Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 1277

Lucero · 10/05/10, 5:35 AM

Good heads up Thanks

Stardusty · 10/05/10, 8:02 AM

GC is probably alluding to one of their current internal builds, but:

Hammer of the Righteous/Crusader Strike Cooldown
Crusader Strike - 3 sec cooldown. Hammer of the Righteous - 3 sec cooldown. Cooldown shared for both.
Source

This leaves our haste scaling with autoattack, seal damage, Censure, Exo glyph, Consecration, HoL procs from mastery, and frees up one talent point as well unless they replace Sanctity of battle with something mandatory. On the bright side, it resolves all <1 gcd issues brought up by the differences in haste through the tiers.

Charybdis · 10/05/10, 8:08 AM

"Therefore, we are going to try Crusader Strike on a 3 second cooldown for Protection only. Hammer of the Righteous will have the same cooldown." Blue post halfway down the page

Ret will still have CS scaling with haste.

Soulblazer · 10/05/10, 8:09 AM

Delete please, already answered above.

Ailuromass · 10/05/10, 8:18 AM

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Redundant post.

Meggriffin · 10/05/10, 8:28 AM

Originally Posted by Deradralol

That being said, I was curious as to how is everyone planning to reforge their gear?

I am also pretty confused about this.
I am thinking if worth reforge on maestery cause it give absorb that could be translated as more HP for us. This also because Dodge and Parry got diminishing return so i think that absorb could be better.

I dont know on paper if this is right. If someone can give some feedback or some numbers about tests done about this i'll appreciate so much.

Garro · 10/05/10, 9:59 AM

Originally Posted by Overweight

I beleive the current rotation is

CS>Filler>CS>Filler>CS>Finisher

Has anyone ran the numbers on the minimum required haste needed (pre-raid buff) in order to run the above rotation smoothly? on PTR (with haste buff), I found out that after a filler, there is a about 0.4 seconds (exculding GCD) till the next CS is available.

~Thalia~ · 10/05/10, 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by matornot

I've seen a few posts here talking about reforging, but I don't think any of them also considered gemming. It's the general concensus that the stat order is hit>mastery>haste>crit, but where does intellect fit in? If intellect is valued between hit and mastery, then the best thing to do would be to gem intellect and reforge for hit until capped, then mastery. But if mastery is more valuable than intellect, then we'd want to use gems to get to get hit capped to allow as many reforges toward mastery as possible.

You can only reforge rating stats such as haste, crit, hit. Core stats such as stamina or intellect cannot be reforged.

Kalazar · 10/05/10, 12:26 PM

I read the post wrong. Please delete.

Mjoedgaard · 10/05/10, 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by Kalazar

I know that GC tried to spell it out, but do we know that that is how it is working? In his posts, that we literally minutes apart, he says first;

"We changed Rune Strike to: after a dodge or parry or whenever you are in Blood Presence."

Then someone asked;

"We can use RS any time we have 20 RP if we are in blood presence, No cd other then GCD. No need for avoidance to light it up."

And he responds with;

"Correct."

These are actually two different things.

Actully it is the same. RS cost 20 RP, now you have to dodge or parry and have 20 RP to use RS.
In 4.0.1 you can either use RS after a dodge or a parry (and have 20 RP) or be in BP and have 20 RP.

Kulgoss · 10/05/10, 12:52 PM

This new blue post will change things for Rune Strike macros from an Unholy standpoint.

Rune Strike
We changed Rune Strike to: after a dodge or parry or whenever you are in Blood Presence.

Fordragon · 10/05/10, 12:59 PM

Don't know if this has been brought up,but do you think that with 4.0.1 it's going to be better to change the 10strength/10crit gems to 20str or to 10str/10 haste?

bpmdu · 10/05/10, 2:20 PM

For those of you have tested 4.01 on the PTR, are combat rogues dead post 4.01 pre Cata? With the ingenious decision to remove any interesting stats (i.e. arpen) it sounds as though Combat will be gimped dps-wise. Is this accurate? I hate to lose my main spec..

cacha · 10/05/10, 2:21 PM

have been out for a while and wanna make sure on mechanics . am raiding with 3300 sp haste of 750'ish and hit of around 14% {i know too high is all gear] spirit is low by example think like 950'ish in comparison of int of like 1500'ish {all from memory} with amps from gear or abilities sp jumps too 4700 max and have the rotation from max dps. question is ... why the hell is my dps not as high as others of lower gs at times?? went to heroes and copied the talent specs and glyphs of the highest gs on my realm have the aformentioned numbers and still dont see the numbers i should see from my opinon.. single target no interrupts {ergo flames licking your ass ... running to find next target etc} i do 10k + but thats a non realistic expectation as all mechanics of raids call for constant movment etc. know a abundance of info but any advice etc would be appreciated.. am a weekend player as wife kids life allow but would prefer not to be a fail

Khigab · 10/05/10, 2:30 PM

i seeing more and more people gemming haste. is there any cap to obtain ? is it really helpful ? i have reforged and got 18% mastery skill on ptr is it too much ?