Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 1252

Deadstar · 09/02/10, 10:08 AM

The lightning shield glyph makes it a permanent buff basically. When you get attacked it doesn't lose charges, and it doesn't lose charges from static shock procs. It's a major glyph.

Just to clear things up, for Enhancement we've got...

Prime Glyphs:
Lava Burst

Major Glyphs:
Shamanistic Rage
Grounding Totem
Chain Lightning (5 targets!)
Fire Nova
Hex
Healing Stream
Totemic Recall
Ghost Wolf

Minor Glyphs:
Arctic Wolf

yekim · 09/02/10, 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by MasterDinadan

Finishers do not depend on the weapon speed or damage whatsoever. Envenom's damage is based only on your AP and nothing else. So really, the only reason it matters is because finishers can PROC things from the main hand.

The advantage to wielding the slower weapon in the main hand is that your mutilates hit slightly harder.

However it is always advantageous to put instant poison on the faster weapon, and since finishers CAN proc poisons (and other effects) from your main hand, you will be able to proc IP on finishers if you put the faster weapon MH. Turns out this is more useful than getting slightly more damage out of your mutilates.

From Pocket Guide:

Originally posted by Tinwhisker.

PvE Mutilate, fast and flawed advice
Highest DPS dagger mainhand, have at least one fast dagger in either hand.
Fastest dagger - Deadly Poison, Other dagger - Instant Poison.

Pocket Guide says it's been updated for 3.3, that other post was made like 2 years ago. So is the first post just outdated and the proper MH/OH set-up is what's listed in the Pocket Guide?

Xaoc · 09/02/10, 12:14 PM

You pretty much answered your own question there. The post made by MasterDinadan was two years ago, so yes, that post is out dated. The proper weapon setups are listed in the OP for the thread.

Tukuto · 09/02/10, 2:49 PM

Is expertise cap important in your off hand weapon? I get a +3 exp bonus from using swords and mace. So it puts them off balance if I use an axe.

Drdoom · 09/03/10, 5:30 AM

* Grid (Recommended): Raid UI that can show the health and mana of all players. It also shows incoming heals from other healers using Grid, including HoTs. It also displays debuffs on players that can help you react more quickly to damage in the raid.
* Clique (Recommended): Mod to cast heals by mousing over a raid frame and clicking. Use it with Grid or another raid UI.
* Shaman Friend: Audible warnings when an elemental shield or weapon buff expires. Can report a successful purge, interrupt or grounding to party or raid channel.
* Healbot: Functions much like Grid + Clique. However, Grid is recommended for higher-end raiding due to its display of debuffs.

I currently use healbot but am considering switching to clique and grids..how much different and more effective is the debuff display because healbot shows me a good amount or at least i thought.

Chocobrownie · 09/03/10, 9:37 AM

So I am gearing up in PvP and just got my Medallion of the Horde. I currently use Tiny Abomination in a Jar (ilvl 277) and Herkuml War Token.

I am not too sure which to keep, I am leaning toward the Tiny Abomination in a Jar because of the proc lasting while not fighting, Herkuml would just drop off during downtime and the fights aren't often long enough to stack up. However, I currently have 10.19% hit with Tiny Abom equipped since I haven't geared up the rest of my set yet. I am getting the trinket for it's high resilience rather than the set, as it is low at the moment.

Any thoughts?

bozolino · 09/03/10, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by Frmercury

Having a good trinket breakdown would be a nice addition. Some consolidated specifics on Mp5 values, proc rates and chances, etc.

I would agree with you on the point of Disc ideally running H Solace / H Althor's. Imo the Disc BiS isn't very complicated, especially since GoPW:S now triggers on heal procs.

i think it would be better if you switch the legs for woven death and use the t10 healer chest

-10sp for 2% crit is better imo, and we don't need that much haste anyway

Decayer · 09/03/10, 11:46 AM

Would it be a DPS loss for me to switch my current MH (Bloodvenom Blade, HC) with my current OH (Havoc's Call, normal)? The reason that I ask this is because with the axe in my mainhand i'll get 26 exp rating and 21 on my offhand and since ToT makes it impossible for me to miss a strike with my offhand i figured that it might be better, even tho bloodvenom has higher max dmg.

What do you guys think?

� esir · 09/03/10, 11:54 AM

Zod 264 or [Stakethrower] 264??

erogizer · 09/03/10, 9:01 PM

how to delete this post ?

Troggbane · 09/03/10, 10:05 PM

Just throwing this out there... I've been doing some dummy testing and found that if i start in unholy presence and swap to blood, it's a large spike increase. The rotation looks like this:

(unholy presence)
DnD+army (4piece proc)
it-ps-ob-bs-bt/ua(engi gloves)-pest
(blood fury+raise dead+ERW)
(swap to blood presence immediately after ERW)
ob-ob-fs dump-ob-ob-pest

Anybody ever test this setup? Seems to work pretty well, haven't tried it in raid yet though...

huester · 09/04/10, 12:03 PM

Hi There

I downloaded the spreadsheet and find it very complicated to use.

On the heroic dummy I do 4k Dps. Is this good or bad.

What am I doing wrong, Using wrong gems or rotation or talent tree.

Rotation is Cod, Imm, Cflag, Chao bolt and span incinerate. I try and keep life tap up aswell.

here is my armoury link.

The World of Warcraft Armory - Luciefer @ Bronzebeard - Profile

Please help.

thanks again

huester

Rufix · 09/04/10, 1:09 PM

Soo reading last few pages, you say that Black Magic and Mongoose both beat Berserking? While I understand Mongoose (agi+haste) pure haste seems simply stupid to me, can someone explain it to me quickly (no need for maths or something)? If it's been discussed here (haste benefits) I'm sorry just lemme know I'll dig for it

Also, what should I do when I have 5 CPs, 5sec on Rip and ~10sec on SR if I get "More powerful spell is currently active" info when I try to reapply rip? Waiting 5seconds is loss of SR, SR'ing is loss of Rip? FB seems good idea, but I'd rather ask you people.

tufy · 09/04/10, 4:24 PM

I have a little guessing question for you guys. What's wrong with this picture?

http://media.mmo-champion.com/images...33_weapons.jpg

Throktar · 09/04/10, 5:53 PM

The weapon damage of the one handed caster weapon seems incredibly low compared to the item level.

I´m guessing it will be be fixed.

EDIT: Added guess.