Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 119

Kintaru · 03/22/09, 9:10 PM

So since this thread has no order in it at all, I was wondering if someone could tell me the typical DW rotation for a 0/32/39 build thats used on live. Thanks.

Gilgamesh69 · 03/22/09, 9:20 PM

First time poster, long time lurker. I apologize if this has come up in any other thread, but I am trying to find the perfect PvP build for the Arcane/Fire mage.

Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft
*I apologize edited for correctness

This is my idea for an optimal PvP build. Constructive/Destructive criticism is appreciated. Thanks.

Allicill · 03/22/09, 9:20 PM

i would llike to have authorization to be able to post on the forum. Am i missing something on what to do? Thnx for your time

Revelations · 03/23/09, 12:03 AM

Didnt really thought arms would make it through.
Now I have to slash all my leather-hit gear and get stuff with alot of str/ap/arp/crit/xp.

How much does arp-rating get boosted and the hit-cap rating for 2h is 8% on lvl 83 bosses right?

Bukama · 03/23/09, 4:08 AM

I didn't read the whole thread, but used the searchfunction without any success, so I ask directly: Is there any possibility to track the damage done in Phase 3? WWS etc don't show it up, so I don't know any possibilty to watch out the "bad dragoncontrollers", who still can not do damage the right way

killamanz · 03/23/09, 5:15 AM

When i play Mut i use Natur cast just to make it dummy proof, other that i use Power Aura to monitor SnD.

Fetzen · 03/23/09, 6:37 AM

That build doesnt make much sense in my opinion.
First of all, the question would be what kind of PvP you are referring too. If you just want to have some fun in battlegrounds or want to perform good in Wintergrasp that is a different thing then playing arena. If playing arena is your goal, the question would be in what bracket you plan to fight and if at least one of your partners will be a caster who relies on a hogh crit rating. Only then taking Focus Magic would make much sense for a pvp-spec.

You put one point into Playing with Fire. That is mostly a PvE-Talent and doesnt do much for PvP: The one percent extra damage won't change much in short-timed PvP-battles while you also take one more percent extra damage yourself. If that trade makes sense outside a raid-environment I don't know.

And you did not skill Arcane Fortidude, which surely isn't necessary but might be more important in certain pvp-situations then Arcane Concentration.

Happy to be corrected by others who have a different view on this.

emulous · 03/23/09, 7:12 AM

Hi guys, here is my armory:

The World of Warcraft Armory

I've been struggling to reach 1750 closes so far (1746ish) so I've been trying to squeeze some more out of my mage and I am focusing on haste atm.. yesterday I reached 476 (14.52%) haste and am still working on picking up the titan-steel salv helm for 44 more haste the T7 shoulders and the haste back when I reach 1750.. but when should I stop stacking haste? and when should I start swapping back my PvP items / gems for more resil stam etc?

I current have tons of gear knocking around full hateful, deadly chest, T7.5 chest, legs, T7 chest, legs, gloves, all the badge loot and heroic items, all deadly items aside from back. titan-steel boots hit and haste, titan-steel helm hit, WG trinket etc etc

Basically then how much haste is an ideal / perfect amount to have? eg? enough haste to get 2 frostbolt on a deep freeze? enough to get 1.5 FB with IV? I've stacked 476+ haste and I could push it to about 500+ but I'm gradually losing HP, RESIL, SPELLPOWER and CRIT.

Runeblade · 03/23/09, 11:28 AM

would it be possible to run the simulation with this version of 41/30:
Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft

I suspect that 3/3 MC and 4/5 MD would beat 2/3 MC and 5/5 MD

Memnarchon · 03/23/09, 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by Demi9OD

I imagine an affliction lock will be able to toss at least one Nightfall'd Shadow Bolt every 30 seconds during the execute phase. That should not be much of a DPS loss at all.

I don't think that this might happen cause Nightfall Nightfall - Spell - World of Warcraft has a chance to proc 4% every 3secs, so that means it has 10 times till 30secs chance of 4% to proc. So lets say it has about 40% chance to proc once in 30secs that is not something you can count on it.

Demi9OD · 03/23/09, 1:06 PM

I know the numbers well, I am just not of the opinion that 40/31 will hold on to it's signifigant lead all the way to the 3.1 push to live servers. I agree that as it currently stands the total output of the raid is highest with mages providing the debuff.

Kemogi · 03/23/09, 1:56 PM

Hey all new in here

looking to respec to Arcane Mage just want to make sure i'm right ..

the MAin rotation:
AB AB ([Missbarr] or AB AM)

and During the AP :
AB x 3 and Missabarr if pop

my question is When should i use the PoM ?? and Should i use the ICY Vein with AP ??
and also .. should i use Abarr more or ??

