Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 1185

Koa · 06/30/10, 2:39 PM

I have been arms since uld, and more recently been looking back into going fury due to lack of need for an arms warrior. I have been lurking pretty hard on the fury threads and i can't seem to find any real solid numbers on how much of a dps boost stance dancing to apply rend is, I have a feeling it might be quite minimal or possibly even a loss in light of the new HS bug and DW munching. Also i am unable to spreadsheet cause i dont have excel QQ.

TL;DR- Is applying rend a dps boost and if so how much?

kelben · 06/30/10, 2:46 PM

I tossed this build (10/53/8) together for exclusive purpose of tanking the little fire adds in Ruby Sanctum on Heroic. Trying to maximize AOE threat, any pointers or comments?

It seems ideal to pick up the faster DnD, unsure if the gylph is worthwhile but considering my other choices nothing else really seemed to stand out. I have no idea if Acclimation will proc off the fire elementals but again it seems worth taking. Worse case I could take a dip into the fire every so often to maintain the stack, or am I completely off base here. Otherwise those three points would most likely end up in scent of blood or icy talons.

Purelybetter · 06/30/10, 3:28 PM

Originally Posted by Koa

I have been arms since uld, and more recently been looking back into going fury due to lack of need for an arms warrior. I have been lurking pretty hard on the fury threads and i can't seem to find any real solid numbers on how much of a dps boost stance dancing to apply rend is, I have a feeling it might be quite minimal or possibly even a loss in light of the new HS bug and DW munching. Also i am unable to spreadsheet cause i dont have excel QQ.

TL;DR- Is applying rend a dps boost and if so how much?

It can be. In optimal conditions I've heard as high as 2% DPS increase. However, you won't see those results more than likely.

LunchbØx · 06/30/10, 3:32 PM

Hello,

I'm a newer player, but I'm currently finishing my DK grind to 80. I see a lot of dungeon DK tanks going Frost not Blood, and I'm wondering if Blood Tanking is no longer supreme for smaller groups? Also, if I'm going 100% DPS @ 80, is Unholy/Blood 17/0/54 the best spec to be in?

Thanks in advance

EDIT: Also, I keep seeing Unholy Blight on people's rotation, but I don't see anywhere to link it to actually use the action. Is this supposed to be passive, or am I just not finding it?

LunchbØx · 06/30/10, 4:01 PM

Hey guys, just a quick question about warriors, what race makes the best PvE Tank?

greylegend · 06/30/10, 5:35 PM

Just curious if you've done any calculations using new Helion drops and plan to incorporate them into best in slot posts.

"Surrender is not an option"

Greylegend (fury)

Furrymaker · 06/30/10, 6:30 PM

It doesn't take outrageous gear for the SEP of crit to surpass 1, so it's not surprise higher crit set ups are a little ahead. As far as crit fueling rage to up our dps, sure, but most fury warriors have been able to put a brick on the heroic strike key and maintain their rotation since t9. If I remember correctly I'm running with about 51% crit and 6500 AP in zerker and I'm happy with the results, I'm not able to run Landsoul's spread sheet anymore but I'm willing to bet if I were to sacrifice some AP for more crit it would be a dps increase.

onesound · 06/30/10, 7:31 PM

I am kinda new to WoW and I have been reading up a lot lately about SrS refreshing, and a friend told me to come here to ask the questions I needed answered.

After testing on target dummies I see that only buffs that add overall attack power benefit refreshing SrS. What other procs are there that would be good to refresh SrS with? Like I know of Culling of the Herd and Exploit weakness(2 pc T10), are there any others? Thanks

Saveric · 06/30/10, 7:38 PM

Originally Posted by rava

I updated the list to the best of my ability with Ruby Sanctum loot. Posted specifics under the main heading.

Umbrage Armbands are simming a fair bit higher than Scourge Hunter Vambraces. There's a good chance I messed something up in here as it's been so long since I've updated the thread.

Yeah I was showing Umbrage Armbands about 60dps higher than Scourge Hunter Vambraces as well.

brandofriva · 06/30/10, 7:58 PM

Originally Posted by greylegend

Just curious if you've done any calculations using new Helion drops and plan to incorporate them into best in slot posts.

They are already in on the first page of this thread man

Zaine · 06/30/10, 8:12 PM

Where do you enable the ICC buff?

Faelun · 06/30/10, 9:32 PM

Just wanted to know if anyone has done the math to see whats best, Hdfo vs normal charred scale?

Gallun · 07/01/10, 12:09 AM

Originally Posted by Gallun

OK, I've been looking for the simple answer here but after dozens of pages in this and the Field Manual I can't find a clear direction. So I'll put out a question.

I have some questions on a Prot Pally Talent Build (yeah I know there's about a dozen salivating already).
I'm currently a 5 man Heroic whore for the badges and what not, plus I like it. I'm getting into some of the 10mans and I like my prot build pretty well but I have 2 troublesome points to spend.

Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft is my 0/54/15 base.
This has been my thinking so far:
I love SOC, as there are so many multi pulls I need to get aggro on 3-4 mobs.
Vindication seems to be a good bet for me going into 10mans.
Only did 1 pt in Imp Judge as the other is wasted, so I tossed the other in might to get to 3rd tier.
I like PoJ as I would rather drop Tuskarr's for more survivability also getting the jump on a 3-4 pack and opening with hammer is functional as it saves AS and HoR for DPSers messing up and pulling.

So.. think that talks to where I spent points that are 'in debate' the others are pretty standard. Now where to toss the other 2?

Reduce my spell cost with 2 into benediction?
Toss 2 into Reckoning for some cool Pally-Windfury type action?
Any other suggestions/recommendations?

So I went with 2/5 Reckoning and I have to say I like it. Feels like Im getting some decent extra smaks outta' it, I have to dig into some numbers to attribute some actual DPS/TPS, but a lot is said for "It's seems funner". Totally agree it's not a boss 'tuned' 2 points though, but tbh I didn't see much that could have been tuned for bosses in general.

marcalo · 07/01/10, 12:56 AM

This is similar to an ability in DotA for Nerubian Weaver. Essentially every 15 seconds a frostbolt will be .3s shorter cast time.

An easy way to sim it would be to sub this ability for a haste increase for 1 spell cast with a 15s icd.

SexyBoBo · 07/01/10, 1:15 AM

I know this is probably a bad question but how important is being at hit cap for a feral druid?
The main reason i am asking is right now i have 3 hit gems and when ever i runt he optimizer on Rawr it tells me to remove them and put in 10agil10crit instead. It also removes a necklace with hit in favor of one with out putting me a total of 97 under my hit ratting. Have i just been misinformed that i have to be close or at my hit cap or my dps will plummet or does rawr just not take hit into consideration?
Sorry if it is a stupid question i have just heard a lot of people giving very conflicting advice and this has puzzled me for a long time.