Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 118

PEarlygates · 03/20/09, 2:52 PM

A questions for duel wielding DPS.

Rune of the Fallen Crusader - Whats the CD on it to proc again ?

Duel wielding 2 weapons with Rune of the Fallen Crusader, is it worth it ? or is it just pointless.

If I have Rune of the Fallen Crusader on one hand and Enchant Weapon - Crusader can both proc at same time ? Do they effect eachothers CD in some way ?

terakaijer · 03/20/09, 3:04 PM

Well I myself am not understanding why you all are still here and not over in the 2 hander room. Switch over and the ones left will get back to work and continue to do what they do best. Regrouping and not resorting to immediate surrender.

Novusordo · 03/20/09, 3:40 PM

Originally Posted by concept84

Could this possibly have been Rank 1 Scourge Strike with a 1h weapon? and without diseases up?

This is the only thing I can think of.

lol probably rank 1 if he'd never been UH before.

Hallagenic · 03/21/09, 3:48 AM

Those 2 items make me extremly extremly happy, id love to give up 5% crit for more swings and a 1.4 sword is amazing in sword spec. Also plz note sense this is actua discussion about t8 not 7 i will be making a new thread about t8 gear. Plz move further discusion to there.

Hotgamer · 03/21/09, 4:20 AM

I have double mongoose on my swords. Today I saw a rogue with berserking on his OH and mongoose on his MH. Is berserking better than mongoose for OH?

WhiteMoose · 03/21/09, 9:53 AM

Originally Posted by Lollersk8er

No offense, but your tests are quite worthless. High ping, no glyphs, talent links not working, Merciless Combat + Necrosis specced, no detailed results and no detailed setup. Please don't redo them. You clearly don't know much about DK's and only show stuff that has been known for weeks.

Thanks for the love, not everyone is all knowing when it comes to things like this. I just tried to help out. But because of the love i recive i won't do it again.

Oh, and i always have 500 ms on the PTR, can't help it.

I just tried to help out. Whats so wrong in that?

Grinched · 03/21/09, 12:57 PM

Hello, I was reading that DW will kinda die when they put HB as the 51 talent point and change some other stuff in unholy. Exp Blood caked blade will have a 3sec internal cool down. necrosis will only be for main hand damage. For dw to work u need ablity that has no weapon damage ( HB ). Pretty much Blizz said "if DK"S are leaning to DW for max dps in raids then they will change it. For the reason that most class that dps in raids for melee is DW. War, rogue ( of course) shaman. Blizzard doesn't want the DK to fallow the same path. Let me know if u guys have heard other wise. I read most of your post, but not all

Might get in trouble

Razumikhin · 03/21/09, 2:49 PM

Originally Posted by Zakalwe

The meta gem options only model the special meta gem bonus (2% int in the case of ember), not the regular stats such as spell power. The simplest way to make the necessary changes would be to add this to the profile just below the Warlock_T7_Gear.simcraft line:

Thanks for the clarification. I really appreciate the work you've put into the simulation.

Umara · 03/21/09, 5:34 PM

Long time i think before spec dualweild, tryed to readup everything i could find about it, reading your guys's posts and couldnt find right answer on all my questions, so i tryed it out.

I dont like math that much to dive deep in numbers, but in my guild healing raiding setup (shamy, 1-2 palls, 1-2 priests, 2-3 droods) i got about 8-12% of effective healing compeared to last two weeks.

On Saphiron fight i got 20%!!! effective healing increase

my opinnion about effective and ineffective healing on chainherl is: if target recieve any dmg CHh wil jump on them, so even if it will overheal, target will be topped up (healed). Isnt i what healer should do if his primary target is topped up?

Sure this build isnt workin in 10 mans (so greatly) and 5 mans (i tryed to heal DTK, GUN and OCC and it was freakin hard). But for 25 man without heavy aoe heals one dw resto shammy it's must have!

