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Old 06/22/10, 7:29 PM   #17581
mebizzle
Von Kaiser
 
Human Death Knight
 
Gorgonnash
Originally Posted by Ashenray View Post
I seen earlier someone asking about using FC on both wpns. I just was curious since I did not see a response, as to the effectiveness of doing this? Is RI/FC still the best combo or is going FC/FC viable?
I simmed it and tested it recently and noticed it was a slight loss in damage to go FC/FC.

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Old 06/22/10, 7:40 PM   #17582
Inversinator
Glass Joe
 
Orc Death Knight
 
Blackrock
Originally Posted by Ashenray View Post
I seen earlier someone asking about using FC on both wpns. I just was curious since I did not see a response, as to the effectiveness of doing this? Is RI/FC still the best combo or is going FC/FC viable?
Results from a recent sim I did. The gear set up is the same as my armory except with H DBW instead of HWT:

DPS| 16056(+/- 3685)
Total Damage| 5780.32m | in 100h
Total runic power used: 2249280 (0 wasted)
Threat Per Second| 11501
Generated in |40s
Template:| frostdw
Priority: |Frost
Presence: |Blood
Sigil: |Awareness
RuneEnchant: | Razorice / |FallenCrusader
Pet Calculation: |True

DPS| 15952(+/- 3658)

Total Damage| 5742.84m | in 100h
Total runic power used: 2249280 (0 wasted)
Threat Per Second| 11419
Generated in |40s
Template:| frostdw
Priority: |Frost
Presence: |Blood
Sigil: |Awareness
RuneEnchant: | FallenCrusader / |FallenCrusader
Pet Calculation: |True

DPS| 16050(+/- 3721)

Total Damage| 5777.88m | in 100h
Total runic power used: 2249280 (0 wasted)
Threat Per Second| 11496
Generated in |40s
Template:| frostdw
Priority: |Frost
Presence: |Blood
Sigil: |Awareness
RuneEnchant: | FallenCrusader / |Razorice
Pet Calculation: |True


~100 DPS loss to use FC/FC. Numbers might change depending on gear.

Last edited by Inversinator : 06/22/10 at 7:41 PM. Reason: formatting

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Old 06/22/10, 8:03 PM   #17583
mellonjollie
Glass Joe
 
Troll Rogue
 
Shadowmoon
First off, thank you for the time you dedicated to such a nice app. I would like to add Halion loot into your project, and after reading the FAQ's posted on the project's home page, I gave it a shot.
However, I am not a programmer and after giving it a few tries, I could not get it to function properly.

Will you be updating soon to include these, or can you post the code for those items that I can cut and paste into the file?

Thanks again.

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Old 06/22/10, 8:20 PM   #17584
du5tman
 
Undead Warrior
 
Tichondrius
Prot Warrior Macros

Seems to be a taboo to post tanking warrior macros, just wondering if someone would like to trade macro designs in 3.3.3. Although it I am waiting for my server to go up, and the new patch has been applied 3.3.5. I had time to kill, and browsing the topics of EJ. I wonder if I will get a infraction for this, seeing as though, this website "can" get convoluted with information. Although I do like the front end, and now I am posting to what I feel could be a place to start posting for Prot War tanking macros.

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Old 06/22/10, 8:37 PM   #17585
heirisha
 
Blood Elf Paladin
 
Feathermoon
hey

i fully agree with all of what your saying here; retribution paladins definatly have no as per say, definition of good bad or otherwise, although most of these changes could be new and exciting, nothing is set in crystal yet.
while on the other this whole paladin pet thing i do dislike, if its any thing like WC3, it could potentially a let down.
paladins just need firming up and rounding off current set up in my opinion, not a complete overhaul and change like is suggested for cataclysm.

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Old 06/22/10, 9:47 PM   #17586
DamagePlan
 
Blood Elf Rogue
 
Burning Blade
So I see a lot of back and forth about which hand to hold which weapon and which poison to use on each hand.
The quick and flawed advice says slow IP in MH fast DP in OH. But other posts say fast DP in MH but do those take into account the newest DP changes?

So in short assuming equal DPS which weapon and which poison goes in which hand?

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Old 06/22/10, 9:53 PM   #17587
Thief
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Rogue
 
Crushridge
Read:
Q: Which dagger goes MH?
A: The higher-DPS one.

Q: What if they're of equal DPS?
A: The short answer is that it doesn't matter very much - both options will be within a tenth of a percent of DPS. Usually it will be better to have the fast weapon MH, but there are situations - the most common one involving use of Tiny Abom - where that may not be the case.

Q: Wait, what? The fast one MH?
A: Yep. Basically, the extra poison procs you gain just barely outweigh the loss of Mutilate damage. See this post for numbers.

Q: So DP sometimes goes on your MH?
A: Yes. DP goes on the fast weapon, whichever hand it's in. If both weapons are the same speed, DP goes on the MH.
from the 3.3 rogue FAQ, and there is no patch since to have reason to assume there is any change.

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Old 06/22/10, 10:43 PM   #17588
Assassin1344
Glass Joe
 
Human Warlock
 
Dalvengyr
Anybody else chomping at the bit to get this trinket from Ruby Sanctum [Charred Twilight Scale] would link heroic but don't know how =D

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Old 06/22/10, 10:57 PM   #17589
Beåutiful
 
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Orc Hunter
 
Crushridge
Open with serpent sting, then kill shot > chimera shot > aimed shot > arcane shot > steady shot. Chimera shot will refresh your sting, so only ever cast another serpent sting if the first one falls off or you change targets.
With regard to the shot rotation, would it be benifical to open with Aimed Shot, as it further increases the damage of the following shots?

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Old 06/22/10, 11:00 PM   #17590
Moyotoshi
Glass Joe
 
Troll Hunter
 
Cho'gall
No, Aimed Shot only refers to its own damage. It deals weapon damage + its increase.

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Old 06/22/10, 11:14 PM   #17591
Beåutiful
 
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Orc Hunter
 
Crushridge
According to the tooltip I have read, it indicates it increases ranged damage by x. Perhaps I am simply misinterpreting it assuming it is an umbrella increase versus an aimed shot specific increase.

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Old 06/23/10, 1:16 AM   #17592
Sharmard
 
Blood Elf Warrior
 
<FOE>
Runetotem
really good resto shaman threat gone missing

this link:

http://elitistjerks.com/f47/t24796-shaman_restoration/

Was really helpful. What happened to it?

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Old 06/23/10, 7:13 AM   #17593
terrba
 
Human Death Knight
 
Chromaggus (EU)
I need to ask a question about trinkets.

Right now I'm using DBW normal and HWT, would it be better for me to use WFS normal instead of HWT?

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Old 06/23/10, 7:39 AM   #17594
Duckmistress
Glass Joe
 
Orc Warlock
 
Arathor (EU)
Very much appreciated! Bringing back memories of Bakka.

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Old 06/23/10, 8:39 AM   #17595
Shatman
 
Draenei Shaman
 
Alleria
Recent switch from Tank to Arms and need some DPS help- Is Axe the preferred tree for dp or does one need to attain the 100% ArP capp before spec'ing axes? Currentley using the Heroic 2H mace from Princess and have picked Mace spec for added 15%, but with my current geming and stance bonus, I am at 103% ArP.
Its apparent that there is no specific rotation, but more priority button pushing. If anyone has some quick DPS pointers for a novice Arms, would appreciate it.

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