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Old 04/01/10, 7:10 AM   #15481
Nyquilt
 
Blood Elf Paladin
 
Blackrock
On both 25 man and 10 man heroic Saurfang, I had ~68% uptime on chaosbane. I haven't checked what procs the soul fragments but I have noticed that sometimes I get 7 stacks in less than a second.

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Old 04/01/10, 7:47 AM   #15482
Vaathi
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Paladin
 
Warsong
Originally Posted by Nyquilt View Post
On both 25 man and 10 man heroic Saurfang, I had ~68% uptime on chaosbane. I haven't checked what procs the soul fragments but I have noticed that sometimes I get 7 stacks in less than a second.
So, Shadowmourne procs like TaJ for us? I've been asking this myself since i'm getting shards to get mine already. 7 procs in 1 - 2 swings seems pretty amazing to me, hope ur not joking for 1st april lawl :p

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Old 04/01/10, 7:49 AM   #15483
Wimpyone
Von Kaiser
 
Night Elf Rogue
 
Emerald Dream (EU)
Originally Posted by Triba View Post
I have tried the program called Rawr, and it said i have to regem all my gems to agi, so i can preform higher dps. So i went and bougt 20 red epic gems, i resocketed all to agi, and i lost like 500 dps. I had all my gems is AP.

with almost 6000 GS i have around 11K Dps on bosses.

But if someone has a better ide, i'll be gald to hear it, so i can preform better dps
Use a spreadsheet: Aldriana's Spreadsheets

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Old 04/01/10, 9:04 AM   #15484
FroztSpectre
Glass Joe
 
Undead Rogue
 
Barthilas
Thank you for adding Purple and Green gems, i appreciate it =)

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Old 04/01/10, 10:37 AM   #15485
Roccor
Banned
 
Draenei Warrior
 
Ravencrest
I just recently gained the 4th piece of my T10 gear and while I'm definately not a Warrioring guru (thats why EJ exists), I always did very well in my guilds 10 and 25man ICC raids. I noticed last night on the Blood Queen however that I took a DPS loss somewhere. I have a feeling it's most likely in my rotation, which over the past few months has been, rage permitting, spamming HS and BT and WW every time their up along with every Slam proc. Except on the obvious fights, I almost never have Rage issues.

So after reading through the posts here I can confirm that I am indeed a nooblet and I'm asking for help to improve my dps output.

EDIT removed the question about arp.. it was dumb ;p


Anyone have some wowlogs out there? I'd love to see how experienced and effective Fury compares to other similarly geared classes.

Last edited by Roccor : 04/01/10 at 10:48 AM.

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Old 04/01/10, 10:51 AM   #15486
Lillavarg
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Druid
 
Balnazzar (EU)
I heard so many stories about hit cap and how much hit you shall have so my question is...how much hit do I need as fury while raiding? i am arp hardcapped and exp capped and got 205 hit rating.

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Old 04/01/10, 11:17 AM   #15487
something18
Glass Joe
 
Tauren Warrior
 
Stormreaver
Originally Posted by Lillavarg View Post
I heard so many stories about hit cap and how much hit you shall have so my question is...how much hit do I need as fury while raiding? i am arp hardcapped and exp capped and got 205 hit rating.
hit cap is 163 and change, so essentially 164 to ensure all your special attacks will hit a raid boss (lvl 83). However, if you have that heroic presence buff from drans you'll only need 131 hit. heres a solid site for hit rating required for any class. WoW Heroes - World of Warcraft PvE character info & ratings, although this rly isn't hard to find online. Apologies if posting links besides wowlogs is against policy.


Originally Posted by Roccor View Post
I noticed last night on the Blood Queen however that I took a DPS loss somewhere. I have a feeling it's most likely in my rotation, which over the past few months has been, rage permitting, spamming HS and BT and WW every time their up along with every Slam proc. Except on the obvious fights, I almost never have Rage issues.

So after reading through the posts here I can confirm that I am indeed a nooblet and I'm asking for help to improve my dps output.
I believe ur asking for rotation help so ill answer that.
There's 2 alternate rotations that both yield the same amount of dps although most warriors seem to use the first i've found.

BT -- WW -- FREE -- BT -- FREE -- FREE -- start again from the beginning.

WW -- BT -- FREE -- FREE -- BT -- FREE -- rinse and repeat

only heroic strike when it will not rage starve you, include the possibility of your next white attacks missing. use a slam proc during a free spot, or an execute if slam doesn't proc and the boss < 20%.

This might change slightly if you have the 4p T10 bonus which i dont have, so somebody may have to fill in that part

Last edited by something18 : 04/01/10 at 11:27 AM.

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Old 04/01/10, 11:23 AM   #15488
Whee
Glass Joe
 
Orc Warlock
 
Gul'dan (EU)
@Paulten:
Let him run SimCraft. SP > Haste like 98% of the time. So stack zzzee Spellpowazzzz.