Also, with all taks about EL procks, you might skeep another greatest part of DW healing, +healing buff on OH wep. this way you easy can get 3k + healing (selfbuffed with FT totem), that make you just ultimate healing machine on high aoe dmg fights.

Supercrazy · 03/21/09, 7:35 PM

Originally Posted by Heeno

There is no reason to spec into hit for affliciton with a meta/ruin spec. DoTs in this spec are not very powerful and do not suffer to a high extent from not being hit capped. If a DoT misses, it is easy to just recast it and only lose a GCD. There are just too many better talent choices offered by the deep demonology tree over 3% affliction hit.

Im just trying it for the hell of it, its nice seeing high crit sb's

Deadrogue · 03/21/09, 7:58 PM

Damage: 948 - 1128Speed: 2.35Power3190Hit Rating: 314Crit Chance: 34.09%Expertise: 22
This is my rogue: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...hor&n=Deadpool
My Question is how much dps am i losing or gaining with this combat spec 7/51/13.

riptissue · 03/21/09, 8:20 PM

0/10/61 build:

Can anyone post the talent tree?

Thanks

Beltog · 03/21/09, 10:04 PM

Looking for some advice on my gemming and dps, im a typical combat spec 15/51/5 and fully raid buffed im just clearing 3k dps i think with my gear i should be reaching more so im wonder should i change gems to 32ap intstead of the 16agi, also my expertise is 26 with buff food.

1 - Do i change gems?
2 - Would Torment of the Banished make a diffrence mainhand.?
3 - Screw combat and go DW WD?

The World of Warcraft Armory

Any critisim or advice greatly accepted.

jstrong · 03/21/09, 10:53 PM

So guys what are some of the dw builds that you guys are coming up with in PTR

03/21/09, 11:21 PM

ur gay kaubel lol

tremble · 03/22/09, 1:43 AM

Originally Posted by Lebuff

You can summon an eye of kilrog and dismiss it to make your pet appear next to you. It has been posted before in one of the threads.

Yeah supplicium sent me a pm about it

yendis · 03/22/09, 5:48 AM

I've tried without luck to find any thread on this, so i guess i'll just ask it here:
has there been any thread giving insight on using voidwalker to tank sarth? i've seen some youtube clips, and would like to know the talent builds/strats on doing it. sounds fun :P

Juniorjr · 03/22/09, 10:39 AM

WWS
Armory (Totem and Boots are new, didn't have those at that raid)

I would like to thank you posters on these forums. This thread and the TTT Elemental thread have been very helpful. Thank you thank you. This is my attempt to bring some info into the thread.

I did 5596 DPS on Patchwerk last night. My previous record was 4900.
I didn't change my rotation between those 2 raids. The gear improvements were that I got the T7-25 head and T7-25 legs.
But this time I used Searing Totem most of the fight. There was another Elemental shaman there who had Totem of Wrath up for us. And the Searing Totem did 7% of my total damage. That would be roughly 390 DPS
Also, the disc priest kept casting Power Infusion on me. That has never happened to me before. Are you guys familiar with this method? Casting Power Infusion on the top DPS player in the raid. Sounds cool, but I don't know if its most beneficial for an Ele Shaman.

P.S. This is my first post. I will edit this for clarity afterwards if needed.

Aerenx · 03/22/09, 12:09 PM

Has anyone actually sat down on the PTR with some various classes, and actually tested what debuffs will cause the BS glyph to work? Just because it works on a test dummy does NOT mean its going to work on a raid boss.

All I've been able to test is Infected Wounds (does NOT trigger it), and Chains of Ice (WILL trigger it). I'd be interested mostly in Frostfire Bolt, even though no mage with even semi decent gear is going FFB these days, Chilblains, and Slow.

DaelynTH · 03/22/09, 2:30 PM

Originally Posted by Kurotowa

Firstly: "Per Warlock" means "one for each of you". That means that one specific Warlock can have only one curse on a target at a time. Agony or Elements, not both. But every Warlock gets their own one curse. So all of you can have their own Agony on the target.

