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Old 04/05/10, 7:03 PM   #15646
Krc
Glass Joe
 
Human Warrior
 
Bronzebeard
Rage will be completely redone and normalized in Cataclysm Rage Normalization in Cataclysm.

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Old 04/05/10, 7:11 PM   #15647
Tarnix
Glass Joe
 
Undead Rogue
 
Mal'Ganis
Is it better to have:

1) a slow MH weapon with instant poison, and a fast OH weapon with deadly poison

or

2) a fast MH weapon with deadly poison, and a slow OH weapon with instant poison

The faq hasnt been updated in a long time and I'm seeing a lot of top rogues use option 2. Also both my daggers are same dps, heroic Ribspreader and heroic lungbreaker.

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Old 04/05/10, 7:55 PM   #15648
c0ddingt0n
 
Undead Death Knight
 
Illidan
Great frost post, Deffiently going to try this out, 2 Questions tho

1: What would you consider a good rotation for frost DPS?

2: Why dont you max out Black Ice?

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Old 04/05/10, 8:12 PM   #15649
ghetroboy
Glass Joe
 
Undead Mage
 
Tortheldrin
Edit: Nevermind I found my answer in a different thread.

Last edited by ghetroboy : 04/05/10 at 8:17 PM. Reason: Found my anwer.

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Old 04/05/10, 9:10 PM   #15650
Lifeleaf
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Rogue
 
Arthas
I greatly appreciate your hard work so far. Thanks for updating before you quit.

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Old 04/05/10, 9:18 PM   #15651
tacotap
 
Gnome Mage
 
Kil'Jaeden
Just curious about the fire buffs. Anyone have the BIS list?

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Old 04/05/10, 11:27 PM   #15652
Prys
 
Blood Elf Mage
 
Cairne
I am curious as to how mages keep their DPS up in pretty mobile/fluid fights Right now the guild is trying to progress further into ICC 10 (reg). Main spec'd into arcane with off-spec as frost. Anything I should be looking to do in terms of rotation?

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Old 04/05/10, 11:47 PM   #15653
Resound
Glass Joe
 
Draenei Mage
 
Stormscale
Originally Posted by Prys View Post
I am curious as to how mages keep their DPS up in pretty mobile/fluid fights Right now the guild is trying to progress further into ICC 10 (reg). Main spec'd into arcane with off-spec as frost. Anything I should be looking to do in terms of rotation?
It's really just proper positioning, and minimizing movement as much as possible. Knowledge of the encounters, the in's and outs of your class, and of course, correctly itemized gear, all help too. (granted, there are some fights that aren't as friendly, rotface and the lich king come to mind immediately)

Is there any particular encounter that is causing trouble?

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Old 04/06/10, 12:12 AM   #15654
blakex
Glass Joe
 
Gnome Mage
 
Cenarion Circle
Just always make sure to use your instants as you move. Whenever I need to move in Putricide or LK, I'm always casting Arcane Barrage and Fire Blast. Fire may not be the best damage, but while you're moving and Barrage is down, use it, by the time the GCD on Fire Blast is up, your Barrage should be back. There's probably other instants you might be able to throw in, but those are the two I have hotkeyed and use all the time while moving.

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Old 04/06/10, 2:08 AM   #15655
vecdran
Glass Joe
 
Orc Rogue
 
Lightbringer
Hey guys, long time lurker here. Hoping to get some gemming advice.

So I recently un-noobed my gem selection and converted all of my AGI gems to AP. I decided to go for a rupture combat build since the rupture changes, and my thinking for yellow gems was to put in AP/Crit, and Rawr agrees with this. I'm still not fully convinced that I made the right choice though, considering I still see all the other ICC geared rogues on my server running AP/Haste. They are running ruptureless builds however.

I'm still remaining competitive DPS wise against rogues of similar or greater GS, so I'm guessing I'm probably looking at minute differences in DPS here, but I would appreciate help in silencing or confirming that nagging feeling I'm having...

(Many apologies if this has already been discussed, but I searched around for about 20 minutes and didn't see this anywhere else.)

PS.
Or should I be hopping on the ArP bandwagon and dumping my rupture build?

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Old 04/06/10, 3:16 AM   #15656
Ripsterr
Glass Joe
 
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Human Warrior
 
Stormreaver (EU)
I am sure that in the long end, this is quite a nerf they've set in store for us. We all know that right now, rage is there just for kicks, almost. But it doesn't change the fact that the less we have to control our rage, the more damage we do, because basically there's no limit as to how much you can spam your abilities without having to worry about starvation.

We just have to wait and see I suppose.

Last edited by Ripsterr : 04/06/10 at 3:26 AM.

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Old 04/06/10, 3:30 AM   #15657
saedo
King Hippo
 
Night Elf Rogue
 
Gorgonnash
The "ArP bandwagon" does not drop rupture. It does take a certain level of gear before ArP becomes the top stat again. Check the various spreadsheets/tools to figure out if you got it.

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Old 04/06/10, 4:24 AM   #15658
Elite58
 
Undead Death Knight
 
Aman'Thul
Best spec for locks

Look i know im probally gonna get in trouble for this post but i hope not, ive searched the forums for info on destro locks and only found a post from wow 3.0 im trying to figure out whether this means that destro is not the best spec anymore and if so what spec i should use for pve/raiding, so if someone can give me some info i would appreciate it thanks

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Old 04/06/10, 5:14 AM   #15659
Crazydam
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Mage
 
Sylvanas (EU)
I personally play fire at LK fight but "if" I would go arcane due to this thread is about arcane and not fire ofc, I think I would spec 2 imp FB (like I alrdy do) which makes my FB makes have a casting time of 0.75 or so in raid (ofc under GCD) but thats less important imo, prio is 2 slow when having issues with valk, imo mages should be last line of defence at valks, if u think the 40% slow from FB is not enough then u can move 2 wards points in 8more % of slow.

Imo slow is a waste.

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Old 04/06/10, 5:45 AM   #15660
Vitek
 
Human Paladin
 
Greymane
Do to the changes with haste and FS how do Ele Shamans start a fight now? After dropping totems is it still FS EM LB?

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