Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 1032

123name · 03/31/10, 8:54 PM

I am all about Armor pen -- what does that do to the cim shot and viper sting --- I use those in my rotation along with the rest. I use the rotation you talked about. My Dps is still not to my liking with my GS. My GS ia 5833 and my DPS in 25M Raids runs 7-8 K\, without volley. I thought it should be 9-10K. Is my thinking correct. Thanks for you time ...

Explosior · 03/31/10, 9:36 PM

I've been attempting to tweek my dps, as much as possible, and after spending time on the spreadsheet 11/55/5 is rendering higher dps no.s.
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Not sure why, but it seems that Aspect Mastery is greater than Survival Instincts.

drizuid · 03/31/10, 9:36 PM

ok, so here's what im wondering, i have 2 t10 pieces, and a few icc 10/25 pieces, but i have ramaladni's culling blade... so im currently using the lowest tier build you show, im wondering since my blade doesn't proc, should i use the blood/unholy w/ reaping? i tried it out once and felt like my dps was lower...

Lilbitters · 03/31/10, 10:54 PM

Originally Posted by Explosior

I've been attempting to tweek my dps, as much as possible, and after spending time on the spreadsheet 11/55/5 is rendering higher dps no.s.
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Not sure why, but it seems that Aspect Mastery is greater than Survival Instincts.

I'm going to guess it may have something to do with lower end gearing and possibly lack of full 25-man raid buffs. Spreadsheeting myself at ArP hardcap from gear, my current spec/gear combination is at 13728.09. Just to compare the two points, I simply dropped 2 points from Survival Instincts and put one into Aspect Mastery (making an impossible spec I know) and my DPS still dropped to 13689.42.

Jenkz · 03/31/10, 11:50 PM

Originally Posted by Sarnoth

I'm having a difficult time keeping my DPS up to par with my gear.

Even with the 10% dps buff in ICC25 right now, I can't seem to pull more than 7.5k dps. (5k on the heroic training dummy) The fury warrior in our group does a consistent 9k to 11k. But looking at my gear now, I really ought to be doing a lot more. I'm not sure if it's a problem with my gear and slight lack of ArP, or if I'm just not using a proper rotation.

I'm not sure why the fury warrior in my raid is doing vastly more damage than me. But here's my rotation:

Charge ... Rend > MS > (slam) > Overpower > Execute on SD (x2 with T10 set bonus) > MS > (slam) > Overpower > (Bladestorm if everything else is on CD) ....... and then it all kinda falls apart.

At times I find myself either rage starved, or spamming slam repeatedly, because all major abilities are on CD.

Is my dps... or LACK of appropriate dps... a gear/spec issue, or a skill/rotation issue? I'd ask the other warriors in my guild, but I'm the only arms warrior, and I wouldn't put it past my guild to replace me if I can't keep up.

I don't think it can be a spec issue, and it definitely isn't a gear issue, as mine is worse and I can pull 9k. I usually start a fight with Charge, Rend, Shattering Throw (unless I'm saving it), Mortal Strike and then Bladestorm. After Bladestorm is finished I just prioritise Mortal Strike > Overpower > Execute. Probably not perfect, but works for me.

Edit: I noted you said you get rage starved, do you have a Shaman dropping a Windfury Totem or a Frost DK with improved Icy Talons? Because that'll be a pretty noticable DPS loss if you don't, though I'm not sure how to account for the Fury Warrior doing so much better if that's the case...

Sarnoth · 03/31/10, 11:55 PM

Originally Posted by Jenkz

I don't think it can be a spec issue, and it definitely isn't a gear issue, as mine is worse and I can pull 9k. I usually start a fight with Charge, Rend, Shattering Throw (unless I'm saving it), Mortal Strike and then Bladestorm. After Bladestorm is finished I just prioritise Mortal Strike > Overpower > Execute. Probably not perfect, but works for me.

Edit: I noted you said you get rage starved, do you have a Shaman dropping a Windfury Totem or a Frost DK with improved Icy Talons? Because that'll be a pretty noticable DPS loss if you don't, though I'm not sure how to account for the Fury Warrior doing so much better if that's the case...

I'll be back after the next raid. I'll post a video of my dps, maybe you'll see something I can't. :\

matao0661 · 04/01/10, 1:23 AM

Ok so I'm trying out BM and I made my own spec, and I have to say I have been doing well with it and really loving it over MM. I have read the 3.3 BM thread, but have a few simple questions. I use Rawr to find the best gear for my hunter as I gear her out, and it shows hunter DPs and pet DPs. If I sort it out to show over all it shows some gear that's low hunter DPs with high pet DPs over some gear that high hunter DPs and low pet DPs if it comes out to be more. I was wondering if I should use the over all or the higher hunter gear?

I'm thinking about retooling my spec more for raids as I made my spec for PvP, but was wounding if I'm heading in the right path. The World of Warcraft Armory - Octahurt @ Eldre'Thalas - Profile

I haven't really seen anything that says what Tier set bonus are best for BM, and what peaces you should keep from what sets to make the best gear builds.

