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Old 03/26/10, 8:54 AM   #15181
ajakz
 
Draenei Death Knight
 
Anvilmar
Hey guys ,long time reader first time poster.i just recently respeced dw.i know there isnt a set rotaion but a priority system.what sort of rotation would i be using to get myself started on this.i have always been 2 handed and havnt a clue about dw.i have read alot of posts and have been trying to just go with priority but im betyter with some sorta rotation to start off with .thx for any help.

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Old 03/26/10, 9:24 AM   #15182
cpand671
Glass Joe
 
Orc Death Knight
 
Kel'Thuzad
Originally Posted by ajakz View Post
Hey guys ,long time reader first time poster.i just recently respeced dw.i know there isnt a set rotaion but a priority system.what sort of rotation would i be using to get myself started on this.i have always been 2 handed and havnt a clue about dw.i have read alot of posts and have been trying to just go with priority but im betyter with some sorta rotation to start off with .thx for any help.
Obviously not a long time reader, or you would be able to answer your own question. This isn't a forum for hand holding.

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Old 03/26/10, 10:19 AM   #15183
ajakz
 
Draenei Death Knight
 
Anvilmar
hand holding,im looking for some help here.ive read all about priorities on forums.all i need s some kind of rotation.if you have nothing good to input please dont even type..this is a forum to help eachother out,at least thats what i thought.on the unholy and blood forums there is always some kind of rotaion posted.ive looked through these threads and havnt found any.

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Old 03/26/10, 10:49 AM   #15184
cpand671
Glass Joe
 
Orc Death Knight
 
Kel'Thuzad
Originally Posted by ajakz View Post
hand holding,im looking for some help here.ive read all about priorities on forums.all i need s some kind of rotation.if you have nothing good to input please dont even type..this is a forum to help eachother out,at least thats what i thought.on the unholy and blood forums there is always some kind of rotaion posted.ive looked through these threads and havnt found any.
This is a theorycrafting forum not an ask a question and have everything delivered to you forum.

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Old 03/26/10, 10:53 AM   #15185
gabynator
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gabbynator
Human Death Knight
 
Drak'Tharon
why stack arp?

i stack strenght for improve my UA

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Old 03/26/10, 11:27 AM   #15186
pRo-Micha
Glass Joe
 
Dwarf Warlock
 
Black Dragonflight
I have a question. According to the OP, I should gem ArP when I have over 400 ArP on my gear. I am sitting at 419, but whenever I optimize with Rawr it tells me to load up with Agi. Now, do I socket ArP according to the rule, or should I stick with Rawr?

Armory: Elitist Armory: Viewing Darktan of Black Dragonflight us

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Old 03/26/10, 11:39 AM   #15187
Drane
Von Kaiser
 
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Troll Druid
 
Andorhal
Originally Posted by ttyl View Post
They fixed it already. I'm impressed. Still heals for more too
I like this; either we can swiftmend proc rejuvs at a hilarious higher amount, or not swiftmend them at all.

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Old 03/26/10, 12:07 PM   #15188
Vargras
Glass Joe
 
Orc Warrior
 
Moon Guard
Originally Posted by Killertock View Post
The question is, from which one I benefit the most?
With the 1st I get about 1.6% dodge change which is good as I prioritize avoidance as a good road.
With the 2nd one I get about 1.39% of damage reduction which is also good as damage mitigation.
I really don't know which one should I use. As far as I know Rawr rating Glyph better than Ick's....

thanks in advance for any guidance you might give me.
Killertock.
Armor is a very powerful stat to have, as it can increase both your mitigation and your threat (armor is translated into AP because of Armored to the Teeth). It also has a fairly powerful Use, giving you a substantial amount of dodge.

The Rotting Thumb can also be good if your dodge is a bit on the low end, but if it's not, definitely go with the Glyph.

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Old 03/26/10, 12:23 PM   #15189
storpappa_wow
 
Blood Elf Death Knight
 
Durotan
New 80 Blood DPS DK, in the process of moving from quest gear into better stuff.

