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Old 06/09/10, 1:26 AM   #17251
arctiK
 
Night Elf Druid
 
Destromath
I apologize in advance if this has been asked before, but I was curious as to how you guys handle the frostmourne room for H LK 25. We've wiped twice at 13% and once at 11% and both times it was because people somehow ended up dead right as we were about to port up from the room. Obviously we starfall as we get into the room but I wanted to know what you guys do after that. In our 11% attempt, we were down a healer so I ended up rejuving as many people as I could while typhooning on cooldown after starfall was done. Do you guys moonfire the Wicked Spirits or IS them or let the other ranged worry about them?

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Old 06/09/10, 2:32 AM   #17252
toridias
 
Night Elf Druid
 
Zenedar (EU)
i guess you all stack up on a melee that guides you around. And as you said it's typhoon +starfall after that. I usually cast wrath on anything that is close after that. Don't think that moonfire kills them immediatly. Of course your cast will get interrupted some times because somebody else nuked it

if people die inside it's because they're not stacking correctly/stacking target slacks or ghosts are getting through. Even the last few seconds are very important in frostmourne room.

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Old 06/09/10, 3:27 AM   #17253
Schädel
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Paladin
 
Gul'dan (EU)
Rawr 2.3.18 tells me to use Fierce Ametrines in yellow sockets when using Shadowmourne. The DPS gain would be ~1 DPS per gem. Is it possible that str/haste gems outperforms str/crit gems? When I think of Freeme for more Chaos Bane Proccs, getting Motes faster and proccing 2pt10 more often it's easier to comprehend for me.

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Old 06/09/10, 3:47 AM   #17254
kamap
Glass Joe
 
Gnome Mage
 
Defias Brotherhood (EU)
Well thats assuming that 50% of ignite gets munched which is quite alot and probably to high.
On some occassions it might indeed be better, with alot of haste for a long period of time, so that the extra spells you can push out in the gcd's not used to cast living bomb, are the same or higher as the dmg living bomb would have done.

But for the moment the best "rotation" is still the one that uses living bomb, we are also considering a stand and nuke fight atm, but with living bomb doing dmg and be "castable" on the move its even more interesting to use living bomb.

Another point towards living bomb, if you have any of these trinkets (phylactery of the nameless lich, disloged foreign object or muradins spyglass) if you cast living bomb on the last second of DFO it gets the extra spellpower for the whole duration of living bomb, same with phylactery, with muradin's spyglass you'll have less chance it will run out when you are stunned / spiked / tear gassed cause the ticks and the explosion reset the timer. Here we should look if it would be more interesting to cast an extra fireball or a living bomb (though when you have 2 seconds left on the buff and living bomb just went boom but your fb cast is longer then 2 sec its better to reaplly living bomb first cause you will still have time for that fb under the buff)

Yes the munching is annoying. Yes, you should be doing more dmg. But atm there is nothing we can do, cause blizzard has tried to fix it a few times, but I think they ran out of idea's and are gonna rework it in cataclysm. So for the moment, don't think about the munching and let it go.

Rawr has indeed "all" the answers but that shouldn't stop us from discussing and thinking of other ways to utilize all the tools we have. If we start counting on programs and machines to much and let our brains slide, what will happen if the program is discontinued / goes kaput / becomes aware and goes skynet on our ass.

The machines will take over, start stocking up on guns! (sorry for this but had a terminator marathon yesterday ^^ )

Last edited by kamap : 06/09/10 at 3:57 AM.

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Old 06/09/10, 5:55 AM   #17255
Kahrdis
 
Undead Warlock
 
Die Silberne Hand (EU)
Hey guys, fellow Warlocks,

Now that i'm back i'm playing my Warlock again i have few questions. Haven't played it for about 3 years. Before i raided most of the 70 content -sunwell and some bt.

I play my Warlock since June 2005, yeah before 1.08

So right now i'm gearing up in triumph gear while collecting some frost badges with random lfg's and weeklys.
I never had problems topping DPS Charts back in 60 and 70 content. But i'm really worried on this one!

My toon as of yesterday night: The World of Warcraft Armory - Kahrdis @ Die Silberne Hand - Profile

I'm only on 3k dps. This is terrible. I guess that's not what i'm supposed to do?

My rotation is:

Immolate > Incinerate > Chaos Bolt > Conflag > Immolate > Reapeat

On trash i usually COA them all then Spam SoC.


I read the initial post concerning glyphs but realy can't decide between Immolate and Imp (I use Incinerate and Conflag already). What's the highest DPS in 5s with 2 pc Guldan's?

Also, BIG CONCERN!

