I have been reading this thread since December of 2009 trying to make head or tales of the thing and honestly I am having a rough time getting my DPS higher than 6k with a GS of 5629 (depends on fight of course, did 11k in VoA once). There are just too many old posts that I have to wade through and test myself to get to the good stuff. It would be nice to start a new thread.

The starting post for this thread was done so awesome as far as how thorough and complete it was for its time. But I am of the same opinion the thread is outdated and that the patches (gear, talent tree changes, talent tree tweaks, etc.) since the start of the thread make demonology different enough justify the start of a new thread.

Hey i have a quick question, i have search in the foru and didnt find any thing. how much arp should a combat rogue have, i know the cap is 1400, but really i think when i am above 1200 should i start thinking of getting hit or keep arp untill 1400 and then go for hit.

So as disc priest you only need to spam shield?
Raided last night for the 1st time this year all the disc priest did was spam PW:S and some pom that can't be the way can it?
Also last time i checked int was the way to go and not spirit +sp gems

With new gear my expertise dropped to 22 (186). Should I gem for expertise? I've checked potions and food and looks like it will be better to gem red expertise +20 and eat AP than gem AP and eat expertise. What should I do?

with gear alone im 10 over hit cap, no hit gems ect. i really would like to move to an affliction spec, but suppression is not needed. where should i move those 3 points too? no doubt someone has had this question answered already, but ive been unable to find it. If you could, enlighten me please.

Keep in mind that Suppression also provides a mana cost reduction. I don't know about the rest of the people here, but I find Affliction to be somewhat draining on my mana.

Anyway, to answer your question, ... fel concentration? It could prove to be situationally useful with the AOE thrown around in some fights. Personally, I don't see anything wrong with keeping the 6% mana reduction from suppression.

Has anyone looked at the new Revitalize? I did some rough numbers and this is what I came up with with today's gear and stats mixed with the talents of cataclysm.

The 4.0 Alpha Revitalize reads: You gain 3% of your base mana anytime one of your Regrowth or Lifebloom's periodic ticks critically hit.

So let's see how much Mp5 this would give us in today's world(3.3.3).
For example in some of today's gear you would have 38.36% spell haste and 28.16% spell crit fully raid buffed, HOWEVER minus the 13.3% spell haste we get from our current talents that are, for the moment, going away.
Regrowth normally ticks every 3 sec, Lifebloom every 1 sec. Apply the aforementioned haste to these spells and you come up with: Regrowth ticks every 1.8492 sec, and Lifebloom ticks every 0.6164 sec.
Apply the above crit to these new tick times and you get: 0.2816 Regrowth crits per 1.8492 sec, and 0.2816 Lifebloom crits per 0.6164 sec.
Base mana for a druid at level 80 is 3496, so 3% of that being 104.88 mana.
So with Regrowth you are getting 104.88 mana 0.2816 times per 1.8492 sec, and you are getting 104.88 mana 0.2816 times per 0.6164 sec with Lifebloom.
For Regrowth this equates to 29.5342 mana per 1.8492 sec, and for Lifebloom this equates to 29.5342 mana per 0.6164 sec.

Boiling all this down: Regrowth will give you 15.9713 mana per sec or 79.8567 Mp5. Lifebloom will give you 47.914 mana per sec or 239.57 Mp5.

If you got 1% more crit you would get 16.5385 mana per sec or 82.6925 Mp5 from Regrowth, and 49.6155 mana per sec or 248.078 Mp5 from Lifebloom.
Increasing your crit by 1% would yield in a 2.83582 Mp5(3.55114%) increase from Regrowth and a 8.50755 Mp5(3.55118%) increase from Lifebloom.
If you got 1% more haste you would get a 1.8192 sec Regrowth, and a 0.6064 sec Lifebloom. Giving you 16.2347 mana per sec or 81.1736 Mp5 from Regrowth, and 48.7042 mana per sec or 243.521 Mp5 from Lifebloom.
Increasing your haste by 1% would yield in a 1.31689 Mp5(1.64907%) increase from Regrowth and a 3.95078 Mp5(1.64911%) increase from Lifebloom.

It takes 45.91 rating to get 1% crit. So for every 1 crit rating you gain you also gain 0.061769 Mp5 from Regrowth and 0.185309 Mp5 from Lifebloom.
It takes 32.79 rating to get 1% haste. So for every 1 haste rating you gain you also gain 0.040161 Mp5 from Regrowth and 0.120487 Mp5 from Lifebloom.

So in conclusion this talent turns both haste and crit into minor regen stats.

I had to decide over a piece of gear that i wanted for my level 40 blood elf paladin. On one hand the helmet I bought had +24 strength and 421 armor. On the other hand the helmet I had already had 10 strength, 10 stamina, and a 14 critical rating. What piece is more suited for a dps paladin?

Alright I have uploaded over 740 screenshots of zone updates and have caught almost everything I could.

I did not take many screenshots of zones that have not yet received many of their changes yet. These zones are:

Moonglade
Winterspring
Silithus
Hillsbrad
Arathi
Hinterlands
Searing Gorge
Deathwing Scar
Dun Morogh
Deadwind
Redridge
Elwynn

Zone images are here:

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I also have gone through the models and have uploaded the new models that I have found so far. Some are known already but many are either untextured or do not yet have their animations. They are named roughly the same way they are in the game files.

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I tested it over 1000 casts and each time it was directly on the expected crit rate.

the 2pc T9 does infact allow you to keep the bonus spirit/crit conversion.

Btw you guys are US 79. Silly catdips.