Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 1305

Liniris · 10/13/10, 8:49 PM

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kavselj · 10/13/10, 9:04 PM

Disregard this message. Was looking under the wrong tab in Character stats bit.

Sugam · 10/13/10, 9:16 PM

Originally Posted by Belegûr

Does this also apply to cloak enchants?

yes

Jtc · 10/13/10, 9:30 PM

Do you Reforge crit or haste into masteries?

Nokkad · 10/13/10, 9:41 PM

Rgr that, understood

Palenque · 10/13/10, 9:42 PM

Great great post!
I'm having trouble with the diffrent informations about lvl 80 and 85 though.

Which MetaGem should we use when lvl80?
Is the chaotic worth gemming with blue gems?

Theone · 10/13/10, 9:59 PM

Originally Posted by Aldriana

It's worth noting that hit increases your poison damage as well. So yeah, each 46 points of mastery increases your poison damage by 2%; however, each 31 points of hit increases your poison damage by about 1%, and all your white damage by a similar amount; assuming white damage accounts for (say) 20% of your damage and poisons for 50, the comparison is then:

46 points of mastery = 2% * 50% = 1% damage increase.
46 points of hit = 1.5% * 70% = 1.05% damage increase.

So: very very close. Hit perhaps slightly better. Also known as: roughly whats in the first post of this thread.

You are my Hero!

Just wanted to hear this because I noticed how I could switch all my reforged crit into mastery or go with hit and be 20 hit away from White Cap. ( For the gear that already has haste and wont allow me to reforge Haste that is. )

Avitus · 10/13/10, 10:08 PM

Originally Posted by Palenque

Which MetaGem should we use when lvl80?
Is the chaotic worth gemming with blue gems?

Both Relentless and Chaotic are still the same as they were before in value.

The only change is that since +hit gems are blue now (and +hit combo gems are purple), if you use any of those in your gear you can safely "upgrade" to a Chaotic meta and gain a little bit of extra melee crit and some extra spell crit.

Deicide77 · 10/13/10, 10:08 PM

With the 4.0 patch going live today, I would like to know what numbers to aim for regarding stats on my holy paladin.
Does anyone have any reference lvl 80 numbers for intel, spirit, haste, crit, mastery?

Naishadriel · 10/13/10, 10:26 PM

4.0 taking its toll on screwing with my gear, does anyone have any idea how much crit and haste can be sacrificed for mastery before it starts to hurt dps overall? I am looking to make max numbers for raid, and does hittting that hard cap for hit now important or does the fact we hit from behind almost 100% of the time still make a difference in damage overall when under hit cap

reddrumjay · 10/13/10, 10:38 PM

Originally Posted by Exemplar

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Fantastic info! Thank you for the time you devoted to putting this all together!

Arrakus · 10/13/10, 11:01 PM

I did everything that was posted above except for the Gemming. I gemmed for Exp and Hit cap and reforge all of my gear for the highest possible Mastery. Got to a rating of 21.05 (599). Ran EnhSim Alpha, see the first set of results below.

I then regemmed everything for AGI. Reforged for EXP/Hit Cap first then reforge for Mastery. Got to a rating of 16.09(409). Ran EnhSim Alpha, see the second set of results below.

Note** I am having trouble exporting my character with ShockandAwe to be imported into EnhSim Alpha, so I had to do it manually. Not sure if I imported the information correctly (I think I did). I only reforge Crit and Haste. Which ever stat had the highest rating was the stat that I reforge. I ran the sim with out any trinkets, special weapons, weapon enchants or tier pieces.

Not sure if this testing means anything, but here you go regardless.

Summary -
Full AGI Gemming: 11415.78 DPS
Gem EXP/HIT: 11070.23 DPS

AGI Gemming simmed out to be ~455 DPS Higher.

-Arrakus

EXP/HIT Gemmed, All gear reforge for Mastery

### Saved by v2.0.9 of EnhSimGUI

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simulation_time                 5000
simulation_time_combatlog       300
combat_length                   7
report_count                    80
threads                         1
combat_length_rng_factor        0.35
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cast_sr_on_cooldown             1

ep_precision                    2
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ep_crit_rating                  100
ep_hit_rating                   100
ep_expertise_rating             100
ep_haste_rating                 100
ep_mastery_rating               100
ep_spellpower                   115
ep_dps                          15
ep_mana                         600
ep_spirit                       100
ep_mp5                          100
ep_intellect                    100

mh_auto_attack                  1
oh_auto_attack                  1
use_bloodlust                   1
always_bloodlust_wolves         0
cast_lvb_only_if_fs_active      1
cast_fs_only_if_dots_left       0
cast_magma_only_if_ticks_left   2
cast_sr_only_if_mana_left       0
use_mana_potion_if_mana_left    1000
necrotic_touch                  0
necrotic_touch_heroic           1

rotation_priority_count         10
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rotation_priority2              SS
rotation_priority3              LL
rotation_priority4              FS_UEF
rotation_priority5              UE
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rotation_priority7              ES
rotation_priority8              FE
rotation_priority9              ST
rotation_priority10             SR

aoe_rotation_priority_count     0

fight_name                      standard_single_target
miss                            8.00
dodge                           6.50
glancing                        24.00
armor                           8098
spell_miss                      17.00
nature_resistance               0
fire_resistance                 0
frost_resistance                0
arcane_resistance               0
shadow_resistance               0

additional_targets              0
additional_target_percent       0.00
additional_target_level         85

armor_debuff                    12.0/12.0
physical_vulnerability_debuff   4.0/4.0
melee_haste_buff                10.0/10.0
crit_chance_buff                5.0/5.0
attack_power_buff_multiplier    10.0/10.0
spell_haste_buff                5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_debuff        5.0/5.0
spell_damage_debuff             8.0/8.0
spellpower_buff                 10.0/10.0
percentage_damage_increase      3.0/3.0
stat_multiplier                 5.0/5.0
agi_and_strength_buff           549/549
mana_buff                       5401/5401
mana_regen_buff                 326/326

replenishment                   1
water_shield                    0
mixology                        0

flask_elixir                    -
guardian_elixir                 -
potion                          -
food                            -