@Stroup:
If you refresh Corruption; Spellpower and Haste are recalculated. Each refresh. i.e: Have 9001 SP, apply Corr. -> Corr with OVER NINETHOUSND SP IS GOING ON WTFBBQ -> Refresh Corr with Haunt, BUT you over-ninethousand Trinket-Buff goes away (so let's say you have 8999 =() ->Corr. ticks are recalculated like a Corr that would have been applied with 8999 SP

Sad story. But you can, and should like in all 31337 posts about this mechanic, use this mechanic to your advantage. DMG Multipliers (T10.4, Tricks, Bloodqueen's Thing, <35%, etc) AND crit (NMIC, etc...) are NOT recalculated. This effects roll all Day long until Corr wears off.
So old news =(

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Old 04/01/10, 11:58 AM   #15489
Krowe
Glass Joe
 
Orc Rogue
 
Kil'Jaeden
Chack, you are too awesome. Thanks so much

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Old 04/01/10, 12:06 PM   #15490
angaroth
Piston Honda
 
Undead Warlock
 
Twisting Nether
Originally Posted by stroupaloop View Post
I'm not sure if your post is 100% accurate.
1) I assume that Crit is also "recalculated."
Your assumption is wrong.

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Old 04/01/10, 12:49 PM   #15491
rocksolid
 
Night Elf Warrior
 
Mannoroth
sundering...

FYI I had the same problem being the only warrior in the raid and being asked to sunder. If you start the fight putting 5 sunders up you'll be behind on the dps race the entire time; furthermore, if you're doing say rotface and have to run out you might have to start all over again with 5 sunders (its even worse for bloodprinces). Anyway, what i started doing is sundering only when BT/WW are on CD. Yes, it can take 40s or so before you get 5 sunders up, but it makes it reasonable if you're the only warrior and I've yet to see anyone complain.

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Old 04/01/10, 1:38 PM   #15492
xeonoex
Glass Joe
 
Undead Warlock
 
Thunderlord
Originally Posted by Nyaru View Post
So, I've been wondering what could be the actual optimal gear as an affliction lock, since the compendium shows only one without LK drops. What would be best to fill the hit gap from the los of Rigormortis?

Link to the compendium profile : Profiler - Wowhead
While I haven't sim'd every option, I would assume [Amulet of the Silent Eulogy] would be one of the best options.

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Old 04/01/10, 1:52 PM   #15493
Jerigoris
Glass Joe
 
Human Warrior
 
Blackwater Raiders
Originally Posted by something18 View Post
I believe ur asking for rotation help so ill answer that.
There's 2 alternate rotations that both yield the same amount of dps although most warriors seem to use the first i've found.

BT -- WW -- FREE -- BT -- FREE -- FREE -- start again from the beginning.

WW -- BT -- FREE -- FREE -- BT -- FREE -- rinse and repeat

only heroic strike when it will not rage starve you, include the possibility of your next white attacks missing. use a slam proc during a free spot, or an execute if slam doesn't proc and the boss < 20%.

This might change slightly if you have the 4p T10 bonus which i dont have, so somebody may have to fill in that part
If u have the 4TP bonus, u basicaly use ur slam procs during the FREE times, HS when u have rage enough not to rage starve u after using it and u ALSO can use, in case slam DOESNT proc, one of those FREE times with the rending macro, so that u'll have 2 bleeding dmg running at the same time, and by the time u get back, ur BT is about to b able to use and u get back to ur normal rotation. (btw, i use the 1st example that "Something18"put up)

And here's the rending macro that was some pages back (someone created it, so i do not take any credit for it)

#showtooltip Rend
/castsequence reset=3 Battle Stance, Rend, Berserker Stance, Rend
/stopcasting

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Old 04/01/10, 2:00 PM   #15494
TheBacon
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Human Paladin
 
Kel'Thuzad
Just did this as best as I could. I switched to my prot pvp spec without the glyph and adjusted gear to be right at 26 chactersheet exp. I auto-attacked until the seal ran out and did not record 1 dodge. I was slightly under hit cap from removing exp gear with hit gems but only recorded misses on the dot refresh and vindication interestingly enough.



I then realized I could just use a 1h and auto attacked until I got a dodge, which happened on the second attack.


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Old 04/01/10, 2:05 PM   #15495
atqo
 
Orc Death Knight
 
Alonsus (EU)
Hello EJ! First time poster :9 . So i have read only good things about specing to frost now. Right now im thinking about specking to frost , but i have a question about my weapons. I only have that mace from 10man normal Festergut, called Gutbuster if i remember right. What would be the best weapon from the new heroics to cope with it and would it be a dps increase or decrease to speck to frost with my current gear?

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