Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 100

Tolsimer · 12/22/08, 1:37 AM

What glyphs would be the best to use, i am thinking execute, and whirlwind, but i am not sure what to use as the third. Also what is the hit cap and expertise cap for arms warriors?

Augy · 12/22/08, 1:49 AM

Great information.

brutalbovine · 12/22/08, 2:01 AM

Originally Posted by Teohetimokan

Duke's ShadowUI 4.0

clean

target

target+ToT+focus+cast

combat

That looks really good, are the two buttons beside the target portrait just some of your abilities with long cooldowns?

P.S. You really should read the first post, just like the title of the thread says.

Anddacin · 12/22/08, 2:14 AM

You are a god amongst men.

Synergy · 12/22/08, 7:15 AM

Am I the only one dreading the thought of playing survival because it's the best DPS? I'm used to and like BM very much. Especially the thought of running up and placing an immolation trap every 24 seconds and then disengaging back just really makes this whole situation we're in seem a whole lot worse if BM gets nerfed enough to not be the best DPS spec anymore.... /cry

Infrantic · 12/22/08, 10:29 AM

What about everyone who, for the past 1½ years have hated to play BM but have had to do it for the best dps?
Be happy that your favourable spec was the most viable for that long..

bomzix · 12/22/08, 10:32 AM

I don't think SV will become the best pure dmg spec. I hope it rises in comparative power but to the top? Don't think so.

coldbear · 12/22/08, 10:39 AM

[Handwraps of Preserved History] just ate dirt. Smoke 'em if you got 'em!

Iru · 12/22/08, 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by Lerastes

That's four RFs in over six minutes with 15.8% up time. Your Rapid Fire up time goes up by 5.4% per talent point.

Thanks lerastes, when I did the rotation in my head it seemed that I wasn't really getting any benefit because I was thinking about a 3 min window. Written down, with a 4 min window, it makes much more sense

CrookedRiver · 12/22/08, 12:46 PM

I have been following this thread since inception and I have a few questions. This is my first post to these forums so I apologize in advance if my questions are too noobish.

How much of a difference in DPS are you seeing between the three specs?

Will BM no longer be viable in raid? (If you can't bring the pain, there is no place for you in raid). Will hunters find themselves limited again to only one per raid?

I may have missed this but has anyone done any raiding on the ptr, if so where did you end up on the dps meter? Top 10? Top 5?

Has an optimal spec come out of this yet?

Finally, how long does anyone think we have before changes go live?

Thank you in advance for taking time to answer my questions.

Diameter · 12/22/08, 2:49 PM

With the abysmal state of druid minor glyphs, I made a post on the WoW Tanking Forums regarding a new/replacement minor glyph that would mirror the warriors Glyph of Bloodrage, but instead remove the penalty for Enrage.

Here is what I posted:

With warriors receiving quite a few glyph changes in the upcoming 3.0.8 patch, I believe it is only fair for druids to receive the same review. In particular, as a feral druid who's focus is on tanking, I am looking for a minor glyph that provides added value to my role. The glyph of challenging roar is something which can be valuable to a druid tank, but in a very limited situation (a situation which would a tank would want to use challenging roar twice in less than 3 minutes). A warrior's Glyph of Bloodrage is being changed such that it reduces the health cost of the Bloodrage ability by 100%. This means a warrior can use Bloodrage with no penalty. What I'm asking for is either a new glyph or a replacement glyph for Glyph of Challenging Roar which would reduce the base armor penalty of Enrage to 0%. This glyph in combination with the talent "King of the Jungle" would create a minor increase in druid threat while also giving druids the ability to use Enrage without penalizing the incoming damage that we take.

Please discuss and/or support my idea.

Druid Minor Glyph Change

Edit: Apparently I was still logged in as my character before I transferred to Mal'ganis so ignore the discrepancy there.

2ndworst · 12/22/08, 3:30 PM

Originally Posted by CrowneVict

With regard to the TrapDancing debate, Blizzard themselves had said back in Beta that they wanted hunters to use their traps more often. I wish I could find the relevant posts, but basically, traps are a tool that see very little use in PvE. As were Stings. As was Arcane Shot. Aimed is seeing regular PvP use. Deterrence changes. Disengage went from useless to useful. Why should they discourage a new challenging playstyle that does exactly what they would like to see done: Using more abilities.

So, intended or not, as long as the numbers aren't way over the top, I would think Bliz would be thrilled to see a skilled trap dance hunter do it's thing. I'm tired of face-rolling the same steady shot macro and having to spec BM 100% of the time because it's the best hands-down. Some variety would be great. This is exactly the play style I was hoping for when WotLK came out, but it was shot down with such heavy ES nerfs.

In my opinion, and in my forums suggestions, SV should have been migrated to a close-range spec anyhow. Think reverse-sniper training. Within 20 yards for bonus damage. Better melee hits. Avoidance for PVP. New strats for PVE. Traps that make you want to spec into them as a 41-pointer (ex, frost traps that also slow attack/casting speed, freezing traps that freeze all in a 5-yard radius, Improved Explosive Traps that have knockback, Improved Immolation traps that spread the immolation DoT to nearby targets within 5-yards, etc).

As it sits, I have been waiting for an excuse to play SV. But it's a conflicted tree. The buff to ES will help, but IMO, BM should be about the pets (it is), MM should be about big ranged hits (it is), SV needs it's own feel. Trap dancing is on the right track, imo.

EDIT ::

ps. Add Volley to the list of one-useless talents that got the big 'dusting off' in wotlk.

i agree with crow .... and I kind of look forward to this aspect of the SV playstyle being added to the game. At the very least it will give SV it's own personality.

Alex234 · 12/22/08, 3:49 PM

The problem I am having when using this macro, is that if I re-press the macro button at any time during the cast sequence for steady shot, it interrupts steady shot and it does not go off.

When i was BM - i was using this macro without any problem.

vulturesrow · 12/22/08, 4:03 PM

THanks for the replies. Im going with +85 AP for now because I dont want to shell out for Massacre. I'm waiting to see if I need to juggle enchants post 3.08

Zomglazerpew · 12/22/08, 6:17 PM

The cooldown on CL is wrong, its 3.5 with talents not 4.5.