Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 1239

Skrigg · 08/18/10, 12:11 AM

Guys can you help me please:

Heroic Bryntroll or Shadow's Edge?
Darkmoon Card: Greatness or the Emblems of Frost trinket?

shadowreh · 08/18/10, 1:22 AM

Long time reader, first time poster

being my guilds paladin classleader i am quite fond with discussions about all speccs and various things but what gives me headaches lateley is the usage of Prot paladin trinkets.
if i remember correctly all we wanted was :
unidentifiable organ ( whatever version )
sindragosa's flawless fang (same)
corroded skeleton key (if none of the above)

now, there is a TON of paladins on my server and wherever that is using corpse tongue coin.
i was battling and raging against it especially on my guilds paladin tanks for months.
now i took a closer look at their rawr sheets and had to notice that corpse tongue coin is preferred over corroded skeleton key.
could someone with more brain explain why that is and if by any chance i didnt told my guys complete crap for months ?

another question : i also told about my whole raid that i dont want em to show up if they dont put tuskarr/cat's on their boots or specc into +runspeed (ret/prot/mutilate). now a lot of the people are complaining and threatening to leave the guild. i am still convinced that runspeed is one of the most important things to itemize for all classes, or am i horribly wrong here too ? ( and yeah, i posted a theorycrafting explaination on our forums to clarify why tuskarr/cat's is so important to every class)

JMoe · 08/18/10, 5:50 AM

Hey all! I have a question about gemming haste vs ap. I use the rogue mut spreadsheet from this site. Now I switched from stacking haste to stacking attack power. When I input my stats and item information into the spreadsheet, it tells me to gem haste, but when I start entering in haste to see the difference in dps it will make, the spreadsheet then changes to gem attack power. I tried looking up other rogues and talking to other rogues, but the consensus is they are not sure either, some stack haste while other stack attack power. Is there an optimal number for ap and haste? Sorry if this has already been asked, I tried reading through the forums, but could not find the answer.

Tinwhisker · 08/18/10, 7:03 AM

Adding more of one stat increases the value of the others. At some point (which is different for everyone) the sheets will flip-flop on suggestions. In all cases though, do not just gem whatever it tells you to; gem for whatever gives you the higher DPS. I promise you one is higher than the other.

Harmiona · 08/18/10, 8:24 AM

I have big problem with grid ... yesterday i log on my friend account and play his char...
Today i log to my account and i see my grid... (deflaut profil)
On my friends account grid looks fine... on my account grid is deflaut
I lost all profiles on my grid ... anyone know how i can restore my profiles?

Tihob · 08/18/10, 8:30 AM

Hello Guys,

i got a question... If my Feral got 100% ARP rating, which stat is now better?

- Strength, to increase my AP
- Agility, to increase my AP and my Crit
or Haste, to increase the OOC proccs

i know that hit and expertice is the next cap, but then?

I hope you can help me

clintz967 · 08/18/10, 9:34 AM

hey guys,

Im pretty desperate to find out whether or not my damage is right on mutilate. Im a rogue with about 4k AP unbuffed, 15% armpen and roughly 38% crit. My question to you is, how much should i be mutilating a paladin with 1k resilience with sacred shield up, considering i have 2x wrathful daggers and poisons on the target? any help would be nice

Liniris · 08/18/10, 9:58 AM

Hey warlocomotif, would you be able to post the BiS list you made without the H LK weapon? My guild (as many are) is 11/12 HM and the heroic version of rigormortis messes with your hit. That list is basically my goal because Bloodsurge seems a few months away

Thanks!

Exemplar · 08/18/10, 11:10 AM

And that's utterly reasonable. BG (PvP in general) didn't even cross my mind. Probably due to my personal bias, as I actually like to be able to control my character. Watching my toon stand in place or run randomly for prolonged periods due to CC effects fails to entertain me, just fast forward to where I'm faceplanted on the ground, please.

StoicRoivaS · 08/18/10, 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by JMoe

Hey all! I have a question about gemming haste vs ap. I use the rogue mut spreadsheet from this site. Now I switched from stacking haste to stacking attack power. When I input my stats and item information into the spreadsheet, it tells me to gem haste, but when I start entering in haste to see the difference in dps it will make, the spreadsheet then changes to gem attack power. I tried looking up other rogues and talking to other rogues, but the consensus is they are not sure either, some stack haste while other stack attack power. Is there an optimal number for ap and haste? Sorry if this has already been asked, I tried reading through the forums, but could not find the answer.

Read my responses to the same question a few posts up on this page to get a better idea of your optimal gemming in this situation. If you're right on the inflection point, your optimal gemming is most likely going to be a mix of both ap and haste, and not "stacking" either of them fully.

_Evasive_ · 08/18/10, 12:58 PM

I am currently using Wrathful Gladiator's Shiv - Item - World of Warcraft in my offhand due to the speed. I do not know how to put it into a spreadsheet, but I was curious if it is better or worse than Steel Bladebreaker - Item - World of Warcraft.

Any help is appreciated, thanks.

Kactuz · 08/18/10, 1:37 PM

Bringing back an old topic that faded out but what was the final out come in using Black Magic? Rawr and Toskks both show BM being subpar to Mongoose and Zerker. Rawr has Mongoose better for me and Toskks has Zerker as the best enchant for me. Both do show BM being a 50-100 dps loss.

_Evasive_ · 08/18/10, 2:45 PM

Originally Posted by Armanewb

On the spreadsheets, if you right click a sheet tab (on the bottom) you can Unhide the Equipment tab. From there it's just making sure you don't stuff it up copy-pasting-editing an existing row.

As for the AP vs Haste decision, what I've noticed is that, more than anything, getting a Heroic Whispering Fanged Skull bumps haste to the forefront (on the spreadsheet), while not having that (e.g. TAiaJ and Herkuml) tends to sit you at the AP/Haste inflection point.

Thank you for the help, but apparently my question was stupid.

Trueshott · 08/18/10, 3:34 PM

Hey Drudkh I really like how you edited kripp's ui can you post it? in a download?

Thomo15 · 08/18/10, 3:38 PM

Originally Posted by titusdotel

Agreed, PvP hijinks with succubus can ensue, as well as some rather interesting PvP mechanics, Instant Soul Fire, Teleport w/ Increased Speed for 8 secs and 20% more total health. Warlock PvP has become rather interesting to me again.

Metamorph no longer affected by Demon CC.

Loads of interesting spell rotations going off in my head, as well, like Conflag then 3x Soul Fires ( no shard cost anymore ) followed by Fel Fire to reset duration of immolate, then Soul Fire spamming again.

Can't wait to continue reading other ppls ideas here.

I do have to agree, soul fire spam in place of incinerate spam...... surely resetting a dot timer is the same as clipping the dot is it not? as you havnt let the dot tick through all the way...still i'm quite pleased with the upcoming changes.