Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 1212

Madok · 07/19/10, 5:31 PM

Simple question...best way to level? arms or fury? and dual wield or 2h? thanks.

Lawsatt · 07/19/10, 5:56 PM

Which yellow gem would be considered better for an Arcance Mage, Reckless Ametrine (12 sp + 10 Haste rating) or Quick King's Amber (20 Haste Rating)? I am not yet haste capped if that helps determine the answer.

Arcanuss · 07/19/10, 6:25 PM

Originally Posted by Lawsatt

Which yellow gem would be considered better for an Arcance Mage, Reckless Ametrine (12 sp + 10 Haste rating) or Quick King's Amber (20 Haste Rating)? I am not yet haste capped if that helps determine the answer.

Always gem your yellow sockets with sp/haste as opposed to pure haste, it will give you more DPS as well as more DPM.

Aeviana · 07/19/10, 9:43 PM

Does anyone have any experience with DW with 1 handed weapons? the new talent in cata would make it even more ridiculous than it currently is (my gear is pretty awful and i've peaked at tics of over 5k on saurfang).

Larzadon · 07/19/10, 10:20 PM

hi im new to druid tanking could someone inform me the attributes/gems/type of gear like what weapon type would be the best to use. thank you for help

Larzadon · 07/19/10, 10:55 PM

what gems/ enchants are best for druid bear tanking and what attributes are best to have along with what equip bonuses

Xuon · 07/19/10, 11:58 PM

I'm confused... for Mutilate spec, some rogues gem Attack Power and Haste.... some rogues gem Agility and Haste.... some rogues just gem all Attack Power.... which maximizes DPS?

leonidas the king · 07/20/10, 7:54 AM

I believe the health buff will be greatly beneficial to us in most situations.It gets pretty aggravating when healers forget about the "soft"class.As for smoke bomb,The way i'm taking this is like this,It will bring in the ranged and make it easier on the tanks.I'm concerned with tricks of the trade,I've been in groups where my damage is so op that without tricks being as strong as it is, the whole group could have wiped.now they want to weaken it.This will be an issue i would say in a patch after the release.

Kevn · 07/20/10, 9:52 AM

drunk people make me wipe...

sammyjcarlson · 07/20/10, 10:14 AM

I apologize if this has been answered but I couldn't find it. I know that no one can absolutely answer which is better Arcane or Fire (aside from opinion), but I have been doing research and I am coming to the conclusion that Arcane is better DPS for 5 mans and lower end raiding (everything but ICC) but fire becomes better in ICC. Can anyone say why? (i have heard its a result of gear) So my question is, Which spec is better OVERALL (i know some fights favor specs over others, forget that) for high end raiding, and why is one better than the other? Wowwikki still has arcane listed as highest dps but I have seen posts and sites that have fire over arcane for ICC (10 or 25?). anyone have a thought? I was hoping for some good info and facts rather than just an opinion, if possible.

So, to sum up my question, what spec is better for DPS these days, Fire, or Arcane?

Doroteasenjk · 07/20/10, 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by sammyjcarlson

... no one can absolutely answer which is better Arcane or Fire...

So, to sum up my question, what spec is better for DPS these days, Fire, or Arcane?

You answered your own question. There are two ways to answer it for yourself: try it out in game, or use Rawr.mage to simulate the various fights against the two specs. If you use the gear that you have available to do the comparison, you will soon know which spec might be better for you. Then it is up to you to learn to play that spec to its fullest.

Raxxamillion · 07/20/10, 11:48 AM

Been doing some testing on UH 2h on the Cataclysm Server

Obliterate (untalented) hits for roughly twice that of SS so I think with 3 points in anihilation (facilitated by IIT and whatever replaces RE) will give an alternative attack when a FU combination is available but diseases do not need refreshing.

Did some quick parses:-

SS in UH Presence World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis 3400dps

OB in Frost Presence World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis 4222 dps

Not very scientific I know, but best I can manage, both have extra Blood strikes due to runic empowerment making death runes back into blood runes /facepalm so presumeably both will be higher when RE works as intended.

Quickly changed my tank spec into 2h frost dps and had a quick go at that (never ever played frost before)

World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis 6156 dps

Excuse the crumby disease uptimes on these, didnt think they were that bad, but on further testing, it would seem that IT and PS can hit but not apply the disease from time to time :-/

lonewolf452 · 07/20/10, 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by RubbieBubbie

The shards will heap up pretty quick, so here is a nice macro I stole from MMO champ:
/run i="Soul Shard"d=GetItemCount(i)-20 for x=0,4 do for y=1,GetContainerNumSlots(x) do if (d>0) then l=GetContainerItemLink(x,y) if l and GetItemInfo(l)==i then PickupContainerItem(x,y) DeleteCursorItem() d=d-1 end end end end
Replace 20 with the number of shards you want to keep. Click this macro once to destroy all but this number.

I'm new to my Blood Elf Warlock and now have 3 shards, what do I use them for exactly?

iCynth · 07/20/10, 12:48 PM

I've googled and googled so many times for good non outdated resources for Frost Mage PVP. I really want to get into the arena with my first 80. I got geared up, 500 resilience, and got the trinket ready, but I still don't have the skill to back it up.

I will not ask for hand holding or how to play mage. But I would like to know where the best site to go to actually learn how to PVP. I've found Arena Junkies and Warcraft movies, but I feel as if I need more than these. Anyone know where to go besides these two sites, or maybe a warcraft PVP forum? (I don't really like Blizzard's forums, as the community isn't exactly friendly)

I'm sorry. I'm new here, and I greatly apologize if I have broken any rules.

Strydorne · 07/20/10, 1:35 PM

Im a bit confused.

I tried to read through the few threads to find what I am looking but after dozens and dozens of posts that relate to older versions of WoW I decided it may be best to post and ask what I am trying to learn.

I have a hunter... he is dual specced SV and MM.

When I started playing WoW BM was king. Then it switched to SV when 3... came out. Now Im a bit confused. It seems 50% of the people I speak t o say MM is the best dps and the other 50 say SV is the way to go.

Ive been running with MM lately.

Also, Id like to ask what the best rotation for each of these specs is.

My dps sucks... my gs is 4400 but I have a hard time getting my dps to go any higher than 1300 - 1500. Im guessing its the rotation I am using because MaxDPS.com says that according to my stats I should be about 3900dps. Whether this is true or not I dont know but I do know that 1500 is poor for a hunter.

I dont really have any shot macros... should I have one?

what I do for my rotation currently is this:

Chimera, Arcane, serpent sting, steady, steady, Arcane, Chimera, steady, steady, stready, and always hit chimera and arcane every time they are off CD. Should i be add some silencing shot to my rotation? How about Kill shot?

Id love to hear what everyone else is using for their rotation please.

Thank you
Strydorne, 80 Hunter Akama