Second: Absolutely. When solo, CoE has roughly the same benefit as CoA (not counting talents and stuff like Molten Core). But the key is it's a force multiplier. It adds DPS to *everyone* in the raid that does magical damage. So yes, one of you should absolutely have CoE up when there's no Moonkin or Unholy DK. Preferable an Afflic Warlock that has it talented, and lacking that then someone who doesn't use it for MC procs.

Thanks for taking the time to reply - it's cleared my questions up nicely.

Killingston · 03/22/09, 2:36 PM

I copied my hunter to the ptr, and was quite pleased with the current changes in the survival tree. I dropped glyph of Steady and glyph of Serpent, picked up Glyph of Explosive Shot[4% more chance to crit] and Kill Shot[reduced cooldown by 6 seconds]. Then I dropped all talent points designed to increase Serpent damage, and picked up all Black Arrow relevant talents. Spent a little time on rotation, and my average dps on test dummies increased by 300.
I'm pretty happy with that, but I feel a cloud of nerf looming over my head. With all things considered, being top dps in my guild for 6 months, I've had a fun ride.
Currently 0/17/52 I meditate with the 2 useless points

astr · 03/22/09, 6:37 PM

Greetings
Sorry for offtop guys but dont know where i can post this message.
I'm fury and have some problems.
I'm reading your messages and dont know how can u have 6-7k dps on normal bosses(not on thadd etc).
Here is my armory: The World of Warcraft Armory
My dps is circa 3.5-4k. On sartharion and adds it is 3.2.
Can u help me and give me some answer abut "my bads" or give me some clues?
I use bt->ww->slam if it is not of cd->hs as a rage dump.
Dont know what im doing bad

Littlex · 03/22/09, 9:01 PM

Hi together,

after gathering some decent defense gear we are planing to try Sartharion 3D 10 man with me as main tank.
Please note i never have tanked sartharion, i have little tanking experience and normaly i am a damage dealer.

We already killed Sarth+3d 25man (not me as MT), i am familiar with the fight and i have read tons of guides.
Still i have two open questions: 1. On what does the choice of the spec rely? (Currently i am leaning towards the unholy build because i am familiar with the unholy tree.)
2. What are cooldowns should be used in which order to mignate sarths breaths?

Thanks & Regards, Falx

Niv · 03/22/09, 9:34 PM

Originally Posted by Arragoth

I can read. Wierd.

Congrats. Now go work on your spelling

Zerath · 03/22/09, 9:46 PM

Originally Posted by Littlex

Hi together,

after gathering some decent defense gear we are planing to try Sartharion 3D 10 man with me as main tank.
Please note i never have tanked sartharion, i have little tanking experience and normaly i am a damage dealer.

We already killed Sarth+3d 25man (not me as MT), i am familiar with the fight and i have read tons of guides.
Still i have two open questions: 1. On what does the choice of the spec rely? (Currently i am leaning towards the unholy build because i am familiar with the unholy tree.)
2. What are cooldowns should be used in which order to mignate sarths breaths?

Thanks & Regards, Falx

"Best" OS3 10man spec: WorldofWarcraft.com -> Info -> Classes -> Death Knight -> Talent Calculator

Cooldowns are saved until the 3rd drake lands. Everyone uses them in a different rotation. I used Bone Shield first with Monarch Crab for prolonged uptime. Then AMS, IBF, if BS is back up - that, if not AMZ.

And you will only be using these cooldowns on breaths. You'll also want external cds ready, possibly a Holy Priest and Holy Paladin. You will want to use each in conjunction with your own (IBF + Pally cd), etc.

Stop attacking once Twilight Torment is debuffed on you. Keep IT up and Blade Barrier for the extra parry and enough RP to keep your cooldowns going.

Glyphs - IT/AMS/Bone Shield.

Make sure you have *tons* of stam for this role.