Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 1293

Archaene · 10/12/10, 3:24 PM

With my copied toon from Live, I managed to pull about 7.6k DPS on the Ironforge Heroic Dummy with this thread's help (not too shabby).

Can't wait to test it out on live in a few hours. Keep up the great work!

Archaene · 10/12/10, 3:26 PM

Now that ArP has turned into Critical Strike Rating, are Combat rogues still on top of Mutilate rogues?

Valustria · 10/12/10, 3:39 PM

How do you distill anything useful from that mess of colors and numbers?

misada · 10/12/10, 4:15 PM

From my testing on the PTR, though admittedly not 100% scientific, I actually saw more use out of glyph of vendetta (remade out of hunger for blood so most of us should have it) then backstab.

As the majority of my test was on the dummy though I cant say for certain of course till I get into static raid comps on a boss to compare. I also saw more use in picking up deadened nerves for filler points, simply because the less damage you take the more likely you are to not die if a healer has to choose between you or a more important raid member.

Something else of note, on the ptr I found reforging as much hit as I could into mastery increased my overall damage output as long as I stayed above hit cap, in my current gear I had enough to reforge every piece of hit I could into mastery netting me a 30% bonus to poison damage give or take, a huge boost bringing my instant poison far ahead of my next highest damage source.

Last I logged in on the ptr I was using a spec of Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft with a rotation of 3+ rupture 4+ envenom, though once servers come up I may replace the rupture glyph with something else.

pedread · 10/12/10, 4:20 PM

Well, I bet you've been questioned about this million times but:

Are you releasing a new 4.0.1 spreadsheet soon?

alebensb · 10/12/10, 4:33 PM

Since our shields are going to be less reforging Mastery could help? Int gives spell power now. So another option is reforging int since .418 of spell power is added to our shields? I understand a lot has to do with gear, but do you see any advantage with BiS gear to reforge Int over mastery. Is mastery based on a tier system or just scaled?

Also I was wondering what you thought of archangel and using it in rotation.
Use PoM on cooldown ALWAYS.
PW:S then Smite till 5 stacks of Evangelism.
Archangel as soon as 5 stacks of Evangelism
Do PW:S until Archangel is over.
Then repeat PW:S and Smite till 5. By the time you get 5 stacks Archangel CD should be up.

If you need to heal a player fast use penance. Use PW:Barrier when you use to use Hymn.

Also is it better to put one point in Inner Sanctum instead of Reflective Shield? It seems a lot of bosses in ICC can do direct damage of some sort to the priest. Every damage can count.

My final question is about Holy Nova. The glyph brings the GCD to .5sec. Does this mean you can almost cast 2 Holy Nova per second? What are peoples thoughts on Holy Nova spamming?

Thank you.

iStatus · 10/12/10, 4:35 PM

This is great, thanks!

lunamoon · 10/12/10, 4:48 PM

Quick question, anyone know what mastery lvl we should be at for lvl 80, and second how much haste should we be looking at?

Reynus · 10/12/10, 4:50 PM

Is it going to be worth it to get more ticks of Renew through haste to boost Divine Touch? As in, stacking 1100+ haste for a third extra tick of Renew for the extra umph to your Divine Touch?

iampeebrain · 10/12/10, 4:51 PM

This was posted in the simple questions thread regarding glyphs.

Originally Posted by ash2ash

I'm only going to comment on fire, since I really haven't been tracking arcane that much:

Fireball is going to probably be a must-have glyph since it will always be our fall-back nuke. Molten armor will also be important since rating-based crit is going to take a nosedive, and any percentage based crit we can get will be a blessing.

The last slot is still a mystery between living bomb, pyroblast, and frostfire bolt. Currently, the mechanics for ffb seem incredibly buggy on the PTRs, so it's hard to say how much to value the glyph. As for pyroblast, my intuition tells me that since crit rates are going to initially be low for cataclysm, the value of the pyroblast glyph is going to initially be low. As crit rates increase and you are able to generate more hotstreaks, the value will increase. Whether or not there will be a breakpoint between the living bomb glyph and the pyroblast glyph, it's too early to say.

Major glyphs are more situational. Dragon's breath may or may not be a slight dps increase, but all indiciations point to DB being a situational spell instead of something that is going to be included in an aoe rotation. All the other major glyphs are situational/preferential since they don't appear to directly be tied to any fire spell dps.

Azsharan · 10/12/10, 5:09 PM

Hi,

what will be the FCFS exactly for the 4.0.1 ?

Does the gemming will change? enchanting?

Sorry for the questions but i wasn't enought valiant to search in all the pages whereas i'dont understand perfectly english.

PS : it's for EU-forum guide,

thanks you

Superfresh · 10/12/10, 5:14 PM

Originally Posted by alebensb

Since our shields are going to be less reforging Mastery could help? Int gives spell power now. So another option is reforging int since .418 of spell power is added to our shields? I understand a lot has to do with gear, but do you see any advantage with BiS gear to reforge Int over mastery. Is mastery based on a tier system or just scaled?

You may only reforge to and from secondary stats such as Haste, Mastery, Crit, Etc.
So reforging to Int wont be an option

Originally Posted by alebensb

What are peoples thoughts on Holy Nova spamming

It depends on whether you plan on having mana for longer than 15 seconds

Originally Posted by Reynus

Is it going to be worth it to get more ticks of Renew through haste to boost Divine Touch? As in, stacking 1100+ haste for a third extra tick of Renew for the extra umph to your Divine Touch?

It's still to be seen whether aiming for that third tick is going to be reasonable or not - in my opinion its best to shoot for the 2nd extra and then allocate stats to alternative means of throughput, as the haste needed for the third tick seems excessive

iddlez · 10/12/10, 5:19 PM

heya. just wondering if Revealing Strikes increases the effect of Rupture, or only Evis?

anaxes · 10/12/10, 5:24 PM

Originally Posted by Azsharan

Hi,

what will be the FCFS exactly for the 4.0.1 ?

Does the gemming will change? enchanting?

Sorry for the questions but i wasn't enought valiant to search in all the pages whereas i'dont understand perfectly english.

PS : it's for EU-forum guide,

thanks you

Majority of this is discussed on this very page, we can't hold hands for every person that comes through these boards.

alebensb · 10/12/10, 5:43 PM

So it will all depend on discipline play style regarding reforging?
If you want bigger shields you reforge mastery.
If you want faster smites and longer HoT you reforge haste.
If you want bigger heals you do crit.

Right now it seems there is little data on what is best for the next 7 weeks. But, if anyone has some data it would be greatly appreciated.

But, is my logic wrong about Holy Nova? Can you do almost 2 per second with the glyph? I just like the idea about using Holy Nova in raids.