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Old 03/09/09, 4:14 PM   #2726
Infuri
Von Kaiser
 
Orc Shaman
 
Dalaran
Originally Posted by Ezareth View Post
Noted, although I wouldn't take toughness for a PVP buildmyself as it costs me 10 yards on flame shock and 18% Crit bonus to lava burst, as well as Eye of the storm which is somewhat useful.

I'll be using the following with my PVP Build next patch:

Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft

With the Glyphs:
Glyph of Stoneclaw Totem
Glyph of Hex
Glyph of Flameshock
Here's actually what I'm thinking of running that gives up -10% damage while stunned/feared/silenced, but gains 8% stam, 25% duration of snares; idea being 8% stam all the time is better than 10% less damage when CCed.
http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?sham...6&version=9614

Also, in terms of the upcoming changes announced, my guess is that they'll make it so thunderstorm also disarms for 10 seconds. Their way of balancing melee seems to be of giving more disarms to different classes, and this would actually be a pretty nice peel.

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Old 03/09/09, 5:04 PM   #2727
xp00hx
 
Dwarf Death Knight
 
Azjol-Nerub
Dear simple questions. I'm a Long time lurker!

I have a gear related conundrum. I understand what i need, but I am stuck with what to put in my neck slot.

First My DK

A little info, I just started raiding naxx with my guild.

I am not looking for spec advice, i do 3700dps + on PW.

I'm not really able to get to 25man naxx right now, and i don't plan on doing it.

This is a gear question.

My current neck slot is the [Gold Amulet of Kings] Gold Amulet of Kings.

I am thinking about replacing it with [Collar of Dissolution] Collar of Dissolution.

Things i know, i get more ap from str. We don't currently have a pally for kings, but we will. I hope. I am planning on getting the Circle of death (33exp) and the Bracers of Lost Sentiment (38 exp) and the Ring of Kirin'Tor (31exp) I am a dwarf using a Titansteel Bonecruncher which is 29exp and 5solid for the macespec.

Firstly my spec has very few actual melee based abilities. Pre and post 3.1 i use 4unholy strikes and 2 blood strikes every 20seconds. Any dodged abilities messes my dps up badly because my spec is build on using as much runic power per 10 seconds as possible.

So my question is, which neck should i be shooting for. I havent seen any new STR necks in 3.1 so I am a little wobbly on which piece i should b e putting in that slot.

Stay with my gold neck, or go for the coller of disolution?

Can you explain to me why? Thanks!

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Old 03/09/09, 6:50 PM   #2728
Myul
Don Flamenco
 
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Dwarf Hunter
 
Eredar (EU)
You could use a castsequence macro,

/castsequence = chimera shot, arcane shot, aimed shot, steady shot, steady shot, steady shot, arcane shot, chimera shot, steady shot, aimed shot, [...]

But if you only move once you will mess up the priorities, since it simple follow the sequence and don't use the spells on cooldown.

Another way is to use a castrandom macro. There are no priorities and you really have to spam click the button. A warning, with manual weaving in your shots your dps will be significantly higher. Only valueable on fights, where you can't spend attention to your cooldowns - but i can't imagine of such a fight yet, and really recommend using addons like power auras or move your bars to the center to actually see your cooldowns.

A possible option for this:
/castrandom chimera shot, aimed shot, arcane shot, kill shot
/cast steady shot

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Old 03/09/09, 7:11 PM   #2729
Deimoz
Glass Joe
 
Undead Death Knight
 
Shattered Halls
New talent tree builds go!

FROST > http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?deat...4&version=9658

UNHOLY > http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?deat...4&version=9658

BLOOD? > http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?deat...4&version=9658

Just thought it would be nice to get some brainstorming going on what looks good come 3.1... my bet is Frost. Anyone care to share some thoughts?

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Old 03/09/09, 7:27 PM   #2730
Liania
Banned
 
Blood Elf Warlock
 
Mazrigos (EU)
No wonder you get out dps'ed. None of your gear is gemmed or enchanted. And you got immortal titel... Carried much ? lol

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Old 03/09/09, 7:51 PM   #2731
DWeidman
Von Kaiser
 
Tauren Death Knight
 
Dragonblight
Originally Posted by Deimoz View Post
New talent tree builds go!

BLOOD? > http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?deat...4&version=9658

Just thought it would be nice to get some brainstorming going on what looks good come 3.1... my bet is Frost. Anyone care to share some thoughts?
This is somewhat early - as we don't really know how to spec for Uldar:

That said - I think this is a significantly better Blood build:

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?deat...4&version=9658

This one picks up Unholy Blight for AOE and RP dump.

Death Strike should hit like a truck with all the modifiers (glyph included).

Honestly though - until we know what we need to survive in Uldar - and with the rather drastic changes made in recent weeks to the PTR - it isn't worth a lot of theorycrafting yet. Wait until some of the dust settles.

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Old 03/09/09, 8:15 PM   #2732
Dopesick
 
Gnome Mage
 
Lothar
Originally Posted by Phlug View Post
Or the stoner mage that can't commit to show up enough, if at all.

We're also too lazy to capture towers... sorry!

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Old 03/09/09, 11:11 PM   #2733
Varlak
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Death Knight
 
Llane
beeing able to have a raid spec and a PvP spec ( for my casual BG/ arena trip) will make me dump the 1k gold to get the dual spec.

