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Shigo · 06/25/10, 3:37 PM

Looking over the updated BiS, when did [Battle-Maiden's Legguards] become better than [Scourge Reaver's Legplates]? Is it just because it has 24 more haste and a red slot instead of a blue? I have always assumed that exp is something Unholy DKs don't need based on what everyone has been saying on the forums. When did this change?

Also the last image in BiS is messed up and when you click it, it doesn't enlarge.

Tommaco · 06/25/10, 4:21 PM

Just wanted to let you all in on a little test i conducted and for me it worked out nicely. Not sure if it has ever been raised becasuse it seems as though most all fury warriors bank on simple the spreadsheet and prety much all the same spec.

I started realy digging into the fury tree looking for wasted TP's and what i came across was that depending on your gear it its absolutely ok to drop as much points from precision as you can. in game im sitting at 5.06% hit i originaly had 3pts in precision and on top of that im a dranei with the 1% hit racial buff. so this gives me 9.06% hit. Now i have absolutely no gear outside of Cryptmaker and my Rep ring that has any hit on it at all. and it seems as though with all the loot out right now as far as bis thats what ill have to work with till more items are released in expansions or patches RS . Well i droped 2 pts off of precision so im now 1/3 and used them into enrage. Also going big and taking out pts from execute and leding them to enrage as well so now im 4/5 enrage 4/5 Unbridled Wrath. Enrage procs constantly even on every boss fight in ICC i still use execute when viable at the end of my rotation i also start off every boss fight by poping and indestructable pot i use my haste pot later in the fight coupled with a DW CD. And i use a Flame Cap every time the CD is up durring an encounter.

Understand i have not one single piece of 277 loot im all 264 25man or 10H 264 coupled with H tallonstrike and a lame 251 neck im trying to dump LOL . before i changed my spec i never pulled more then 13k on saurfang my best was
13.4k dps at the end of the fight. with this new spec i pulled 14.6k and almost craped my pants at the end. needless to say the guildies i riad with every week where on my nutz and like what the hell did you do different??? or thought i snuck in some new loots between raids LOL. anyways my point is its a solid spec with a noticable dps gain! try it out! and btw your dps will go up on every single fight Enrage procs constantly due to unavoidable raid damage in icc thats on almost every fight in that place.

Anyways happy raiding and enjoy!

Here is my armory so you can see my old and new specs along with my gear
The World of Warcraft Armory - Tommaco @ Kel'Thuzad - Talents

ps. Landsoul i wanted to see if i could make a request to add enrage tallent to the dps spreadsheet. the way its set up taking points out of precision always is a dps downgrade on there since they go basicly to unspent tallents when you do.
And for some reason ive been trying to redownload the spread sheet from the link provided since i built a new comp and what i get is 4 folders extracted with no excel document to open. ive searched all folders and nothing is opening the spread sheet. has the download changed?

Kellendros · 06/25/10, 4:29 PM

I've been digging the forums looking for a different tool to calculate dps, looking for a trustworthy one, as rawr is, as none was found, I decided to ask for help in this post small post.

I have been finding some different numbers on my own calculations (especially about trinkets) and even on real raid testing. None of my calculations are still precise enough (yet) to be relevated on this forums, but still I’m trying to find a different "dps calculator" tool, wich maybe could backup my math. Possibly a simulator as used by the enhancement fellows.
Can anyone provide me some information?

I apologize in advance for my bad English.

kitasha · 06/25/10, 7:33 PM

I recently picked up a Corpse Tongue Coin Trinket bc it was going to be De'd otherwise. I was looking on Rawr. It rates it as the 3rd best trinket under the new ruby sanctum trinket and the black knight trinket. I was wondering what the value currently is due to the debuff in ICC and our need for stam. I am currently using Unidentifiable organ in my other trinket slot and I also have the badge stam trinket.

Also is the black knight trinket really better than the badge stamina trinket? If so I should look into farming it. I can see how the proc would be worth while but I am not much of a min/max person.

Thanks.

kitasha · 06/25/10, 8:00 PM

Hello. I am new to main spec cat dps, i was recently told to flip bear/cat to cat/bear due to a recent increase in tanks. I am trying to look over the threads/rawr to prepare for a BiS for cat. I came upon some confusion between RAWR and the BIS postings i've read.

The new 3.19 rawr is rating the T10 277 gloves at double the value of aldrianna's gloves. It is also rating chestguard of the frigid noose (heroic) about 200 points above T10 277. Would it be assumed then that I could safely upgrade my T10 gloves to 277 and keep the chestguard for optimal DPS or is rawr broken and I should buy the T10 tunic and bid DKP on the gloves?

