Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 1097

Necrome · 05/01/10, 12:23 AM

In the faq of the opening post is written that expertise cap is not so important. So how much expertise one has to have that its still acceptable ?
Or can I just reduce it in a simulation and replace it with another stat until the damage getting less ?

Razgoroth · 05/01/10, 12:37 AM

Originally Posted by korgathbloodbath

This might seem like a stupid question, but why put the three points into ravenous dead if you don't have the permanent ghoul? Is there a reasoning for this or is just because the timed ghoul is used more often than death coil/death and decay (morbidity) and death grip (unholy command)?

+3% Strength.

Bulchy · 05/01/10, 12:52 AM

Originally Posted by Necrome

In the faq of the opening post is written that expertise cap is not so important. So how much expertise one has to have that its still acceptable ?
Or can I just reduce it in a simulation and replace it with another stat until the damage getting less ?

Cap it? 26 Expertise?

Lethargic · 05/01/10, 12:56 AM

This is a little off topic from the hard mode boss conversations, but I was just curious about something.

What offset item are most of you aiming for? I'm having a little trouble deciding between the shoulders off Heroic Blood Prince Council [Shoulders of Frost-Tipped Thorns] or the cloth chest [Sanguine Silk Robes] off the same boss.

Just thought I'd throw this question out there, I apologize if it was discussed before I tried looking but found nothing on the subject. Thanks for your time.

Deadmauzz · 05/01/10, 2:12 AM

I did have the correct raid buffs, but I checked the fight settings and they were off. Thanks for pointing that out.

Citgo · 05/01/10, 4:51 AM

Originally Posted by korgathbloodbath

This might seem like a stupid question, but why put the three points into ravenous dead if you don't have the permanent ghoul? Is there a reasoning for this or is just because the timed ghoul is used more often than death coil/death and decay (morbidity) and death grip (unholy command)?

Ravenous Dead
Increases your total Strength by 3% and the contribution your Ghouls get from your Strength and Stamina by 60%.

DFGum · 05/01/10, 6:08 AM

Originally Posted by Petrocity

I'm showing Skeleton Lord's Circle to be a significant (50dps) upgrade over Might of Blight using Exemplar's spreadsheet with BIS items + shadowmourne. The only way I could see Might of Blight being better is if you're using Glorenzelg and don't need the expertise.

It is a PLATE BIS list, and as such does not include AGI items.

Subetei · 05/01/10, 7:45 AM

Originally Posted by tuberqlosis

I'm not saying it won't be used almost on cooldown as an instant alternative to standing to cast either UA or Immolate, but that it's CD will be longer than the duration of UA or untalented Immo to prevent those two spells from becoming "Corruption 2.0". .

having the cooldown being longer than UA would be nonsensical. as every other time you'd need to recast UA. this would defeat the purpose of the spell. 15sec wouldn't improve mobility at all. my guess is it will be a low dps mobility filler spell probably like a 3sec cool down. it will prob be dmg vs moving trade off.

with the changes to other classes this sort of spell will be absolutely necessary..... as hunter get a range dmg taken reduction skill, paladins and ferals get an interrupt, dks get a spell reflect and warriors get that jumping in the air aoe stun before they land skill..... they put the running and inst fel fire for a reason.

Vedam · 05/01/10, 7:53 AM

Originally Posted by DFGum

It is a PLATE BIS list, and as such does not include AGI items.

huh?

sanntt · 05/01/10, 10:34 AM

Is there somekind of haste cap for enh shamans?

Mariomen · 05/01/10, 11:27 AM

Hmm i read topic about Fury Warrior and i have (i think so) all requirements.
I think i have good hit rating - 449
But little expertise.

This is my armory - The World of Warcraft Armory - Mariomen @ Burning Legion - Profile (First Mariomen in EU :P)
And my problem is - big DPS about 5k on trash in random HC, trash in ICC.
But my DPS on boss is very low. About 3-4k
I have 5k GS and I think it is possible more.
I have gem in ArP, collect reputation on Ebon Blade and maybe some tips for me?
I know the rotation because i read really good description on TankSpot Fury Warrior.

So what is wrong and what should be a little better? Thanks for the advice

Dextera · 05/01/10, 11:28 AM

why is [Ashen Band of Endless Vengeance] still on the BiS list when [Ashen Band of Endless Might] is available? agility only gives us crit and armour as far as i'm aware i tested it with some "of agility" sholders those were the only 2 stats to increase, so is this purely for the crit chance?

ok adding some quick napkin math (ignoring the stats that are the same (i.e hit) and the proc) and assuming you gem [Inscribed Ametrine] in the might ring and [Bold Cardinal Ruby] in the vengeance ring

[Ashen Band of Endless Vengeance] gives us 175AP, 2.78% crit

[Ashen Band of Endless Might] gives us 285.89AP 1.51% crit (not sure if decimals for AP are rounded up or down so left it at the raw figures)

Gleancrawler · 05/01/10, 11:46 AM

Hello i was wondering if there was any way to simulate the ICC buff? Would all specs scale the same or would the Pet specs ( 0_56_15/0_18_53) get the most out of buff since its an increase to them as well. As my Guild is now working our way through heroic 25man ICC and the buff currently stands at 15%, am i doing the best by my guild by staying affliction (when the other demo turns up atleast)?

Josefar · 05/01/10, 1:09 PM

Yes in this case its only for the crit chance. Your napkin math failed you some btw, on the agi ring you forgot to scale the str and on the str ring you overscaled it.

Marloss · 05/01/10, 1:49 PM

What would be the best choice between [Twin's Pact] and [Hellion Glaive]?

The only gains by wielding Twin's Pact would be 16 more AP and 90 more haste rating, while the gains by wielding Hellion Glaive would be 2 more FAP, 8 more ArP and 90 more crit rating. I am closing in on being ArP soft capped with [Needle-Encrusted Scorpion], so the ArP from Hellion Glaive obviously helps to get me even closer. Also, one would assume that 90 crit rating would be more valuable than 90 haste rating, especially since I am quite far from being crit capped.

So in my eyes this would make Hellion Glaive the weapon to go with, but according to Rawr (I'm not even sure whether I'm using it correctly) and this post it is the opposite. Am I missing out on something?