Have a good one,
Matao

P.S. I use a Devilsour at this time.

Luthus · 04/01/10, 2:59 AM

Hey all, long time reader first time poster, I have the great misfortune of not having [Blood-Soaked Saronite Stompers] drop for me yet, so I am going the crafting route until they do.

I was under the impression that [Footpads of Impending Death] > [Hellfrozen Bonegrinders] however RAWR is putting [Hellfrozen Bonegrinders] ahead by 62 dps in my current gear, its not alot and it could be a modleing error by me, but I was wondering if there had ever been a discussion about this for the un lucky people like myself.

Derfal · 04/01/10, 3:57 AM

Originally Posted by stassart

I pop drums of speed that fight if I dropped out of the portal room far away from the next set of portals and have to run far. Even 15% speed boost means 15% speed boost means getting off at least another extra hw if you have to run from one side of the dragon to the other. In addition I often come out with other healers so if I have to run far they likely do too so that speed boost helps them too. I also try to save my nature's swiftness for when I have this situation too so that I can throw an NS HW. I will also usually pause to consume the T10 2-piece hasted HW if I have to move far.

Inside the portal room keep in mind that Crusader Aura actually works so if your healers get used to running with that in the portal room that provides a lot of speed boost.

That was part of the question, i was also wondering if it increases the 'swim' speed.

Thank you for mentioning the Crusader aura, I'd not thougth about that one.

Paulten · 04/01/10, 4:52 AM

Alright, so heres the story. I have a friend who plays as a warlock (I do not have one). He says that regardless your supposed to stack SP over Haste, I told him off of what I know as a mage, from a 1 to 1 ratio eventually Haste beats spell power. He is convinced that some website he read X amount of days ago with theorycraft about warlocks said regardless of your gear, always stack SP.

So I decided to post here and ask some people that actually understand their class to the T. My question in specific is simple, should warlock's stack haste over spellpower. Some other information that would help would be at which point at any should you stack haste, what gear or requirements would be best to stack spellpower over haste, and any other related information to the topic.

Im thankful for anything anyone can post. I would love it if you could post links to the information and on top of that specific posts / pages. I understand that there is quite a bit of information on the main page and I did read that, however Im sure that post is outdated and is not up to date with 3.3.

Here is some other information about my friend. He has 2set T10 and 2set T9, along with some gear from ToC 10m and Triumph and Frost badge gear. Hes speced into Affliction.

Thanks again to anyone who can respond, I appreciate it.

Dóga · 04/01/10, 5:32 AM

Originally Posted by Elyasviel

This gear set seems to give me higher DPS on rwar as Arcane 57/3/11.

Helm:[Sanctified Bloodmage Hood]
Neck:[Blood Queen's Crimson Choker]
Shoulders:[Sanctified Bloodmage Shoulderpads]
Back:[Frostbinder's Shredded Cape]
Chest:[Sanctified Bloodmage Robe]
Bracers:[Death Surgeon's Sleeves]
Gloves:[Sanctified Bloodmage Gloves]
Belt:[Crushing Coldwraith Belt]
Legs:[Plaguebringer's Stained Pants]
Feet:[Plague Scientist's Boots]
Ring 1:[Ring of Rapid Ascent]
Ring 2:[Ashen Band of Endless Destruction]
Trinket 1:[Dislodged Foreign Object]
Trinket 2:[Reign of the Dead]
Weapon:[Bloodsurge, Kel'Thuzad's Blade of Agony]
Off Hand:[Shadow Silk Spindle]
Wand:[Corpse-Impaling Spike]

lets say my guild ISN'T capable of doing heroic 25s yet... what should I do with my legs/gloves issue?

Elyasviel · 04/01/10, 6:01 AM

Get 4pc T10 with Leggings of Woven Death

Reii · 04/01/10, 6:33 AM

During heroic Deathbringer Saurfang in my experience there is no need for DSac, everything till 30% is very easy, 30%-0% gets spiky, but only from 50-100 of his runic power, so you can refresh SS, Bol, JotP till 50 runic power, when damage ticks less without fearing of someone dying... You cover RNG ( boiling blood + Mark of the Fallen Champion ) with BoP which should be off CD if you used it at the begining to reduce runic power gain and also pain surperession...

paraa · 04/01/10, 6:36 AM

How to gem as mutilate?

Some say ap/haste in red sockets and all other sockets haste.
Others say only ap
Others say only agi.

What´s the best way?

Triba · 04/01/10, 7:05 AM

Originally Posted by paraa

How to gem as mutilate?

Some say ap/haste in red sockets and all other sockets haste.
Others say only ap
Others say only agi.

What´s the best way?

I have tried the program called Rawr, and it said i have to regem all my gems to agi, so i can preform higher dps. So i went and bougt 20 red epic gems, i resocketed all to agi, and i lost like 500 dps. I had all my gems is AP.

with almost 6000 GS i have around 11K Dps on bosses.

But if someone has a better ide, i'll be gald to hear it, so i can preform better dps