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Old 06/09/10, 11:46 AM   #17266
Jüice
Glass Joe
 
Human Rogue
 
Shadowmoon
Originally Posted by reg0ner View Post
Helps to log out in PVE gear but here goes:
Mavanas' BiS list:
Rogue DPS Simulation Spreadsheet

And a list without H.LK and offpieces.
Brotherbear's BiS offpiece list:
In-Depth Mutilate Cycle Analysis
Sorry about that, was doing arenas till late. Check now, PvE should be up.

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Old 06/09/10, 12:28 PM   #17267
Draugir
Glass Joe
 
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Night Elf Druid
 
Lightninghoof
Originally Posted by arctiK View Post
I also forgot to ask if other boomkins found unglyphed typhoon more beneficial than glyphed to knock back the spirits should they get too close to the raid.
I definitely find unglyphed typhoon to be useful if you're killing spirits. Between the knockback and the slow, it buys a lot of time for your ranged dps to kill them. Even in 25 man when we're doing the soak strat for spirits, I still use typhoon if I see a lot of them incoming to make sure none get past the soaker.

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Old 06/09/10, 12:40 PM   #17268
arctiK
 
Night Elf Druid
 
Destromath
I appreciate the quick replies toridias & Draugir. I'll definitely put all this into use and hope to post back soon with good news

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Old 06/09/10, 1:55 PM   #17269
PetiscoW
Glass Joe
 
Orc Warlock
 
Warsong
Originally Posted by Zakalwe View Post
Your second profile has no professions. The DPS loss is from the lack of mixology, not from the gear.
Yeah... that was the problem. thanks

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Old 06/09/10, 2:43 PM   #17270
RandomZero
Glass Joe
 
Undead Rogue
 
Vashj
Originally Posted by Sarvius View Post
Well, you're currently in a full darkmantle set. I think the spreadsheet senses that you're in vanilla wow gear and is suggesting AP because it's the most valuable.

Or maybe you logged out in the wrong gear right before asking an anonymous forum to help you troubleshoot. Who knows.

Redownload the spreadsheet. It's not likely there's something messed up with your openoffice itself; either the program you're using isn't compatible or it is. You might just have a corrupted spreadsheet.
Yeah I've already downloaded it numerous times..
I've had someone plug it my real gear and they get completely different recommendations, so there's something wrong with mine.

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Old 06/09/10, 2:49 PM   #17271
a|k
 
Blood Elf Rogue
 
Crushridge (EU)
Hi all. I looked around the thread but I found nothing and I also tried to watch all spredsheet, but nobody considers wrathful weapons
I have a simple question and i finally decided to post the question here hoping to clarify the doubts.
I'm geared all 264 and soketted all arpen, whit 20-51.
Now i have [Bloodvenom Blade] and today i bought [Wrathful Gladiator's Handaxe] whit arpen soket inside.
What is the best choise in your opinion?
I want to clarify that whit the Wrathfull my hit down to 269 from 315.
Thanks in advance.

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Old 06/09/10, 6:04 PM   #17272
Zarainthus
 
Orc Death Knight
 
Skullcrusher
Question.

Hello, I was wondering if you could go more into detail with your single target frost dw rotation. I'm a little puzzled from it still. Thanks.

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Old 06/09/10, 6:23 PM   #17273
bulldog2427
 
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Blood Elf Death Knight
 
The Underbog
Hey guys, I have always been a Blood DK, and after reading this post I am interested in switching to frost, but I am wondering if anyone has some high drop rate 1h weapons for me to start off with. If so it would be great!

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Old 06/09/10, 6:36 PM   #17274
Thellanas
 
Human Warrior
 
Silver Hand
ok i got a couple questions here.

First i was discussing gems with another person and he asked me if relentless meta was not better then chaotic meta for a warrior due to the use of a second blue gem. i honestly could not answer that because i have been trying to avoid getting into the mathematical side of wow for sometime. i am curious now though if he is correct.


I saw a post a while back that mentioned the idea of stealth rends as an effective addition to the fury rotation. I gave it a shot and it seemed it negatively affected my dps. i assume this was because i had not put points into the talent/was new to slipping it in my rotation. if this is a valid addition to my rotation would changing glyph of cleave for rend be a valuable switch?

At the moment i am geming for 100% up time. not going over armor pen cap with trinket proc and filling in any gem slots that would put me over with str gems so its all constantly effective. I was told that an armor pen trinket and armor pen gems to hit cap was the most effective layout for a warrior. i am kind of doubtful of this but i am working on getting the trinket off saurfang (hopefully heroic) to replace my NES and then going full armor pen gems to attempt to reach cap. i am curious if this is the right way to go, i don't want to bid and risk taking it from someone who needs it more then i do if its not as worthwhile as i would think.

Also what is the most effective pot for a fury warrior to use?

Last edited by Thellanas : 06/09/10 at 8:41 PM.

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Old 06/09/10, 7:28 PM   #17275
bulldog2427
 
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Blood Elf Death Knight
 
The Underbog
Just played around with it in PTR, and VERY happy with what I saw i can't wait to try it in live

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Old 06/09/10, 9:08 PM   #17276
deathsplague
Glass Joe
 
Orc Death Knight
 
Nazjatar
chaos bane

I just got my Shadowmourne and i remember reading about cancelaura on chaos bane. Does anyone know if this is the way to go or as a Dk we should just keep the buff?

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Old 06/09/10, 9:32 PM   #17277
Morbid-Hellscream
Glass Joe
 
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Goblin Death Knight
 
Hellscream
Originally Posted by deathsplague View Post
I just got my Shadowmourne and i remember reading about cancelaura on chaos bane. Does anyone know if this is the way to go or as a Dk we should just keep the buff?
I think about 5 pages back some tests came up with the conclusion that using a cancelaura macro was a dps loss, although small (~100 DPS). Canceling Chaos Bane is only an increase for ret pallies, since they build up stacks much faster.

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Old 06/09/10, 11:45 PM   #17278
Deathavenger182
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Rogue
 
Vashj
Originally Posted by Kaidagar View Post
EP= Equivalence Points
AEP= Agility Equivalence Points
AE= Agility Equivalence

The modeled you refer to I assume means the data reflected in one of the numerous spreadsheets located in this forum.

Have a quick read through this thread it may answer other questions you might have.
Pocket Guide to WOTLK (Updated for 3.3)
thanks!

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Old 06/10/10, 12:38 AM   #17279
grrkthekilla
Glass Joe
 
Human Warrior
 
Stormscale
I'm sure that this has probably been asked before somewhere in this thread, but I haven't ever gotten a precise decision of whether or to use a fast dagger in the MH and slow in OH vs. the other way around
and if it is better to go fast MH, do you still use deadly on it.
Thanks in advance.

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Old 06/10/10, 2:53 AM   #17280
Shinlao
Glass Joe
 
Troll Hunter
 
Ysera
am i jsut so tired i cant see it or is there not a load from armory buttom? little help plz

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