Rime will show up if you have a few helpful addons, or on the stock ui that is when you should cast howling blast, but if rime and killing machine proc at the same time use frost strike..your rotation is a bit off ps, it, bs, ob, pest....then from there obliterate as much as u want then fs dump then pest to reset diseases blood strike and obliterate and fs to dump

The buff you receive from Rime is called "Freezing Fog." Addons such as Need To Know bars or Power Auras can be set up to track this as well as Killing Machine's buff which is simply "Killing Machine." Freezing Fog has a relatively long duration. It is long enough that you can make sure you are not wasting a KM proc on it or missing out on refreshing your diseases to use it. KM procs are for Frost Strike only unless in an AoE situation. Rime procs are great for situations where your runes are on CD, you don't have a KM proc, and you don't have excess runic power.

Sorry for the double post, remove please.

My realm unholy players fight for the best aoe rotation when you use [Frost Sub-spec Without Reaping] | 0/17/54 , can you give your, please.

and can you tell me if i need to be expertise capped with this spe,some people said yes, some no, so i'm a bit confused.

Thank you

Like the title say is there any link to the paly talent builds please!

Thank you!

I have a question about spell penetration against a paladin's shadow resistance aura. In the even that I, as a shadow priest, went up against a paladin or group with a shadow resistance aura, how much spell penetration would it take to eat though that? I used the formula you were all talking about and it seems really high. A shadow resistance aura gives 130 shadow resistance. If the formula is Res/(Level*5)*0.75 = SP: then in this case we would have 130/(80*5)*0.75 = 0.24375 or 24%. That really just isn't possible or practical because there are so many other classes to address in an arena situation. Really I think the best answer is, use binary spells like mind flay and let the melee or non-shadow spell dps take out the paladin.

Thanks for the advice, it's definitely appreciated! I was opening with garrote and then sin strike 2 times before the SnD. I'll definitely change it up now that I know better.

Makes sense now. Noticed that and I have Msbt to show me that now

Last night on dummies did 3k dps with only HoW as buff. Went much better than last time
quite tricky mechanic...

I've got a little question about Expertise calculation. Is it interpolated linearly in the spreadsheet? I'm asking because regemming a 16 exp for a 20 exp decreases DPS although I wouldn't go down an expertise "level" (before and after regemming my exp would be 25).

Why you might ask? Well, simply by looking at the availability of loot in ICC. Assassination rogues wants loots of haste, anyway that's what my speadsheet's telling me time to time. Combat rogues (and ferals for that matter) wants ArPen. So blizzard made it really simple for the latter for some reasen. You can buy more ArPen leather with EoF, than non-ArPen. You can craft both, but if you pick the one without ArPen, you get a shitload of expertise instead. Yeah, that nice, _assuming_ you actually need more expertise.

Blizzard practically throws ArPen loot at you in ICC25, even throws in a "combat optimized" trinket off final boss in first wing. Very pugable. A trinket "optimized" for assassination would be Tiny Abom in jar, I guess. Bummer, it drops from one of the harder bosses, that usaully don't get puged.

-"There's load if non-arpen leather in ICC25", you might say. Yeah, there is, but blizzard simply swaps out ArPen for Hit and Expertise for some strange reason, assuming those stats are equally beneficial for mutilation as ArPen for combat. Heck, you can't even get a off-hand dagger that's doen't have ArPen (gz fist combat rogues). So many assassination rogues end's up with half of their gear with ArPen, simply cause it's more available, and/or _alot_ of hit.

Some assassination rogues are even forced to roll OS for ArPen loot if another combat rogue is rolling.

-"So what's your question!?". Well here it comes;

What stat on a piece of leather would make that piece off specc for a combat rogue? And where do I find gear with that stat, that doesn't also have hit or expertise?

Loot rules have nothing to do with rogues or theorycrafting.