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Old 03/30/10, 2:21 AM   #15361
sako
Glass Joe
 
Tauren Warrior
 
Dalaran (EU)
Hello there, first of all thank you Landsoul for your amazing work.
That being said, sorry for my english.

So I'm a little concern about my stuff's choices lately since I picked up [Glorenzelg, High-Blade of the Silver Hand]
Untill now I've always stick to the spreadsheet for my choices but I would like some advice about something.

With all the stuff available since ICC there is some variant possible resulting in +/- the same DPS but different stats orientation.
Basically it gives : More AP or More Crit

My preference at the moment goes to Hit harder while maintening a decent %crit but I'm wondering if anyone tested the two ingame and came back with a clear opinion about which is better or if it is almost the same.

Hope i'm readable, thanks for your time.

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Old 03/30/10, 2:49 AM   #15362
Flamoon
 
Flamoon
Blood Elf Death Knight
 
Non-US/EU Server (EU)
Good news!Everyone!

I find that 15/56/0 frost DPS talent is much better than 0/53/18!
yes!you don't need to keep your disease on your target all the time,it will fades out for 5s in each 20s,but never mind!

just make sure you can cast 4 OB in the diseased 15 seconds,and then,Frost Strike will also get buffed by OTHER DK's disease!
5s after your disease fades out,you can use PS and IT to attach them again,and cast 4 OB...and so on...

I think it's a good news : )

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Old 03/30/10, 3:54 AM   #15363
yeuni
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Priest
 
Blackrock
Originally Posted by Flamoon View Post
Good news!Everyone!

I find that 15/56/0 frost DPS talent is much better than 0/53/18!
yes!you don't need to keep your disease on your target all the time,it will fades out for 5s in each 20s,but never mind!

just make sure you can cast 4 OB in the diseased 15 seconds,and then,Frost Strike will also get buffed by OTHER DK's disease!
5s after your disease fades out,you can use PS and IT to attach them again,and cast 4 OB...and so on...

I think it's a good news : )
Need more details. It's hard to see how 15/56/0 would be better. Any proof of these two claims?

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Old 03/30/10, 3:56 AM   #15364
Bantha
Glass Joe
 
Undead Warlock
 
Malygos (EU)
Originally Posted by furcio View Post
4% is hit you need versus mob/player at your lvl, 6% to negate racials.
Yeah I was just wondering where that 7% came from. Anyway thanks

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Old 03/30/10, 4:41 AM   #15365
Madolyn
Glass Joe
 
Gnome Mage
 
Turalyon (EU)
Are the glyphs Arcane Blast, Arcane Missiles and Molten Armor still the ones to use after 3.3.3? Considering that Spirit has such a low priority for Arcane mages.. We do have Glyph of Arcane Power and Glyph of Mana Gem but I guess mathwise they don't measure up to Molten Armor glyph? I haven't been able to find any math on this..

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Old 03/30/10, 5:02 AM   #15366
Trajer
Glass Joe
 
Draenei Shaman
 
Windrunner
I recently changed guilds to accommodate my work schedule, and thus am no longer able to gear towards the "Heroic All-Items" list. Does anyone have a list for an All-Items Normal 25/10H list? If not I'll try to work on a list sometime tomorrow, just didn't want to waste my time if there is one out there already.

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Old 03/30/10, 5:58 AM   #15367
Aurrius
Glass Joe
 
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Blood Elf Paladin
 
Bloodfeather (EU)
Originally Posted by Trajer View Post
I recently changed guilds to accommodate my work schedule, and thus am no longer able to gear towards the "Heroic All-Items" list. Does anyone have a list for an All-Items Normal 25/10H list? If not I'll try to work on a list sometime tomorrow, just didn't want to waste my time if there is one out there already.
That list was posted on the same page as this post of yours. Read up and you will find it.

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Old 03/30/10, 6:16 AM   #15368
midgar777
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Druid
 
Alonsus (EU)
Some help with best in slot

Hello everyone,

I'm a Resto Druid that raids ICC10 in a Strict 10 Man guild. I recently picked up the crafted 'Blessed Cenarion Boots' and realised that they are probably going to be the best in slot for a Strict 10 man raider. I wondered, does anyone know what the best in slot is for every slot for someone like me? This would be my guess though it's only rough:

Head: [Sanctified Lasherweave Helmet]
Neck: [Choker of Filthy Diamonds]
Shoulder: [Sanctified Lasherweave Pauldrons]
Back: [Volde's Cloak of the Night Sky]
Chest: [Sanctified Lasherweave Robes]
Wrist: [Wrists of Septic Shock]
Hands: [Sanctified Lasherweave Gauntlets]
Waist: [Cord of Dark Suffering]
Legs: [Sanctified Lasherweave Legplates]
Feet: [Blessed Cenarion Boots]
Ring1: [Ashen Band of Endless Wisdom]
Ring2: [Signet of Putrefaction]
Trinket 1: [Sliver of Pure Ice]
Trinket 2: [Purified Lunar Dust]
Idol: [Idol of the Black Willow]
Mainhand: [Mag'hari Chieftain's Staff]

Any help would be greatly appreciated.. Thanks!

