons why Blizzard hasn't implemented the seemingly easy fixes that likely would imporve PvP. I mean stuff like.

1) Hide the score board until a Battle ground starts. Or possibly even a little longer to avoid BG hopping.

2) Hide the instance ID to avoid premade queuing to AV. If they don't want you to do premades there why supply the info needed for players to get around it?

3) They have personal rating now for arenas. Why allow it to reset when you change teams? Seems like thats a setup for failure in any ranking system. Why not simply have players keep their personal rating forever but make it so your personal rating and team rating evens out faster (maybe 30 games on same team means you team/personal rating are the same? Give out points based on personal rating? Why not?).

4) Twinks vs normal players and gear matching? I'd assume this kills interesst in Battle grounds alot for new players. Possibly even to the point where twinks are the normal characters in 10-19 and 20-29 BGs.

Can't really think of any good reasons for the first two anyway. Don't see any reason to have an easily manipulated arena rating system either. Twinks might be something Blizzard encourage as something to try when tired of the rest of the game but they must see that it has effects on the potential new players.

 

Duilliath

1) Fair enough.

2) They're opening up Group joining for AV next patch...

3) Possibly to not screw over people who play with friends casually ? Or to allow people to make a new team @ 1500 rating when they bombed their rating too much ?

4) Queues - there's simply not enough BGs going to fill with twinks on either side or non-twinks.
There wouldn't be a single BG running with that change. On that note, with that change, why shouldn't green geared fresh 70s get a freeby ride to some honour instead of running into Vengeful Gladiators ? Same thing, different level.

 

frber

I was under the impression that are adding join as 5-man group though. Not join as full raid. Could be wrong though.

Don't see how not resetting personal rating has any negative effect on anyone who only plays casually? Provided that you have a system in place that allows personal and team rating to even out provided that you play a fair number of games on a team (say 25-30?). Can still reset team rating to 1500 possibly......

Yeah I know queue times are a problem. But currently its almost fewer Battle grounds up (in 10-19 and 20-29) compared to how it was on my roleplay realm even before the cross realm BG patch. I guess people can just be tired of playing the same battle grounds and not even run twinks as much. At some point Blizzard needs to look at what detracts from the fun; and implement changes even if it hurts participation short term.