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Old 04/10/10, 7:36 AM   #15826
Elaztorh
Banned
 
Orc Rogue
 
Blackrock
Help

any combat rogue out there? i cant seem to find any combat rogue DPS rotation

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Old 04/10/10, 7:42 AM   #15827
Manbis
Glass Joe
 
Gnome Mage
 
Malygos (EU)
Hello guys, i have a quick question. How good is moonkin dps compared to others exactly? Im a mage and im dooing my job perfectly fine but since 2 weeks our moonkin explodes and is dooing his 14k dps in icc 25er hero , along with me we top the meters. But most of the time i read , that moonkins cant compete and are more or less "crappy"? I ask because im curiose..

Sry for bad english.

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Old 04/10/10, 8:09 AM   #15828
Beveline
Von Kaiser
 
Beveline's Avatar
 
Human Priest
 
Stormrage
Originally Posted by Amargeres1289 View Post
I have a question, for warlock enchants y'all considered 81 spellpower or 63 spellpower to be the most useful. what do you think about the newer enchant for weapons: Black Magic, which has a chance of giving 250 haste on spell cast. I use it and it pops quite frequently. wondering what y'all would consider for that to be a DPS up or down.
I would recommend that you use the Simulationcraft tool to check it on your own gear and verify the changes, as this will save you some gold and frustration from testing in real time situations. That being said, I assume that you are using the Demo spec primarily for rDPS and/or if you are lilke me, actually enjoy playing the spec. Black Magic, even if it is an pDPS upgrade for you, would be a rDPS downgrade for your raid. So I wouldn't personally recommend it for you.

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Old 04/10/10, 10:19 AM   #15829
soontobelitemage
 
Blood Elf Mage
 
Norgannon
I have a question...I currently have a spell power of 2802 and a haste of 389 Im having a hard time figuring out what Im doing wrong because im not pumping out nearly as much DPS as I know that I can. On average in a 10 man ICC run I put out about 4.5k Im using the ABspamMbarr rotation I have just hit a wall and cant figure it out any help will be appreciated.

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Old 04/10/10, 12:37 PM   #15830
Shivvex
Glass Joe
 
Tauren Death Knight
 
Spinebreaker
So am I correct to assume that if you're below expertise cap as a Unholy DK it's ok? I've been told to gem expertise and then I've been told not to.

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Old 04/10/10, 12:41 PM   #15831
Cobrakai
Von Kaiser
 
Tauren Hunter
 
Burning Legion
Originally Posted by mako View Post
I believe you're mistaken. "Time between procs" is not the same as "Cooldown," the spreadsheet does not model either of the T10 bonuses as having an ICD, as both of their cooldowns have a value of 0.
Ahh I see - thanks for the clarification.

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Old 04/10/10, 12:43 PM   #15832
sugglekitten
 
Troll Hunter
 
Shattered Halls
Missdirect is only for one target

Hello.
In my experience missdirect only effects one target and not the second or third. So when you use volly you are hiting a lot of guys who are not under the missdirection spell. now if missdirect were and aoe that would be awsome

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Old 04/10/10, 3:41 PM   #15833
filthy
Glass Joe
 
Human Death Knight
 
Neptulon (EU)
My EP's

EP AttackPower | 1 (0,83 DPS/per AP)
EP Strength | 2,84
EP Agility | 1,35
EP CritRating | 1,95
EP HasteEstimated | 2,67
EP HasteRating1 | 3,11
EP ArmorPenetrationRating | 2,72
EP ExpertiseRating | 1,18
Personal Expertise value | 0,39
BeforeMeleeHitCap<8% | 2,64
EP SpellHitRating | 0,26
EP WeaponDPS | 7,71
EP WeaponSpeed | 265,06


This is what im currently getting with my gear, only lack 277 t10 shoulder, helm and gloves (and hc DBW) for BiS.
even got my hands on shadowmourne.

EP HasteRating1 | 3,11 ?

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Old 04/10/10, 4:02 PM   #15834
ackthbbft
 
Night Elf Druid
 
Velen
Erm... all the item links in the OP are broken!

The OP says if I have to Mangle the mob myself, [Idol of the Corruptor] is the best Idol slot item.

My question is, since Mangle has been buffed to last 1 minute instead of just 12 seconds, is [Idol of the Corruptor] still the best if I have to Mangle, or is [insert other missing idol link(s) here] better now that the duration of Mangle is longer and I don't have to do it as often?

Unfortunately, with the broken links in the OP, I don't remember what the other good Idols are supposed to be.

Edited: corrected references to the Idol slot as "trinket" and reworded the post/question.

Last edited by ackthbbft : 04/10/10 at 7:25 PM.

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Old 04/10/10, 4:56 PM   #15835
Stuckpig
 
Blood Elf Rogue
 
Draenor
Hey guys first time post, long time reader, I'm a long time mutilate rogue, I've never raided as combat, but I just acquired Black Bruise and Keleseth's Seducer (in one run, and sorry I don't know how to link items.) I was wondering if there's a raid worthy spec for dual fists for rogues? I looked around on these forums for an answer before i posted but wasn't able to find anything... Thanks!

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Old 04/10/10, 5:13 PM   #15836
biatz
 
Blood Elf Death Knight
 
Conseil des Ombres (EU)
nice

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Old 04/10/10, 5:24 PM   #15837
Nicedps
Banned
 
Troll Rogue
 
Lightning's Blade (EU)
Originally Posted by Kouklaki View Post
A very nice, clean, app.

I am having some discrepancies using a fast, highest DPS dagger in the MH slot. I recently upgraded my S.Bladebreaker for a H Lungbreaker with my DPS showing 12650. Swapping the Lungbreaker into MH and my 264 Rib Spreader into the OH should have shown a dps increase but instead it dropped to 12641. I understand your app handles poisons correctly so I thought this may be a bug or simply a difference in modelling. For reference, Ald's sheet shows an ~30 dps increase.
+1 same problem, we are waiting for answers...

In advance thanks

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Old 04/10/10, 5:42 PM   #15838
Crevan
Don Flamenco
 
Gnome Rogue
 
Darksorrow (EU)
If you're die-hard combat (I am), the path is (assuming you're to hit poison cap and expertise dodge cap) AGI unless you're bumping up against crit cap, otherwise Armor Pen? Or is there something else determining the cutoff point. My gear doesn't -quite- get along with Aldriana's sheet just yet, so I'm still doing some of this seat of the pants.
You will want to have a certain amount or armour penetration on your gear before starting to gem for it. I don't know the exact number, since I haven't played combat in a while. Might be in the region of 400ish. but someone correct me if you know better.
I've never raided as combat, but I just acquired Black Bruise and Keleseth's Seducer
Keleseth's Seducer is a slow offhand, which pretty much makes is an enhancement exclusive. You could use Splintershard (Sindragosa 10) if you wanted to go with fists, but by using fists you'll run into crit-capping problems much faster than with other weapons.

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Old 04/10/10, 6:22 PM   #15839
Stuckpig
 
Blood Elf Rogue
 
Draenor
thanks crevan, what about using fist/daggs, black bruise/heartpierce be a good combo?

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Old 04/10/10, 7:13 PM   #15840
lairpie
Don Flamenco
 
Pandaren Monk
 
Shadowmoon
Idol of the corrupter wasn't best for tanking or dps before the mangle debuff got extended and it still isn't. One of the first 2 idols mentioned in the post is the best for any situation. The discussion of the rest of the idols is only relevant if you don't have the badges to get the ICC or TOC idols and happen to have one of the old ones sitting around or something.

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