EDIT: Fixed some of the Heroic items I stupidly linked ^_^!

Last edited by midgar777 : 03/30/10 at 2:56 PM. Reason: wrong title

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Old 03/30/10, 6:38 AM   #15369
Mahtasooma
Glass Joe
 
Troll Priest
 
Gorgonnash (EU)
I'm pulling around 8,5k dps with a 19 / 0 / 52 spec in PvE on static bosses where as combat I'd be dealing 9k-9,5k.

However, this is, of course, with absolutely no real training for this spec as it's very new, I played combat for a very long time.
So, with better group optimization and foremost more training with this spec, it should be outdealing the other specs in reality, especially on nonstatic bosses or bosses without 100% melee uptime (like Blood Queen, you just keep dealing damage with Deadly Throw). The possibility of keeping dealing damage to bosses at range (or running up to them) with Deadly Throw is marvellous, as is ShS, preped sprint and so on.

Rotation people keep asking is simple, SnD > Rupture > Evis and "finish with as much CPs as possible".

Only conclusion I came about that it's absolutely not playable in reality without some points in Improved Poisons for Deadly Poison application, so above spec is really the only way for me.

Surprisingly, what the previous poster said is true: no matter how you switch the spec about (10/9/52, 19/0/52, 13/6/51 ...), the differences are marginal. I even tried 27 / 0 / 44 with very similar results...!

Last edited by Mahtasooma : 03/30/10 at 7:48 AM. Reason: post by previous poster

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Old 03/30/10, 9:05 AM   #15370
ShowXdown
Glass Joe
 
Undead Mage
 
Eredar (EU)
Originally Posted by Madolyn View Post
Are the glyphs Arcane Blast, Arcane Missiles and Molten Armor still the ones to use after 3.3.3? Considering that Spirit has such a low priority for Arcane mages.. We do have Glyph of Arcane Power and Glyph of Mana Gem but I guess mathwise they don't measure up to Molten Armor glyph? I haven't been able to find any math on this..
Even when you have no spirit equipped, no points in student of mind, but full raid buffs, glyph of molten armor is still better than glyph of arcane power or any other glyph but arcane blast and arcane missiles. You can double check it with rawr easily.

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Old 03/30/10, 9:45 AM   #15371
Argatha
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Druid
 
Antonidas
You can also try using the add-on FeralByNight
FeralbyNight (Cat & Bear simulation tool) and Feral by Night - Addons - Curse
It does help with threat generation by reminding you to hit mangle, FFF, lacerate, or swipe. If you are a full time bear, I would recommend disabling the cat-specific windows to clear up space.

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Old 03/30/10, 10:04 AM   #15372
Halens
Von Kaiser
 
Pandaren Monk
 
Eonar
Originally Posted by Kinmaul View Post
For single target fights CS>DS even with the 2pc bonus. You would only put DS>CS in an aoe situation.
Wait, what?

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Old 03/30/10, 10:07 AM   #15373
Saizul
Von Kaiser
 
Troll Mage
 
Shadow Council
Speaking of living bomb on Lich King, I was really getting pissed with tab targeting in p3 for vile spirits. It only scrolls through like 4 targets, keeps giving me LK or some spirit I already have LB on.

I have noticed, however, that LB no longer allows you to overwrite. Was this a change that I missed at some point? Anyway, it's nice since it allows the following:

I made a macro to /cast [@mouseover] living bomb, and bound this to my scroll wheel. Then, during spirits I can just wave my cursor wildly across the pack while scrolling and get out a lot of living bombs. Kind of simple, and maybe obvious, but this is a great way to efficiently get out LB on aoe packs - even small groups like valks or trash packs, with very little wasted time.

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Old 03/30/10, 10:08 AM   #15374
Nachti
Von Kaiser
 
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Nachtpfeil
Night Elf Hunter
 
Non-US/EU Server (EU)
Originally Posted by MizarAlcor View Post
Yes, I was the one who posted the question a few posts ago. Without pets that can interrupt, non-BE and non-tauren survival hunters are the only class-race-talent spec combination in the game that can't defeat the Frostmourne encounter with the alternative way, i.e. dispelling the debuff on Terenas or interrupting the cast. All of their interrupts that work in PVP (Scatter, Trap) don't seem to work against the Warden mob (which is also undead, so no Wyvern).
Are you sure you can't dispel the cast with Tranq?

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Old 03/30/10, 10:18 AM   #15375
caboom
Von Kaiser
 
Draenei Warrior
 
Grim Batol (EU)
Hello Landsoul, first of all thanks for the awesome tool you're putting up to use, but as well made as it is, it has a very big(in my opinion) flaw that strikes out a great deal of it's users, the fact that it does not have a documentation that would live up to it's name. I spend alot of time on a number of WoW community forums, including Blizzard's forums, and I see alot of people having a hard time understanding how it works, and thus finding more questions than answers once they attempt to use it. If you could finish the Intro page, and if possible write it in a more "accesible" manner, it would serve alot better for quite a number of it's users.
I also noticed you are an youtube fan, so if you could create a small "how to" movie, it would solve the problem even better.

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