What Hit do i need for Arcane and also haste and crit for this spec ..

and confirm i should still looking for Hit cap> SP > Crit > Haste or Haste > crit ??

can anyone give me more hint ??

Thanks

Tukar · 03/23/09, 2:46 PM

I have 0 experience with Simulationcraft so I was wondering if you could run this spec The World of Warcraft Armory
against the standard 0/31/40 spec
The World of Warcraft Armory

Just wanting to see if the 2 points moved are an actual dps increase.

Thanks

accorn · 03/23/09, 3:44 PM

I havnt seen this in the thread (at least not since the latest build) so if I missed it, I am sorry.

Doing some napkin math using the Damage per casts from 40/31, I came up with this spec: (Demo with imp warning, it horrible go 41 points in and not get big nasty)
http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warl...0&version=9704

Glyph of Imp
Glyph of Incinerate
Glyph of Life Tap

Its just the 40/31 but shifting from Conflag to more crit.

If you run the numbers I it should out dps the current 41/30 that uses a felguard by ~50-70 dps.
(casting the exact same rotation, plays the same)

Smoothp · 03/23/09, 5:34 PM

I see, thank you for the clarification

evok99 · 03/23/09, 6:09 PM

Survival is currently top dps for hunters, will that remain the same in 3.1 or will BM or MM be outputting better dps? Is survival getting nerfed or buffed and by how much. Compared to the other classes i am always in the top 3 of the damage meters as a SV hunter, will I be able to maintain that position in 3.1 or are other dps/caster classes getting buffs that I won't be able to compete with?

I do not know if any of these questions can be answered since 3.1 isn't out, but does anyone plan on making a new thread when 3.1 comes out for the best builds for DPS?

I tried searching the forums for what rotation will be most effective in 3.1 but there is too much information to siphon through.

If there are too many questions here to be answered, please email me at evok99@yahoo.com

Eggi · 03/23/09, 6:59 PM

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If you are interested the timer bar addon is CompactBars : WoWInterface Downloads : Combat Mods.

Zensai · 03/23/09, 7:00 PM

Shaman Friend

I find this to be one of the best addons for BG's and Arena. It will announce what was grouned how much dmg was avoided, shields that drop, what spells you EarthShocked ect... Its a must have for Arena.

Chaser · 03/23/09, 7:30 PM

Originally Posted by Idk

From PTR Build 9722:

I hope this is a bug and not intended behavior.

Gotta love blizzard and their totally random unexplainable useless changes. What's the point of that ?

Stae · 03/23/09, 10:49 PM

Improved Scorch now also Increases your chance to critically hit with Scorch by an additional 3/6/9%.

Eeks · 03/23/09, 11:49 PM

So the results on the op don't factor in the use of t8 bonuses?

Lons · 03/24/09, 2:01 AM

A 9% greater chance to crit on a spell we only cast when we absolutly have to, brilliant...still won't be able to use it effectively unless you glyph for it thus losing the shiny new living bomb glyph which will lower our dps even further. Which either way is still below a destruction locks dps thus we don't get to spec out of it yay for zero sum?

cabrinha · 03/24/09, 3:05 AM

Originally Posted by Tyrian

I would have actually much preferred if they had nerfed Fire spec personal DPS a few % and put a counter benefit into scorch to counter it (eg +1/2/3% fire damage) rather than do a gimmicky type of change such as this. Is it too late to offer this feedback on the PTR and hope they reconsider?

I entirely agree with you.

Uhoq · 03/24/09, 3:08 AM

Originally Posted by pHishr

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Hi! really cool idea with the unitframes, i mean u almost can see trough em

do u have any more bars than those 2? i mean hidden ones..

morgaine · 03/24/09, 6:03 AM

Originally Posted by Deathnotes

I've been looking and as far as I can see, (though I may have overlooked) this has not yet been mentioned.

What is the list for DoT priority?

When two-three DoTs occasionally tick off at the same time isn't there one you would want to get back up first?
I'm assuming haunt, if it HAPPENS to tick off, though it shouldn't, followed by CoA, Corruption, UA, Immolate, SL? Any thoughts?

Edit: Spelling

I always start out with the following:

SB
Haunt
UA
Immo
CoA
Corr
SL

Then prio is (for me):
Haunt
UA
Immo
CoA
SL

and SB as filler

Corr should stay up due to haunt...

At 25% I stop doing SB and do drain soul and only cast SB if NF procs. I might be off here but it has worked pretty good for me.