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Old 05/18/10, 4:08 PM   #16786
Xenni
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Troll Mage
 
Drak'Tharon
Any thoughts on http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/54569/s...wilight-scale/ guys? Over DC Heroic?

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Old 05/18/10, 4:15 PM   #16787
rajaxxsub
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Blood Elf Mage
 
Rajaxx (EU)
sorry, but i miss the general fire 3.3.3 thread..

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Old 05/18/10, 4:20 PM   #16788
Masterdragon
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Orc Hunter
 
Mal'Ganis
Originally Posted by Darthjader View Post
I feel that glyph of serpent sting may be a waste to carry. If Chimera Shot refreshes it why would SrS need to last six seconds longer?Is this logic wrong? I was thinking glyph of volley for PvE or glyph of aspect of the viper.
The glyph isn't taken for the duration increase. Its taken because the glyph doesn't change the tick value and just adds an additional 2 ticks to SrS. By that value, SrS is increased in total damage done by 40%. Chimera Shot - Serpent deals 40% of the total damage that SrS does. If your increasing SrS's total damage through the glyph, then your also increasing the total damage that Chimera Shot - Serpent does.

Example:
You apply a 5000 damage Serpent Sting on the target over 15s. This gives you a 5 x 1000 damage per 3 second tick rate. Chimera Shot - Serpent deals 40% of 5000 or 2000 damage.
Take the same serpent sting and add the glyph to it. You now have a 7000 damage Serpent Sting on the target over 21s or a 7 x 1000 damage per 3 seconds tick rate. Chimera Shot - Serpent deals 40% of 7000 or 2800 damage, an increase of 40% damage.

The glyph of SrS increases the damage of Chimera Shot - Serpent by 40%.

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Old 05/18/10, 4:42 PM   #16789
Ketrew
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Worgen Death Knight
 
Tichondrius
Originally Posted by Glutton View Post
Well, that's disappointing. The Ruby Sanctum melee trinket is going to have static ArmP on it in addition to the AP proc. The ilvl 284 version will be a 22 DPS upgrade over ilvl 258 Death's Choice, but the ilvl 271 version will be a 75 DPS downgrade.
Wow, total disappointment. I suppose the chances of Blizzard making any adjustments to this item are slim to none at this point.

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Old 05/18/10, 5:21 PM   #16790
Necula
 
Blood Elf Hunter
 
Stormrage (EU)
Downloaded 93j tonight and the regemmer wants me to change all my agility gems to arp gems.

I'm SV specced so surely Agility is the correct option or is ARP really the way forward?

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Old 05/18/10, 5:24 PM   #16791
SkullSk
 
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Draenei Death Knight
 
No WoW Account (EU)
Hi,

I have one question. If are in raid two Enhancement shamans they will steal stormstrike debuff to each other ? Or how does it work ?

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Old 05/18/10, 5:27 PM   #16792
Arzja
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Draenei Shaman
 
Shadowsong (EU)
Originally Posted by SkullSk View Post
Hi,

I have one question. If are in raid two Enhancement shamans they will steal stormstrike debuff to each other ? Or how does it work ?
The Stormstrike debuff only counts for your own spells.

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Old 05/18/10, 5:56 PM   #16793
benny32
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Blood Elf Paladin
 
Icecrown
I'm not sure I could be more disappointed with the melee trinket. It sucks that bis is in a raid that never gets ran any more and I had the worst luck with that thing when it was getting ran so I must resign myself to never seeing it.

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Old 05/18/10, 5:56 PM   #16794
Jhaze
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Draenei Death Knight
 
Hakkar (EU)
Originally Posted by Xenni View Post
Any thoughts on http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/54569/s...wilight-scale/ guys? Over DC Heroic?
if it is 15/45 like greatness and dc,obviously yes.
I think heroic version will be better also then dbw hero (and in fact,is less rng dependant,so maybe even normal version will pull over dbw hero).

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Old 05/18/10, 7:55 PM   #16795
Hinalover
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Pandaren Monk
 
Kil'Jaeden
Originally Posted by Nuke1096 View Post
If that's true, then I am 10x more stoked for Uldum than I already was. C'thun is my favorite warcraft encounter yet. Where is that info coming from?
Content removed. Love, Carebare.

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Old 05/18/10, 8:26 PM   #16796
KoubtheHuntar
 
Night Elf Hunter
 
Akama
So I finally caved and came to Elitist Jerks to ask a bunch of questions about this stupid Marksmen crap. I'm a firm believer in the fact that SV, if done correctly can keep up in raids. Maybe not top the charts but keep up Which I've been able to do. I'm all the gear I have are ICC drops or the FB buyable items and the craftable boots.

Anyways, I'm having trouble after respeccing to Marksmen to bring in the ultra deeps that I've seen from players with equal or lesser gear. I have 562 passive ArP, and the Needle Encrusted Scorpion from H FoS. My DPS in heroics just doesn't seem to be as high as I would think it should be. I've seen people in equal to or lesser gear pulling 6-8k dps easy. While I'm stuck pulling 5-7k dps. 7k only under complete and utter perfection between hero and all procs up.
Needle Encrusted Scorpion seems to have a really low uptime.

I was wondering if it would be a better idea to regem the agility I have to ArP which is roughly another 140 ArP which would take me up to 700 passive armor pen and just replace needle encrusted scorpion with something like Death's Verdict or the 25 ICC trinket the drops off LDW.

My rotation is as follows
Serpent>Chimera>Aimed+silence>Steady
Using Kill Shot when it's up and alternating Steady and Auto until Chimera is off CD.
Advice please?

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Old 05/18/10, 9:51 PM   #16797
trs321
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Draenei Death Knight
 
Llane
I've tried to fish through the search for the anwser but why does the BiS list have terrible expertise?

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Old 05/18/10, 11:11 PM   #16798
Artamier
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Orc Rogue
 
Firetree
I would like to throw this up there i seen some players are testing out 2H frost with full Arp, and saying thats its plenty viable. Just wondering if you would roll with a GoD build or not, or apply dieases every rotation. I seen most builds going into sub blood. so that no epidimic for GoD. A thought anyone?

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Old 05/18/10, 11:13 PM   #16799
Steisi
 
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Night Elf Hunter
 
Ravencrest (EU)
Originally Posted by KoubtheHuntar View Post
My rotation is as follows
Serpent>Chimera>Aimed+silence>Steady
Using Kill Shot when it's up and alternating Steady and Auto until Chimera is off CD.
Advice please?
I would suggest you try using the spreadsheet found in the forums, or the femaledwarf.com equivalent to check out how much dps you should be dishing out. I also suggest you should macro silencing shot, kill command to every shot you have, so you won't be losing either of the cooldowns. NES is pretty awful due to it's inner cd, and I suggest you replace it with Whispering Fanged Skull, Death's Verdict/Choice asap, if possible, and start gemming ArP when the spreadsheet tells you it's more beneficial to you than agility.

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Old 05/19/10, 12:17 AM   #16800
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Al'Akir (EU)
Haste/Mp5

I prefer for haste/mp5 more

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