Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 1202

Salyna · 07/12/10, 2:51 PM

In the Feral DPS Discussion thread there are two BiS lists in the first post, one for pre-Hardmode ICC and one for post-hardmode ICC. The only thing that confuses me in these lists and is not intuitive is the change of [Death's Choice] in the pre-list to [Herkuml War Token] in the post-list. Going from a 258 Deaths Choice to a Herkuml War Totem is strange because both items are available to both lists. The only reason that I could think of that the change might occur is that the Death's Choice Agility Proc might mean less if the Post-Hardmode list was crit capped and all you got from the proc was the AP conversion, therefore making the Herkuml the better choice since no stats are wasted. Unfortunately the list does not mention which/both are crit capped, so I can only go on assumption unless I want to add it all up(not something I'm in the position to do right at this moment). However, if I am correct would it be true that a 258 Death's Choice is the BiS second trinket until you are crit capped and that Herkuml only surpasses it when you reach the crit cap(something I'm decently far from)?

This is all made irrelevant by the new trinket from Halion, but assuming we live in a world where I can't get that trinket for a while(which I do) then this is all valid.

Bobfred21 · 07/12/10, 3:14 PM

What kinds of macros are you guys using to swap sigils? I'm having trouble combining the two swaps into the same macro.

Thnika · 07/12/10, 3:40 PM

with there being a diminished value of haste past soft cap and crit past its cap. would there be any viable gear setup that involves using more spirit gear for the added spell power?

example would be like using tier pants and the spirit/crit chest. or using the spirit crit boots and spirit haste neck?

also with possibly going with more crit and spirit on those other pieces we would go with DFO and the new haste trink to make sure our haste didnt fall too much.

Eyria · 07/12/10, 4:43 PM

Ok, nowdays I only see Affliction and lots of Demonology Warlocks. I've heard that potentially Affliction does much more DPS than Destruction. But is it true? Is Destruction no longer viable for pve raiding? Are we all forced to be affliction or demonology? Is there any good warlock in a really good guild that still plays as Destruction?

Ladon · 07/12/10, 7:09 PM

Originally Posted by Afabar

The EP generated by the sim only give the proc value. You have to add the static EP value of the trinket.

Ahh, my bad then.
Still a newbie at Kahorie's.

Extenze · 07/12/10, 8:01 PM

I used Baltharus' Gift, instead of Sindragosa's Cruel Claw, which let me replace some exp gems with haste
Band of the Night Raven instead of Nerub Stalker's Cord cuz I was too far over crit cap
taiaj instead of the Scale

I also have JC and the expertise dragons eye lets me go only 2 over exp cap, which makes this work easier, wasn't sure if I should post the report/build. Other than that it should be the same as the OP

DPS 13203.93

furrymage · 07/12/10, 8:29 PM

Originally Posted by Lgs

Are you locked in matching gem slots?

just looking at what's been posted in the optimal sets thread

Aarpia · 07/12/10, 10:56 PM

Literally the post directly before yours explains in detail how to do it.

ave416 · 07/12/10, 11:05 PM

I read through the post and wasn't able to determine whether it would be better for me to get 4p t9 or 2pt9 2pt10. In determining what has more value, do you add the stat weight bonuses of the individual pieces PLUS the weight of the set bonuses? or are the set bonus weights independent of the stat weights?

thanks

mimitutu · 07/12/10, 11:52 PM

For my gear with 3T10.25 + 2 T9.25, my dps is 11701.78

Zeherah's Hunter DPS Analyzer

Got the Leggings of Northern Lights, so plan to switch to 4T10.25, but surprisingly I lost 36.74 dps

Zeherah's Hunter DPS Analyzer

This does not sounds that right. Could some expert help to have a look?

Thanks a lot!

Talothan · 07/12/10, 11:57 PM

Simple Question:

Where is the Destro thread? I can see it on my phone, but not on my PC.

Rushton · 07/13/10, 12:18 AM

The destro thread doesn't recieve many posts so it gets hidden by the default setting. To change it, go to the bottom the page where display options are and choose to display from the last 2 months or so.

Talothan · 07/13/10, 12:23 AM

Originally Posted by Rushton

The destro thread doesn't recieve many posts so it gets hidden by the default setting. To change it, go to the bottom the page where display options are and choose to display from the last 2 months or so.

Thank you very much.

Aureaus · 07/13/10, 4:07 AM

I've had a few questions which need to be cleared up changing spec from Holy/Ret into Holy/Prot and any help would be greatly appreciated.
I am currently raiding and it is what I plan to do as a holy paladin. Lets begin.

1. Many paladins are specced into Holy/Prot. This gives me Divine Guardian & Sacrifice as opposed to the +8% crit I currently have whilst specced into Holy/Ret. I have noticed that nearly all specs contain 3/3 Improved Righteous Fury which mitigates damage taken by 6%. Having Righteous Fury up, however, will increase my my holy spells to increase threat by 80%. Is it safe to use this in ICC? Which bosses should this NOT be used in? How do you guys utilize Righteous Fury effectively?

2. Is there a macro to 'click' Righteous Fury to turn it on, and if I want to turn Righteous Fury off, I click it again?

3. Divine Sacrifice activates Divine Guardian which mitigates 20% damage on the entire raid. Even if you cancel Divine Sacrifice immediately, Divine Guardian still persists throughout the raid. Is this what you do? Or do you let Divine Sacrifice do its thing? If so, do you use bubble in conjunction with this?

4. Hand of Sacrifice is a spell I have very rarely used up until now. Do you guys use a macro with this? Do you use this spell in conjunction with Divine Sacrifice? Bubble? How do you utilize this effectively?

That is all for the time being. I hope I can gather many ideas out of these questions, any help would be greatly appreciated.

-Aureaus.

yarb23 · 07/13/10, 4:08 AM

Leather won't be any good for warriors in Cata.
You will, as said above, items will have less stats than today and on top of it if your a main plate user, you won't gain mastery for equiping leather, even if it haves mastery on it you won't get it since is not your main profency.

But yes, seems for Cata that Crit will have the top value for warriors. Maybe or maybe not. Haste seems to be the flavor of the expa and Hit the must have. But as seeing that via doing crits will become the only way to generate more rage, its the closest one to become the preferable. Also we don't know how mastery will impact our dps and class mechanics. So this are just prematures thoughs.

Edit: Remember too that the way talent trees work today(even the lastest releases on MMO-champ) are completely outdated since they are now changing the way talent trees works and lots of things they really now got rid of em(finally)