Originally Posted by Tûr

Totem of Wrath will apply the same affect as Demonic Pact.

He's saying that having your demo lock stack his SP doesn't benefit the raid anymore, only that demo lock. Currently, stacking SP on the demo lock means stacking SP for the whole raid through demonic pact

Current
Demo lock has 4000 SP on his own and 4000+.1*4000 = 4400 SP with Demo Pact.
Ele Shaman has 3500 SP on his own and 3500 +.1*4000 = 3900 SP with Demo Pact.

New
Demo lock has 4000 SP on his own and 4000+.1*4000 = 4400 SP with Demo Pact.
Ele Shaman has 3500 SP on his own and 3500 +.1*3500 = 3850 SP with Demo Pact.

The change doesn't affect the SP demo locks get in anyway(aside from not getting all the gear). Just everyone else getting his buff.

Originally Posted by arch

The way I see it, for PvE (or PvP for that matter) you do your normal fireball/LB thingy, and when you see your fireball critting you weave in a scorch to force the hot streak, along with the other bonus scorch is supposed to be bringing, which haven't been implemented yet. Of course this assumes that overall critrates are reduced heavily, or fireball would be the logical choice of spell over scorch.

Originally Posted by Morthiras

Morthiras' Best Sets


Considering correct set bonuses and item proc chances as well as enchanting and tailoring, these are my updated lists for the best fire and arcane sets I came up with for my undead Horde mage:

	Morthiras' Best Fire Set	Talents: 18/53/0	DPS (Rawr): >= 15,241.49
Socket	Item	Gems	Enchant
Head	[Sanctified Bloodmage Hood]	[Chaotic Skyflare Diamond] [Purified Dreadstone] Bonus: +9 Spell Power	[Arcanum of Burning Mysteries]
Neck	[Blood Queen's Crimson Choker]	[Purified Dreadstone] Bonus: +5 Spell Power
Shoulder	[Sanctified Bloodmage Shoulderpads]	[Veiled Ametrine] Bonus: +5 Spell Power	[Greater Inscription of the Storm]
Back	[Cloak of Burning Dusk]	[Runed Cardinal Ruby] Bonus: +5 Spell Power	[Lightweave Embroidery]
Chest	[Robe of the Waking Nightmare]	[Runed Cardinal Ruby] [Purified Dreadstone] [Veiled Ametrine] Bonus: +9 Spell Power	[Enchant Chest - Powerful Stats]
Wrist	[Bracers of Fiery Night]	[Potent Ametrine] Bonus: +5 Spell Power	[Enchant Bracers - Superior Spellpower]
Hands	[Sanctified Bloodmage Gloves]	[Purified Dreadstone] Bonus: +5 Spell Power	[Enchant Gloves - Exceptional Spellpower]
Waist	[Crushing Coldwraith Belt]	[Purified Dreadstone] [Runed Cardinal Ruby] [Runed Cardinal Ruby] Bonus: +7 Spell Power	[Eternal Belt Buckle]
Legs	[Sanctified Bloodmage Leggings]	[Purified Dreadstone] [Veiled Ametrine] Bonus: +7 Spell Power	[Sanctified Spellthread]
Feet	[Plague Scientist's Boots]	[Purified Dreadstone] [Potent Ametrine] Bonus: +7 Spell Power	[Enchant Boots - Tuskarr's Vitality]
Finger	[Ashen Band of Endless Destruction]	[Potent Ametrine] Bonus: +5 Spell Power	[Enchant Ring - Greater Spellpower]
Finger	[Ring of Rapid Ascent]	[Purified Dreadstone] Bonus: +5 Spell Power	[Enchant Ring - Greater Spellpower]
Trinket	[Phylactery of the Nameless Lich]
Trinket	[Charred Twilight Scale]
Main Hand	[Bloodsurge, Kel'Thuzad's Blade of Agony]	[Runed Cardinal Ruby] Bonus: +5 Spell Power	[Enchant Weapon - Black Magic]
Off Hand	[Shadow Silk Spindle]
Ranged	[Corpse-Impaling Spike]	[Potent Ametrine] Bonus: +5 Spell Power
Summary (Rawr)	Spell Power: 3,812 Hit Rating 367 (16.99%) Crit Rating: 1,650.55 (69.94%) Haste Rating: 1,043 (42.55%)