I currently have T10 gloves and the chestguard of the frigid noose heroic at this time and working on gathering badges for upgrading.

Also rawr tells me all the time to use haste/agi gems. Does rawr consider the 1400 ArP softcap?

I also read that 482 haste was sufficient. In my current cat set I am running with that amount of haste. With bear I know there was some settings to change to get Rawr to work properly, is there something I need to do with cat to get it to work right for suggestions?

Thanks for the help

kalbear · 06/26/10, 1:01 AM

If it's shred and mangle, one thought is that it's [Idol of Mutilation] that's causing it. I don't know of many other abilities or items that are specifically for those attacks.

Nisall · 06/26/10, 2:02 AM

You were looking in the wrong thread. Here is a link to 2 spreadsheets.

Originally Posted by Arikah

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Q: Is there a tool to calculate my DPS using a certain gear/spec setup? Or what item will be better for me?
A: Yes, Rawr, Redcape's Calculator, and Bellator's spreadsheet (updated by Exemplar) which much like this thread will improve in accuracy with time. Note that gear upgrades from all 3 tools are mostly dependent on your current gear.

Hinalover · 06/26/10, 2:47 AM

Originally Posted by kalbear

If it's shred and mangle, one thought is that it's [Idol of Mutilation] that's causing it. I don't know of many other abilities or items that are specifically for those attacks.

It is not that. For the combat log I posted, I made sure that a) both of my [Herkuml War Token] and my [Deathbringer's Will] where taken off, b) my rep [Ashen Band of Endless Vengeance] was taken off c) finally my [Idol of the Crying Moon] was also taken off. So that meant only my Black Magic enchanted [Tainted Twig of Nordrassil] was the only proc ability item I had on.

On top of that, this issue in RAWR is showing other abilites that are proccing the enchant, include, Feral Charge, Caster Faerie Fire, and [Stormchops]

soloreaper · 06/26/10, 8:54 AM

I have a strange question and i already question its feasibility for the changes, but im going to post this to the community and maybe someone can help me sim craft since im not the best at thinking through every single little detail and might miss something.

Here goes. What do you think the feasibility of fel dom summoning the imp at 35 percent or directly before it on a boss battle. With the bonus 5 percent to fire spell crit i was wondering what you guys thought about this for the execute phase with soul fire spamming. I'm aware we loose the 5 percent to overall damage which will only really affect corruption and cod but at that point cod will probably only hit one more time and extra crits from soul fire will make up the damage anyways. It doesn't affect immolate since the imp buff grants it the 5 percent damage to fire spells as well as the felguards overal buff. Beyond those changes im aware i also loose a very small amount of sp because the imp scales worse than the felguards stats.

So hit me up you elitists and tell me what you think. I haven't yet tried this but i've toyed around with the idea.

P.S. Also am interested with the post earlier how someones demo lock uses a rank 1 sb during princes fight to keep himself under decimation mostly the entire fight. Having the imp out in this instance could be insane.

P.P.S Also I recently picked the Sundial of Eternal Dusk up from sindragosa and im planning on using it during 25 man raids is 60 sp benefitial enough or should i stick to the shadow silk spindle. Im confident that the sundial is better for 25 man raids but ocassionally i like to hear someone else say it.

The World of Warcraft Armory - Soloreaper @ Exodar - Profile

whoflungdung · 06/26/10, 9:24 AM

At this late stage of icc is it still worth trying for shadowmorne with cata expansion not that far off ?
Iam currently using (heroic) bryntoll

Qik · 06/26/10, 9:55 AM

Is there a solid verdict on using 4pc/aldriana's gloves over 2pc with gang legs/ikfirus? I've seen a lot of people going one and way and the rest going another, and my spreadsheet is leaning more towards the 2pc, but whats the reason for SO many people going 4pc?

aya90 · 06/26/10, 11:59 AM

The hit cap for frost mages in raid is ?

isie · 06/26/10, 5:27 PM

You need to be hit capped at 13 or 14% depending on if u raid witha Draenei. But at that GS u need to be over 3k SP.
Ultimately SP is the first and best stat to increase dps (once hit capped).

Fulong · 06/26/10, 9:18 PM

A Video that i just made for fun.
Arms Warrior Power - Xfire Video

c4tuna · 06/26/10, 9:22 PM

Destro lock with two quick questions.

1) I have an offset head and gloves. My chest and pants are T9.5 and my shoulders are T10.5. I just crafted Woven Death, am I looking at a DPS loss by equipping them before I get my T10 chest?

2) Is it ever a DPS gain to clip immolate because of empowered imp?