As the OP said, there's no true rotation as procs can and will mess things up. There's a priority system instead. He even attached a diagram with the priority though it's obsolete now since most people seem to use GoD. I'll try and prepare an updated one later on.

Please ignore this, I misunderstood something.

hi a bit of a noob when it comes to this forum , but have found everything i need using the site many thanks for that , if i may ask though with bm what are the best top line enchants to use on your gear i have browsed all pages to this thread and cannot find any info on this 1 thing that is bugging me , many thanks in advance for your reply *humbly bows*

I'm only getting like a 10 DPS increase from all AP gems to all ArP gems (excluding my 4 expertise gems and Nightmare Tear/orange gem to activate meta)..

@Stormspire, I use the same enchants that are +/- universal hunter enchants (ie; Agi+AP), but again I never tested/tried anything else. It also helps if you switch to SV or MM.

PS: @alienangel if you are refering to me as the "she", I am a male :P

why is my dps lower than it should be? im really running out of things to blame >,>

i do a couple of things differently to what most other people are doing but nothing too strange

my opening rotation most of the time depending on the boss is:

Aimed Shot -> Steady Shot -> Call of the Wild -> Serpent Sting -> Chimera Shot -> Rapid Fire/Readiness -> Chimera Shot -> Aimed Shot and after that it's just a regular shot priority rotation

the reason why i feel this is necessary is:

1. both my trinkets are +ap and they share no kind of shared internal cooldown or shared proc cooldown, generally after an Aimed Shot and Steady Shot both my trinkets have procced, giving me 10% of my total ap including from the extra 2350 ap, and also giving me the optimum amount of time to use my most powerful shots under the influence of my strongest buff cooldowns

2. the Rapid Fire timing is pretty convenient, most fights i can pop my second from readiness just before both my procs come back up, but if i can't im still getting them early into the fight and there's no great loss

3. Aimed Shot comes before Steady Shot because if for whatever reason i can't do a cooldown zerg with beefed up ap serpent sting my Aimed Shot will come up quicker and allow more movement a five or so seconds into the encounter, which is generally when it's required most

4. im planning to switch to troll eventually which will give me a buffer between the important Rapid Fire usage times of point 2.

5. everything proccing together is such a huge bonus and i feel the way im using my cooldowns the probability of getting maximum bonus or maximum end bonus is increased pretty drastically

i don't really have any solid maths behind anything i do, but i don't believe it's a flaw in that, i have a feeling it's a gear issue or i just have unrealistic expectations of what my dps should be, the highest ive gone on festergut is about 11-11.5k (i think) with a few amazing procs increasing my dps hugely, min/max buff potions, food and two crit/sp potions (for the crit obviously)

im fairly new to pve and most of the encounters im doing right now are completely new encounters, this week i cleared the last five bosses in icc and after a few attempts on LK we decided to do it in a few nights when it's less late but on certain fights my dps i feel could be a few thousand higher, 14k on blood queen hardmode with the bite, 9k on lich king first phase, 8-9k on saurfang (i have no idea, did 9.5k in survival in worse gear :S), etc

a few other things to note: im australian (with lowerping, so 250 latency most of the time) and my computer is absolutely terrible, i can't even do 25m at this point; ill be very lucky to have 20 fps in 10m, normally it sits around 14-16 or so, i don't use a ridiculous amount of addons, i don't click and my bindings are decent (yes, two bindings for certain abilities, thanks kripp ;d)

that's pretty much it i think, ill update or edit if required

im pretty clueless, i joined this forum yesterday so im unsure if im even posting this in the right thread or if people are interested in helping at all, but any advice or criticism would be greatly appreciated ;D

what's wrong with my dps, elitistjerks?

Our guild recently did Ulduar again just for the fun of it as we didnt have the players for decent LK HC tries.
Because i have a frost DPS as secondary specc for our 10man runs where we dont always have replenishment we thought it would be fun to go frost while we clear this old content.

As always Hodir is a fun place to show off your DPS and High critts I really enjoyed our warlocks cries of tears when they saw my 164k Critt with Deep Freeze

Though i only managed to end up 4th on the list i was still above all the warlocks.


Other then this though in my experience frost isnt justified for most encounters. But since i can still pull off 8-10k DPS on a normal encounter in ICC it is at least viable if your group needs it. And it is fun to use different speccs now and then

Well its an interesting arguement with the GCD statement but I consistently pull more Total damage and DPS with COA over Doom including the GCD down time so I still don't see the benefit of this. Niether do the other Locks on my server. We all get the same result. Doom = less damage total in pretty much any scenario I've run it in.

Just my .02 thx.

It's not really an arguement, its factual information, Play with the Simulationcraft tool and see for yourself. CoD is an undeniable DPS gain over CoA, unless CoD doesn't have time to go off before the mob will die.

Perhaps the use of your

Ashen Band of Endless Wisdom - Item - World of Warcraft

is altering your result, hmm?

My newest UI. C&C welcome!

Baby priest healing:




Randomizing on my main (yes, I know my combat log isn't in the right place on this shot, I have fixed the not-staying-put thing since then):