	Morthiras' Best Arcane Set	Talents: 57/3/11	DPS (Rawr): >= 14,981.91
Socket	Item	Gems	Enchant
Head	[Sanctified Bloodmage Hood]	[Chaotic Skyflare Diamond] [Purified Dreadstone] Bonus: +9 Spell Power	[Arcanum of Burning Mysteries]
Neck	[Amulet of the Silent Eulogy]	[Reckless Ametrine] Bonus: +5 Spell Power
Shoulder	[Sanctified Bloodmage Shoulderpads]	[Reckless Ametrine] Bonus: +5 Spell Power	[Greater Inscription of the Storm]
Back	[Cloak of Burning Dusk]	[Runed Cardinal Ruby] Bonus: +5 Spell Power	[Lightweave Embroidery]
Chest	[Sanctified Bloodmage Robe]	[Runed Cardinal Ruby] [Purified Dreadstone] Bonus: +7 Spell Power	[Enchant Chest - Powerful Stats]
Wrist	[Bracers of Fiery Night]	[Runed Cardinal Ruby] Bonus: +5 Spell Power	[Enchant Bracers - Superior Spellpower]
Hands	[San'layn Ritualist Gloves]	[Reckless Ametrine] [Purified Dreadstone] Bonus: +7 Spell Power	[Enchant Gloves - Exceptional Spellpower]
Waist	[Crushing Coldwraith Belt]	[Purified Dreadstone] [Runed Cardinal Ruby] [Runed Cardinal Ruby] Bonus: +7 Spell Power	[Eternal Belt Buckle]
Legs	[Sanctified Bloodmage Leggings]	[Purified Dreadstone] [Reckless Ametrine] Bonus: +7 Spell Power	[Sanctified Spellthread]
Feet	[Plague Scientist's Boots]	[Purified Dreadstone] [Runed Cardinal Ruby] Bonus: +7 Spell Power	[Enchant Boots - Tuskarr's Vitality]
Finger	[Ashen Band of Endless Destruction]	[Reckless Ametrine] Bonus: +5 Spell Power	[Enchant Ring - Greater Spellpower]
Finger	[Ring of Rapid Ascent]	[Purified Dreadstone] Bonus: +5 Spell Power	[Enchant Ring - Greater Spellpower]
Trinket	[Charred Twilight Scale]
Trinket	[Dislodged Foreign Object]
Main Hand	[Bloodsurge, Kel'Thuzad's Blade of Agony]	[Runed Cardinal Ruby] Bonus: +5 Spell Power	[Enchant Weapon - Black Magic]
Off Hand	[Shadow Silk Spindle]
Ranged	[Corpse-Impaling Spike]	[Reckless Ametrine] Bonus: +5 Spell Power
Summary (Rawr)	Spell Power: 4,160 Hit Rating 217 (14.27%) Crit Rating: 1,316.5 (67.37%) Haste Rating: 1,493 (66.84%)

I'll update this post when new items are discovered or if Rawr starts to tell me something entirely different...

Originally Posted by Spepijn

I've been messing around with the beta talents a bit (I know not final but still) and I was hoping on some feedback (esp from someone that could test it on the beta)

Link

With this specc we got both Pillar of Frost and Unholy Frenzy (we lose out on the garg but I think 20% str for 20 sec on a 1 min cd will compensate).
We also got 35% melee haste from talents and 15% shorter rune cd (when in unholy)
Also we have 60 sec diseases (69 if glyph of SS is used) so we never have to cast PS on a boss fight.
Now if only they make Obli only cost 1 frost rune....
Anyhow, any thoughts on this?