Is there a good level 80 vendor / easy to move into bare minimal gear list? Not the end great stuff, just the still has that new level 80 smell gear

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Old 03/26/10, 12:23 PM   #15190
RagasLS
Von Kaiser
 
Tauren Druid
 
Laughing Skull (EU)
You don't have an ArPen proc trinket, thus you should be gemming agi unless you can get around 900-1000 passive ArPen rating. Please correct me if i'm wrong, but I remember this being discussed long time ago on one of the threads here - I am not sure why the OP recommends gemming ArPen at 400 ArPen even without ArPen trinekt.

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Old 03/26/10, 1:49 PM   #15191
hibernate
 
Tauren Druid
 
Destromath
Why can't we run with resist on normal mode Sindrogosa?

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Old 03/26/10, 2:40 PM   #15192
Nooska
King Hippo
 
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Blood Elf Hunter
 
Argent Dawn (EU)
@toxicdoggy

I think its a matter of "dependant on your gear and spec specifically - check the spreadsheet" is really the most correct answer.
As you have observed its a dps gain for you ar lower amounts of ArP to gem - I, by chance (hit the wrong gem) found out its a gain for me even before the 640 mark - I think I had 450 roughly when it was a gain - and I did indeed see a not insignificant gain when changing all my agi gems to arp gems in the spreadsheet.

I also think it is highly dependant on buffs - or rather, debuffs on the boss - as when I switched on Sunder armor (to simulate the gain if my fellow hunter brought a worm instead of me) ArP was a greater gain - which makes sense, as we know that the more oyu have the better it is..


hmm

come to think of it.. ArP is like cake then..

ooh sidetracked..

Anyway, yes it does make sense, and no it isn't necessarily something that one tool picks up that the other doesn't.

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Old 03/26/10, 2:43 PM   #15193
aeramis
 
Human Mage
 
Eldre'Thalas
I'm needing help on what I might be doing wrong to be around1.5 to 2k below a similarlly geared mage in our guild. We ran 10m ICC and he outperformed me on every fight. I am doing the right rotation ABx4 and Abarr if it procs. Using all cd's at the beginning of the fight etc. Things get even worse if theres any movement. I'm not looking for handholding just some tips or advice on what I could be doing wrong.Whether its spec or gear or whatever. I plan on talking to him tonight when he gets back and pick his brain.

His char is The World of Warcraft Armory - Skylab @ Eldre'Thalas - Profileon eldre'thas if you need to compare and I am looking up the wws now.
Thank you for any help.

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Old 03/26/10, 3:32 PM   #15194
SpartanG01
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Human Death Knight
 
Wildhammer
Ok I'm having a weird problem. Before 3.3.3 came out I was specced http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?deat...E,HpF3eO,11623 (17/0/54)

Now when 3.3.3 came out I specced http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?deat...GyqM,HpF,11623 (0/17/54)

My gear, gems, enchants.. nothing else has changed. This is my Armory and it's been that way since before 3.3.3
The World of Warcraft Armory - Jericho @ Wildhammer - Profile

That is exactly the same as it was before I respecced (the other spec is my pvp spec)

I didn't lose marginal DPS... I lost about two to three thousand DPS. 2-3k from respeccing to a spec that was supposed to INCREASE my dps lol. I'm just really confused.

I used to be able to hit 5-6k just sitting there kind of fumbling over my rotation while switching targets lol.. now even in sustained aoe I barely hit 5-6k and I was doing 9-10k sustained aoe before.

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Old 03/26/10, 3:39 PM   #15195
carleen
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Night Elf Druid
 
<LFM>
Shattered Hand (EU)
Hi fellow kitties, i was just wondering about a thing. Tonight in Icc25 hc this chest dropped: [Ikfirus's Sack of Wonder] , and i rolled on it because i thought it was better, but according to the Rawr program the tier 10 chest is better for me. And when i say better i mean it makes me do higher dps. I know I lose my set bonus but even if I equipped tier10 shoulders (which I plan to get) my dps was lowered. So what do you think? Also what trinket do you think i should try to get? Here is my armory link: The World of Warcraft Armory - Emeriha @ Shattered Hand - Profile

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