Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 1133

art3d · 05/27/10, 6:51 AM

Hello guys!

I am very new to this part of druid thread, and I have a question.

Could someone with LK25HM kill report on successfull cooldown rotations for soul reaper? Is FR(glyphed) + TotGC trinket enough to cover soul reaper? Survival Instincs(glyphed) is it enough on it's own? Forgive my noobish questions, I've gone through whole thread but could not find an answer.

PS rotating Barkskin & Enrage like someone here suggested is obviously not enough.

sunbeam · 05/27/10, 6:52 AM

yah, but i mean, it used to prefer 20str gem in those gear above that 10str10crit, but now in my setup, the socket match with +4agi bonus is rated higher then the 20str gem

Rammurg · 05/27/10, 7:16 AM

Originally Posted by sunbeam

yah, but i mean, it used to prefer 20str gem in those gear above that 10str10crit, but now in my setup, the socket match with +4agi bonus is rated higher then the 20str gem

Rawr used to suggest a 20str on yellow sockets with a 4agi bonus for me as well, but Shadowmourne brought a 10str 10crit slightly ahead.

SM brought crit's worth in general slightly upwards - the agi versions of several items (Winding Sheet vs. Shadowvault Slayer's Cloak for example) jumped from being a ~2-10 dps upgrade from the Str equivalents to a ~25-35dps upgrade.

Daehauq · 05/27/10, 8:01 AM

Originally Posted by Pwnzi

Random question and a bit off-topic... Can someone explain the math behind taking +15 strength to gloves over 44AP?

Str EP > Crusher/Major Strength
Str EP > 44 / 15
Str EP > 2.9333..

Derfal · 05/27/10, 8:11 AM

You could also ask the other resto shammy to help out with the interupts - Wind shear is off the GCD and damage prevented >> damage healed.

Gaarok · 05/27/10, 8:41 AM

I think it could still be "useful" for one thing : Thorns buffing.
Of course it's a marginal raid DPS gain, but still a gain

I guess I'll buy this idol some day and try it.

Rider_TT · 05/27/10, 8:53 AM

Originally Posted by mokg

- World of Warcraft Client Patch 3.2.2 (2009-09-22)

- Relics: All buffs provided by relics (idols, librams, totems and
sigils) now share an exclusive category such that gaining a buff
from one of these items will remove all other buffs gained from
items in this category.

Suddenly, I feel alone

Rammurg · 05/27/10, 11:06 AM

Regarding the SP Idol trick:

Although the buff will be overwritten by [Idol of the Lunar Eclipse]'s buff as soon as your first DoT ticks, won't you still gain the SP bonus for that DoT and the 1-2 nukes you get off before it does ?

Of course, it's still an abysmal gain.

Smoketreez · 05/27/10, 11:13 AM

1: Barkskin/Enrage
2: Survival Instincts/Pain Suppression
3: Barkskin/Enrage
4: Frenzied Regeneration/Juggernaut's Vitality
5: Barkskin/Enrage
6: Pain Suppression

End of phase.

We run two Discipline Priests for this fight and our off-tank is a Protection Warrior; so I'm getting Intervenes (with Safeguard) every Soul Reaper on top of the cooldowns.

I'm in full stamina gear with Sindragosa's Flawless Fang/Juggernaut's Vitality (Heroic) for trinkets. Sitting at about 88k health with the 20% buff and ~42k armor.

Hope this helped.

-The Treez

paulsen · 05/27/10, 11:30 AM

(shameless bump to keep the thread from disappearing since it's over 1 month since last post, hope it's ok).

seemore · 05/27/10, 11:45 AM

does anyone know how much is the difference in dps (or in percentage) between the normal TAiaJ and the heroic one? (with shadowmourne if that matters)
normal one shows around 4% of the total damage by the logs i have seen.

Skullbound · 05/27/10, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by frazeebd

You are using SoA which weighs your DPS heavily toward OB, whereas a universal str buff from Virulence or Hanged Man would weigh towards melee.

Actually I have the same problem and I use sigil of hanged and I'm not gemmed for arpen. Thing is I also used recount since my guildies didn't put up the wol

Starfox · 05/27/10, 2:12 PM

Originally Posted by Rammurg

Regarding the SP Idol trick:

Although the buff will be overwritten by [Idol of the Lunar Eclipse]'s buff as soon as your first DoT ticks, won't you still gain the SP bonus for that DoT and the 1-2 nukes you get off before it does ?

Of course, it's still an abysmal gain.

you lose the buff at the same time you unequip the idol, you could have easily tested it yourself.

Kurb · 05/27/10, 2:36 PM

Which is the best trinket combination for fireball spec?
1.) Heroic Dislodged Foreign Object (277)/Phylactery of the Nameless Lich (264)
2.) Heroic Dislodged Foreign Object (277)/Heroic Muradin's Spyglass (264)
3.) Phylactery of the Nameless Lich (264)/Heroic Muradin's Spyglass (264)

I checked RAWR and it shows Muradin's as being better then Phylactery, but that's only because it has a constant spellpower buff that could fall off at any time. I feel that it's not accurate when it says that... Can anyone confirm?
Also, it would seem that combining Phylactery and Muradin's would be the most optimal way to go as fire simply because they both have a substantial amount of crit, but you lose the amazing proc that Dislodged has. If anyone can just tell me which combination is the best, I'd greatly appreciate it!

thanks, Influx (Cho'gall)

Shadowpete · 05/27/10, 2:41 PM

Hi, long time reader, first time poster.

I've recently gemmed 23 spell power in a yellow socket in my frost needle heroic, the bonus is only 4 haste and in the past only gemmed for bonuses in yellow with bonuses of > 4sp or 6 haste.

However on reading in the affliction thread at around 3300sp sp/haste gems = sp gems. So with around 3160 without fel armor, should I be gemming sp/haste gems in yellow regardless of the bonus?

Thanks.