Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 1300

daphnestar · 10/13/10, 1:53 PM

Oops found it.

shumoo · 10/13/10, 1:53 PM

Originally Posted by Kuku

It hasn't changed, as far as I know, but it's also irrelevant. You can have your infernal/doomguard out along with your usual pet. In other words, you'll have two pets for a short time.

Thanks Kuku! Switching my main to Warlock and this I did not know. I'll be knocking out those quests!

Akhtal · 10/13/10, 1:55 PM

You can train those spells now, just go see your local trainer (you'll get Mastery and a few other stuff you already had too)

qwerman · 10/13/10, 2:00 PM

Hello guys,

just wanted to ask/check if anyone else is getting this too(on live servers): when glyphing ffb and stacking it to 3 i get ffb dot ticks for like 200 or sth. like this, yes 200...
is this a bug or did i just forget/didn't read sth.? also i had a 34k ffb crit on MC trash(no binding drop 8( ), no CoE, no totems,etc , but normally it crits for 14-18k, so is ffb just a bit broken atm or am i missing sth. ?
thanks in advance!

Allubz · 10/13/10, 2:21 PM

Thanks for all the hard work. I've used a lot of this info to respec / resocket my combat rogue. What I'm wondering, though, is if it's worth to reforge ALL items with crit on them to haste (as long as it's not on the item already), since this has been suggested for the trinkets.

I'm currently looking at 6233AP, 27,90% Haste, 289Hit, 200Exp and 57.37% crit.

I suppose I should only reforge to haste when I hit the crit cap? Or is reforging crit to haste generally a good idea?

Excuse me if this has been answered before, but I believe I read all posts in this topic and related threads.

Yazalyn · 10/13/10, 2:25 PM

Hey all...

I'm hoping to get some direction from all of the veteran hunters out there...this respec has got me confuzzled. Before this patch, MM was my prefered raid spec and surv was for pvp, but now I have no idea what would give me the best for each (pve/pvp). My profs are maxed LW and skinning. Should i really changed those to max out my dps with jc and either bs/eng?
Now with Arp gone, and hey look...im gemmed full fractured cardinal rubies...grr. Do i regem for agil? Do diminishing returns still apply? GAH! I need some help...

Thanks

Nevilledrie · 10/13/10, 2:26 PM

I just leach of the warriors or feral druids

Frequent · 10/13/10, 2:29 PM

Originally Posted by Allubz

Thanks for all the hard work. I've used a lot of this info to respec / resocket my combat rogue. What I'm wondering, though, is if it's worth to reforge ALL items with crit on them to haste (as long as it's not on the item already), since this has been suggested for the trinkets.

I'm currently looking at 6233AP, 27,90% Haste, 289Hit, 200Exp and 57.37% crit.

I suppose I should only reforge to haste when I hit the crit cap? Or is reforging crit to haste generally a good idea?

Excuse me if this has been answered before, but I believe I read all posts in this topic and related threads.

why wouldn't you take your worst stat, and convert it into your best?

John Galt · 10/13/10, 2:29 PM

Originally Posted by Allubz

Thanks for all the hard work. I've used a lot of this info to respec / resocket my combat rogue. What I'm wondering, though, is if it's worth to reforge ALL items with crit on them to haste (as long as it's not on the item already), since this has been suggested for the trinkets.

I'm currently looking at 6233AP, 27,90% Haste, 289Hit, 200Exp and 57.37% crit.

I suppose I should only reforge to haste when I hit the crit cap? Or is reforging crit to haste generally a good idea?

Excuse me if this has been answered before, but I believe I read all posts in this topic and related threads.

Considering the EP Values of stats in the first post, it seems as though you should always reforge to hit(till spell hit cap)/haste whenever possible.

Besides Agi and spell hit, Haste is the stat with the highest EP value for combat rogues, and since it's currently impossible to cap haste, it seems as though it'd be best to pump it as much as you can. You may of course decide to cap expertise and work on hit also, but generally it would appear that the order of stat pumping should be agi, hit, haste with crit near the absolute bottom of the order

Stat Combat
Agi 2.88
Crit 1.62
Spell Hit 2.38
White Hit 1.69
Expertise 2.20
Haste 2.25
Mastery 0.60

sedrikk · 10/13/10, 2:29 PM

Originally Posted by Allubz

Thanks for all the hard work. I've used a lot of this info to respec / resocket my combat rogue. What I'm wondering, though, is if it's worth to reforge ALL items with crit on them to haste (as long as it's not on the item already), since this has been suggested for the trinkets.

I'm currently looking at 6233AP, 27,90% Haste, 289Hit, 200Exp and 57.37% crit.

I suppose I should only reforge to haste when I hit the crit cap? Or is reforging crit to haste generally a good idea?

Excuse me if this has been answered before, but I believe I read all posts in this topic and related threads.

The first post of the thread has all of the information you need. The value of Crit is significantly lower than that of haste. You should be reforging crit into haste wherever possible. For gear that already has crit and haste, you should be reforging the crit into hit.

Frequent · 10/13/10, 2:31 PM

you should always reforge your worst stat into the best available stat. for example, if you have crit and haste on a piece of gear, reforge the crit to hit (since hit has a higher EP value, and you can't reforge to haste which is already a stat that is on that item).

intuitively, it isn't that difficult of a concept to grasp. make bad things good things.

mancandy · 10/13/10, 2:39 PM

I am aware of the talent I was just not sure that would be enough to sustain a longer burn then again with some people sustaining 20+k dps who knows how long any burn period will be.

zexa · 10/13/10, 2:41 PM

What would be crit cap?and i heard that Black magic might be the new enchant for weps?

BeeLz · 10/13/10, 3:04 PM

I've got around 200 itempoints te spend on reforging ( excessive hit and spirit ), is it worth reforging them into mastery, or isn't mastery worth a lot at low values? I'm at +/-900 haste rating right now and 1200 crit rating.
And if so, is it beneficial to weave in glyphed frostfirebolts at 200 mastery rating to keep the dot up?

semismurf · 10/13/10, 3:08 PM

Ok i've been scouring the net for the past few days trying to figure out what our trinkets are going to be for the rest of wrath. I have heroic death's choice, heroic tiny abom and heroic WFS. After doing some dummy testing i cant get my manfest anger to go above 3 or 4% of my damage. I guess that is still a fair increase, but i'm not getting that insane seal damage i used to get. Its just i feel so gimped without crit for the art of war procs. Art of war just seems way more important than it used to, even more with the exo glyph. My unbuffed crit went from 50% down to 31% in pretty much all 277 gear and shadowmourne. So i ask you as a normal scourer/lurker on EJ. please share anything you have experienced with trinkets.