Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 1190

Andrecherie · 07/03/10, 5:32 AM

sorry i ask your patience for my little noob or neweb question:

Given that i got a mage named Genoveffa.

In arcane we have 3 cast: Arcane Blast (abbrev. AB), Arcane Missile (abbr. AM), Arcane Barrage (abbr. Abarr), i don't understand the MBAM abbrev. Please i'd like if any could explaine to me the abbreviation (I understand MBAM is the union of 2 cas t= Missile barrage and Arcane Missile, or not?? If it is right i have to push 2 keys on my keyboard, or not?)

Thank you in advance for welcome answer

aTallroth · 07/03/10, 7:03 AM

Hello everyone! After having read this forum for years I finally decided to make an account and try to get in to the discussions a bit.

I am currently playing Frost in a fairly high-end guild (progressing on Mr Lich King HM) and I have thought a bit about Rime. Would it not be a DPS increase to drop one point in Rime and put it in Black Ice? When it comes to pure single target. I feel that my Rune rotations are so tight that I barely have time to squeeze in those Rime procs. Since its one of the lowest DPS increasers I often let the proc run its full duration and do Frost Strikes instead. I am an Engineer as well so I usually use bombs if I have time before runes loads up.

What do you think? Is there any math done on it?

Cheers!

-Psuedo

aTallroth · 07/03/10, 7:15 AM

I have been playing around a bit with a Frost spec in Cataclysm and would like youre oppinion on it. I realize the talents are not finalized but one can always prepare =)
As I see it an Unholy subspec will be the strongest in Cataclysm, since of the new Unholy version of Hysteria and since there's mostly tanking abilities in Blood. Correct me if Im wrong

I've come up with this spec:
WoW Talent Calculator - Sigrie

What do you guys think? Would this be the strongest spec (or some variation of it)?

Please point out which points could be switched for a DPS increase.

-Psuedo

Babibèle · 07/03/10, 7:23 AM

MBAM is the abbreviation for Missile Barrage Arcane Missile as a free fast AM.
Thus you just have to push your AM key on your keyboard while Missile barrage buff is up.

Shongi · 07/03/10, 8:17 AM

Originally Posted by aTallroth

Hello everyone! After having read this forum for years I finally decided to make an account and try to get in to the discussions a bit.

I am currently playing Frost in a fairly high-end guild (progressing on Mr Lich King HM) and I have thought a bit about Rime. Would it not be a DPS increase to drop one point in Rime and put it in Black Ice? When it comes to pure single target. I feel that my Rune rotations are so tight that I barely have time to squeeze in those Rime procs. Since its one of the lowest DPS increasers I often let the proc run its full duration and do Frost Strikes instead. I am an Engineer as well so I usually use bombs if I have time before runes loads up.

What do you think? Is there any math done on it?

Cheers!

-Psuedo

Rime gives more than just a free Howling Blast, in my opinion 5% OB crit worth much more than 2% forst dmg.

murder187 · 07/03/10, 10:15 AM

Wrathdeity · 07/03/10, 12:06 PM

Thanks that was it

Grimraven · 07/03/10, 3:01 PM

Spreadsheet shows more dps when I have Shadow's Edge equipped in main hand and Heroic Cryptmaker in off hand
When I try to switch weapons - my expertise becomes 20/25. I then switch cloaks from Recovered Scarlet Onslaught Cape to Might of the Ocean Serpent and regem. That puts me at 26/31, but Spreadsheet shows dps still lower that in the first scenario where I have Shadow's edge in main hand and H Cryptmaker in off hand with 25/20 expertise.

What I would like to know is if this is some bug or not, because I read previous posts saying that it should be more dps when you have H Cryptmaker in your main hand instead of Shadow's edge.

Thanks!

EDIT: link is here The World of Warcraft Armory - Grimraven @ Zul'jin - Profile

murder187 · 07/03/10, 4:06 PM

Fooie · 07/03/10, 4:12 PM

In regard to the Improved Feral charge the 15/30% haste gained for 8 seconds after charge would almost make it viable to run out and charge in times of pulling energy

Skarc · 07/03/10, 6:07 PM

I bring great news from Thunderhorn EU! After organizing a run to ICC25, we finally did it and got ourselves 2228g each. Now someone has done it on this server, maybe more people will be interested and we'll get less stereotypes about the whole concept.

murder187 · 07/03/10, 10:47 PM

Nate1492 · 07/03/10, 11:07 PM

Grimraven, you have to realize some things here...

The boost to DPS isn't that huge from main to offhand. The SE is 3.7 speed, the Cryptmaker is 3.6, so that is a small factor in the DPS too.

But, The cape swap is about 30-40 DPS and the 6 extra expertise points you need take 48~ points of expertise. So, considering that's equal to arp (if you aren't capped) or some other value above str (socket bonuses after arp cap) you could expect 48 points to be worth 60 str. Translating that into DPS is based on your gear, but that should be 2.5-3.0 (I'm currently at 3.0) so that's 180 dps there. 180+40=220 DPS.... that's around the difference you would expect from swapping a weapon without gemming or gear changes.

Anyway, it's not a bug, you just are in a unique situation where standard logic doesn't hold true.

Pelinal1415 · 07/03/10, 11:52 PM

So a great deal of paladin's i have noticed are judgeing light and are the only one's judgeing light. I have never done this myself however I asked people why they do it. The vast majority say either for meter padding or because they believe that Divinity Effect's Judgement of Light. Does anyone have any proff to confirm/deny this?

I did a bit of testing on my own today, I wen't to the training dummy and judged light once while specced into divinity and as a result it healed myself for 497. The second time i did it without Divinity and It healed me for 470.

i then tryed it again with a nearby priest meleeing the mob, The priest was healed for 437 with divinity. I did it again without divinity and it healed for the same 437.

Has anyone else done recent testing on Judgement of light with Divinity?
This lead's me to believe that Divinity effects paladins Judgement of light however only for that or other paladin's specced into Divinity.

Nerdling · 07/03/10, 11:53 PM

Anyone got any ICC results to share?