Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 1166

Palladia · 06/18/10, 1:41 AM

Originally Posted by Yetigeeze

Originally Posted by sollinton

I am sure this question has been answered before, but I have spent the last half hour searching through the threads and posts and I have found nothing that answers my question.

If MBarr is not visible after the first 4 or possibly 5 AB casts, should I dump my AB stacks with ABarr and start over, take the hit to my mana by fishing for MBarr, or dump my AB stacks with an unhasted AM?

The decision as to when this is enough "fishing" is dependent on your mana pool, fight length, mana replacement timers, etc., there is no one answer fits all. But don't use Abarr to dump stacks, it was proven earlier in this thread that unhasted AM is a better cast to make if you need to clear stacks.

I'd really like to see this information in the first post. I'm sure the original poster of this question, and I, are not the only people who want to know what to do if MB doesn't proc.

Axcents · 06/18/10, 5:03 AM

A frost dk in my guild tested out Arp stacking and is getting more dps then he was when he stacked str. is this better now?
he is capped arp.

Sarvius · 06/18/10, 5:22 AM

I see. For those purposes alone (cata launch, leveling, early instancing) you should have more success with a black bruise. To some degree the hit on bloodvenom will be wasted once you're not fighting a raid boss and armor pen is going away so gear with a plethora of the stat will be less exceptionally valuable when 4.0 launches. It won't make a whole lot of difference, but black bruise should be BiS as you've observed. You'll be offhanding a 1.4 or 1.3 dagger when cat hits regardless of what mh you're using, too, so you might as well let your dks have a crack at their weapons since they can't use any bruises that drop. On the other hand it's not likely most dks will level as dual-wield anyways because the trees are going to be shaken up and frost will no longer be a dps spec.

Ratak - US KT · 06/18/10, 6:06 AM

Originally Posted by Sarvius

On the other hand it's not likely most dks will level as dual-wield anyways because the trees are going to be shaken up and frost will no longer be a dps spec.

Ugh - last I saw Frost was going to be the DW DPS tree with Blood becoming the tanking tree. Its likely that DW will be extremely competitive for DPS for DKs like it is now. Recent changes though have increased the viability of DW Unholy and 2H Frost, but DW DPS will be very viable. I'm extremely likely to level DW on my DK.

moosepsc · 06/18/10, 10:36 AM

Hello all, first i woulfd like to say thank you for all of your input, on the resto druids. It has been a huge time save in learning to raid with druid. I have been looking through the forums for a few days.. looking for answers to a couple of questions... and i am not sure if their was clear answer, and i have a couple other questions as well

1- I am a dual speced resto (main)/boomkin... How much dps is lost from not having any hit on a boss fight?

2- Form everything that i have read spell power is what should be stacked for a healer, if i am omming how much MP5 20 spirt gem give me, or would it be better to go with INt and increase the mana pool and crit?

just looking for a deeper insight

moose

Fivemagics · 06/18/10, 11:53 AM

Hey, just a quick question. I've tried the search function, but no help.

Putting progression aside, ultimately which is better for an unholy (or frost) death knight , Flask of Endless Rage or Elixir of Mighty Strength? I just want to know why flask, 180 AP vs 40 Str (80 ap)

I see the on the guide post on first page, it says endless rage. i would have normally guessed the strength potion is a lot better because the ghoul/gargoyle benefit from it. Also, does it not add bonus with talents/raid buffs?

bsolar · 06/18/10, 12:14 PM

Originally Posted by Fivemagics

I see the on the guide post on first page, it says endless rage. i would have normally guessed the strength potion is a lot better because the ghoul/gargoyle benefit from it. Also, does it not add bonus with talents/raid buffs?

All of this is taken into account when calculating stat weights, so you just need to know the weight of STR and multiply it for the amount given by the Elixir. You'll see that Endless Rage is a lot better.

brunghoz · 06/18/10, 12:39 PM

Lots of nice info in this threat thanks

tisonlyme80 · 06/18/10, 1:30 PM

ok at what point should i switch my gems from Str to Armor pen? like how much Arp should i have in my gear b4 i start geming for it too ( for my Fury Spec )

taliesin3 · 06/18/10, 4:27 PM

Quick question from a resto main-spec: We've just reached H LK (10) and I'm swapping to balance for this fight - have you guys found Typhoon to be that useful? I'm trying to decide if the talent point might be better spent elsewhere (reducing pushback on starfire, for example) before we start later this week.

healcat · 06/18/10, 4:29 PM

at the moment i have reg trauma and heroic sundial and i have been very happy with this combo. i have been running hard modes lately and passed on some staffs (heroic dying light and reg archus) that looked pretty hot assuming that i would be trying to get heroic trauma. im just wondering if there is any numbers out there comparing the raw stats on those weapons to the trauma proc. the amount of haste on the weapons would also allow me to drop some haste gems too - more throughput - yay!

anyone have any info?

tramson · 06/18/10, 5:22 PM

Originally Posted by taliesin3

Quick question from a resto main-spec: We've just reached H LK (10) and I'm swapping to balance for this fight - have you guys found Typhoon to be that useful? I'm trying to decide if the talent point might be better spent elsewhere (reducing pushback on starfire, for example) before we start later this week.

i think typhoon is very useful in lich king hardmode p3. im able to pushback the ghosts down in the forstmourne room and those upstairs, if one of the tanks doesn't get them all. this saved some lives a couple of times.

Maeglor · 06/18/10, 5:24 PM

with the current arcane raiding spec, is it better to gem for set bonuses? or to go straight +sp?

Sonkie · 06/18/10, 5:27 PM

Last nigth i got [Tiny Abomination in a Jar], should i use it with [Whispering Fanged Skull] Heroic or [Death's Verdict] 245? Also now im over Hit Cap, duno if i should use [Recovered Scarlet Onslaught Cape] over [Cloak of the Victorious Combatant]. Havent been playing for a while so im a bit cofused.
[Seal of Many Mouths] or [Band of the Violent Temperment] + [Item not found!] ?

taliesin3 · 06/18/10, 5:45 PM

Originally Posted by Arythorn

if you don't have 3/3 CF (you said something about spending the Typhoon point in pushback to Starfire), then you definitely need to take a look at what you're doing on spec. It's not so much the pushback but the 3% spell haste you are skipping.

My problem is that, since I'm using a lot of resto gear, my haste is far above the softcap - so the 3% spell haste doesn't look as lucrative as many of the other talent points. Instead, I'm worried more about pushback on starfire. Judging from your response (and the fact that you have no talent points in Nature's Focus), I'm guessing that pushback isn't an issue in a typical raid situation?