Is till think that blizzard asking us to spend 1k+ gold on everything in WotLK (even to let me use a flying that I already spent 6k gold to get) is ?&T/?& me

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Old 03/10/09, 12:30 AM   #2734
Zuel
Von Kaiser
 
Night Elf Druid
 
Burning Legion
Originally Posted by Varlak View Post
beeing able to have a raid spec and a PvP spec ( for my casual BG/ arena trip) will make me dump the 1k gold to get the dual spec.

Is till think that blizzard asking us to spend 1k+ gold on everything in WotLK (even to let me use a flying that I already spent 6k gold to get) is ?&T/?& me
If you don't think you'll use the dual spec feature enough to make it worth it, don't buy it. No one is forcing you to, and you can still re-spec the normal way for 50g a pop.

If, on the other hand, you re-spec often and would appreciate the convenience of the dual spec feature, 1000 gold is probably a wise investment.

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Old 03/10/09, 1:53 AM   #2735
Yeda
Von Kaiser
 
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Undead Warlock
 
Dragonmaw (EU)
Yup, thats about it Xeephran

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Old 03/10/09, 2:05 AM   #2736
Bronks
Glass Joe
 
Tauren Druid
 
Mug'thol
Originally Posted by Ashaera View Post
@Bronks
Go download Omen, find 1 friend & you have your answer in about 5minutes.
Downloading it now

Last edited by Bronks : 03/10/09 at 2:33 AM.

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Old 03/10/09, 2:12 AM   #2737
Deimoz
Glass Joe
 
Undead Death Knight
 
Shattered Halls
Glad to get some discussion started, i will admit that the specs i posted were a bit hasty. I was actually at work when i posted it... that being said im glad i made a few mistakes because it actually grabbed some people attention enough to get responses! Which btw was the entire reason i posted, even if its too early to make any definite calls as to what talents we cant live without i would however like to argue that we need to keep at least brainstorming. Glad to get such quick responses ;D

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Old 03/10/09, 2:24 AM   #2738
DWeidman
Von Kaiser
 
Tauren Death Knight
 
Dragonblight
Originally Posted by Deimoz View Post
Glad to get some discussion started, ... Which btw was the entire reason i posted, even if its too early to make any definite calls as to what talents we cant live without i would however like to argue that we need to keep at least brainstorming. Glad to get such quick responses ;D
This probably isn't the right thread to crap on for this discussion - as it really doesn't have anything to do with DK endgame tanking. I would recommend the posts be moved or deleted (mine included) - so we don't wreck the this thread with a guessing tangent.

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Old 03/10/09, 2:33 AM   #2739
smulch
Von Kaiser
 
Blood Elf Mage
 
Magtheridon
Originally Posted by Thalur View Post
This is wrong, and shows you did not read the last posts that show the opposite. Your dps is higher while BL is active, but you shorten the execute time and in the end your overall dps is the same as if you pop BL at the beginning.

Please read the other posts first and try to understand why you do not get more dps that way. The spreadsheet of Enthorn might also be of help here, since it visualizes the problem.
wrong.

If everyone would gain a dps buff when the boss reach 35%, it would be true however. But since not everyone get a dps increase at that point, you get more benefit under 35% than above 35%.

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Old 03/10/09, 8:36 AM   #2740
cidica
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Paladin
 
Stormreaver
Wanted to say thank you Shandara for keeping this spreadsheet going like you have. Great work

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Old 03/10/09, 9:42 AM   #2741
zerochance
Banned
 
Undead Rogue
 
Karazhan (EU)
thanks for the post

There are no top end maces?

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Old 03/10/09, 9:43 AM   #2742
zerochance
Banned
 
Undead Rogue
 
Karazhan (EU)
thanks

very useful.

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Old 03/10/09, 9:44 AM   #2743
zerochance
Banned
 
Undead Rogue
 
Karazhan (EU)
make sure you play full screen, helps with the directx.

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Old 03/10/09, 9:44 AM   #2744
zerochance
Banned
 
Undead Rogue
 
Karazhan (EU)
Why can't people just get thaddius?

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Old 03/10/09, 9:47 AM   #2745
zerochance
Banned
 
Undead Rogue
 
Karazhan (EU)
They were a good set of heriocs.

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Old 03/10/09, 9:50 AM   #2746
zerochance
Banned
 
Undead Rogue
 
Karazhan (EU)
greed + grasscutter - COMBAT

vs

flesshape + knife of incision - MUT

which is better for dps?

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Old 03/10/09, 9:53 AM   #2747
zerochance
Banned
 
Undead Rogue
 
Karazhan (EU)
hahah

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Old 03/10/09, 12:04 PM   #2748
Shodan30
Banned
 
Undead Warlock
 
<HRU>
Kael'thas
If I wanted to buff my imp in a 53/0/15 + 3 build , what mixture of Demoic power and improved imp would be the most effective for dps? (Please ignore the added blood pact benefits, this is a Pure dps question).

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Old 03/10/09, 2:33 PM   #2749
wileyclaw
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Druid
 
Stormreaver
Originally Posted by Rijndael View Post
Slow stacking has been defined multiple times in this thread, the last time in my post on the same page as your post. Ideally, you always let it bloom at 3 stacks to get the mana refund.
Found them, thanks! Lrn2Srch!

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Old 03/10/09, 2:54 PM   #2750
Cube
Piston Honda
 
Night Elf Druid
 
Dark Iron
EDIT: Posted by multiple. Nuke from orbit, please.

Last edited by Cube : 03/10/09 at 2:56 PM. Reason: DELETE ME!

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