I'm sitting on nearly 20% hit. That's 3% too much!!
How do i get rid of it? Almost every piece of gear has hit on it. I barely can find anything that is decent and doesn't have hit on it...
Also, is 4 pc guldan's worth it? if so, i would get above 25% hit because robe and head is sitting in the bank.


Cheers

Last edited by Kahrdis : 06/09/10 at 7:29 AM.

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Old 06/09/10, 6:00 AM   #17256
Sarvius
Don Flamenco
 
Goblin Rogue
 
Maiev
Well, you're currently in a full darkmantle set. I think the spreadsheet senses that you're in vanilla wow gear and is suggesting AP because it's the most valuable.

Or maybe you logged out in the wrong gear right before asking an anonymous forum to help you troubleshoot. Who knows.

Redownload the spreadsheet. It's not likely there's something messed up with your openoffice itself; either the program you're using isn't compatible or it is. You might just have a corrupted spreadsheet.

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Old 06/09/10, 7:34 AM   #17257
Shelak
Glass Joe
 
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Blood Elf Death Knight
 
Arygos (EU)
Originally Posted by Kahrdis View Post
Also, BIG CONCERN!

I'm sitting on nearly 20% hit. That's 3% too much!!
How do i get rid of it?
Remove items with hit maybe? And while you´re at it, take a look at your leg and bracer enchant, chest and head sockets could be improved too.

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Old 06/09/10, 8:30 AM   #17258
aladezboara
 
Undead Rogue
 
Deathwing (EU)
hy folks...really nice stuff on this forum, learned a lot from reading...anyway i got a question for you:
atm i'm poision hit capped, exp capped, arp capped, and i was wondering what should i stack up next?
with the trinket from ruby sanctum, Sharpened Twilight Scale i will have to change a few arp gems and i was wondering if you got any suggestions...
on a crit calculator it says i need 61.13% crit and i'm capped...dunno if that is correct, if it is should i gem crit gems? ap?haste? ag maybe? or these combined?
cheers

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Old 06/09/10, 8:40 AM   #17259
Tinwhisker
Bald Bull
 
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Dwarf Rogue
 
Scarlet Crusade
Reaching the crit cap is not a goal. If you think it is, you've not been paying attention.

If you've reached the ArP cap as combat you should gem for whatever is your next highest EP stat which I guarantee is not crit. You'll have to use a spreadsheet or a simulator to figure out what you should gem for.


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Old 06/09/10, 8:44 AM   #17260
Kahrdis
 
Undead Warlock
 
Die Silberne Hand (EU)
Originally Posted by Shelak View Post
Remove items with hit maybe? And while you´re at it, take a look at your leg and bracer enchant, chest and head sockets could be improved too.
...and replace them with what? As far as i'm concerned i have some of the best items i can get with heroic 5s, on most slots. What's bad about my head/leg enchants?

Yeah, bracer enchant is shitty. I was leveling enchanting when i did them. I only have them since the ones from HoR, VH and Occulus never drop for me

What about chest? 10+ Stats or 10 mp5?

Last edited by Kahrdis : 06/09/10 at 8:54 AM.

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Old 06/09/10, 9:03 AM   #17261
aladezboara
 
Undead Rogue
 
Deathwing (EU)
ok then...i just have to wait for the spreadsheet to be updated with new items, cause i'm not that good with calculating stuff :P

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Old 06/09/10, 9:56 AM   #17262
arctiK
 
Night Elf Druid
 
Destromath
We put a mark over one of our tanks and follow him around the room since he's done it on 10 man a few times. Last night we were slightly melee heavy so that might have been a part of the problem. It was just disheartening when we lost 5 people the last 2 seconds of the frostmourne room and wiped cause he was doing 30000000% more damage lol. I also forgot to ask if other boomkins found unglyphed typhoon more beneficial than glyphed to knock back the spirits should
they get too close to the raid.

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Old 06/09/10, 10:08 AM   #17263
curii
Banned
 
Gnome Mage
 
Executus (EU)
Originally Posted by Cozur View Post
Pyroblast = 0,5 second cast time (GCD). 12.000 damage crits / 6.000 damage hits. 55% critical strike chance.
Living Bomb = 0,5 second cast time (GCD). Averaged at 8500 damage pr. Living Bomb applied.
GCD, at best, is 1sec.

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Old 06/09/10, 10:35 AM   #17264
reg0ner
Glass Joe
 
Undead Rogue
 
Arthas
Helps to log out in PVE gear but here goes:
Mavanas' BiS list:
Rogue DPS Simulation Spreadsheet

And a list without H.LK and offpieces.
Brotherbear's BiS offpiece list:
In-Depth Mutilate Cycle Analysis

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Old 06/09/10, 10:54 AM   #17265
Skulldancer
Banned
 
Human Paladin
 
Aerie Peak
is there a preferred rawr settings tutorial much like the ret preferred settings?

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