###############################################################################
### Everything in the section below can be replaced by information obtained ###
### from your paper doll stats or exported by the ShockAndAwe addon         ###
###############################################################################

race                            orc
mh_speed                        2.6
oh_speed                        2.6
mh_dps                          226.7
oh_dps                          226.7
mh_crit                         48.54
oh_crit                         48.54
mh_hit                          20.53
oh_hit                          20.53
mh_expertise_rating             114
oh_expertise_rating             114
ap                              4916
melee_haste                     17.26
str                             133
agi                             1931
int                             135
spi                             155
mastery_rating                  599
spellpower                      2583
spell_crit                      25.42
spell_hit                       17.04
spell_haste                     17.26
max_mana                        6141
mp5                             249

mh_imbue                        windfury
oh_imbue                        flametongue

mh_enchant                      -
oh_enchant                      -

mh_weapon                       mace
oh_weapon                       mace

trinket1                        -
trinket2                        -

set_bonus1                      -
set_bonus2                      -
set_bonus3                      -

metagem                         -

gloves_enchant                  -
cloak_enchant                   -
ring_proc                       -

glyph_prime1                    stormstrike
glyph_prime2                    feral_spirit
glyph_prime3                    lava_lash

glyph_major1                    -
glyph_major2                    -
glyph_major3                    -

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elemental_weapons               2/2
focused_strikes                 3/3
improved_shields                0/3
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improved_fire_nova              2/2
searing_flames                  3/3
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shamanistic_rage                1/1
unleashed_rage                  2/2
improved_lava_lash              2/2
maelstrom_weapon                3/3

convection                      0/2
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call_of_flame                   2/2
reverberation                   0/2
elemental_precision             0/3
elemental_focus                 0/1
elemental_oath                  0/2
lava_flows                      0/3
storm_earth_and_fire            0/3
elemental_mastery               0/1
feedback                        0/3
lava_surge                      0/2 /

EnhSim version 2.0.9

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MH:
miss                58021          0.47%
dodge               441827         3.55%
glancing            2983428        24.00%
hit                 1562452        12.57%
crit                7384684        59.41%
average ap          7582.14
clip                0              0.00%

MH Windfury:
procs/hits          14.76%
procs/swings        14.17%
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               145470         3.54%
hit                 1488450        36.25%
crit                2471646        60.20%
average ap          7581.38

MH Storsmtrike:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               72844          3.55%
hit                 746435         36.36%
crit                1233879        60.10%
average ap          7580.32

MH Unleashed Weapon Windfury:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               38600          3.57%
hit                 391806         36.19%
crit                652313         60.25%
average ap          7578.68

OH:
miss                58255          0.47%
dodge               441288         3.55%
glancing            2980900        23.98%
hit                 1561897        12.57%
crit                7388072        59.44%
average ap          7582.15
clip                0              0.00%

OH Flametongue:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 9530041        64.58%
crit                5227394        35.42%
average sp          5492.44

OH Stormstrike:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               70518          3.56%
hit                 717190         36.22%
crit                1192606        60.22%
average ap          7580.32

OH Unleashed Weapon Flametongue:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 698722         64.53%
crit                383997         35.47%
average sp          5489.57

Earth Shock:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 378042         31.55%
crit                820192         68.45%
average sp          5485.32

Flame Shock:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 625715         64.55%
crit                343574         35.45%
average sp          5490.13
dots hit            3680941        64.57%
dots crit           2019718        35.43%
average dot sp      5490.47

Lava Lash:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               56925          3.57%
hit                 579383         36.30%
crit                960004         60.14%
average ap          7578.46

Lightning Bolt:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 674381         31.56%
crit                1462177        68.44%
average sp          5491.99

Lightning Shield:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 771850         31.61%
crit                1670107        68.39%
average sp          5490.66

Spirit Wolves:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               0              0.00%
glancing            1748308        24.01%
hit                 4592320        63.06%
crit                942102         12.94%
average ap          7677.74

Searing Totem:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 4588288        64.59%
crit                2515675        35.41%
average sp          5480.77

Searing Flames:
hit                 2000435        64.57%
crit                1097521        35.43%
average sp          5479.16

Fire Elemental Melee:
miss                138996         8.01%
dodge               77839          4.49%
glancing            416979         24.04%
hit                 1100785        63.46%
crit                0              0.00%

Fire Elemental Fire Shield:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 1621540        95.03%
crit                84825          4.97%

Fire Elemental Fire Nova:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 468115         95.00%
crit                24654          5.00%

Fire Elemental Fire Blast:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 406907         95.00%
crit                21433          5.00%

Fire Elemental stats:
average ap          7902.13
average sp          5831.08
MPS                 42.84
MPCooldown          5141.36
Out of mana time    35.00%
MRPCooldown         647.69
MRPS                5.51

Fire Elemental      MRPS without overregen
mana regen          5.40      100.00%


Maelstrom Weapon:
PPM                 48.03
efficiency          74.14%

flurry uptime                  95.67%
elemental devastation uptime   95.74%
UW Windfury uptime             17.24%
UW Flametongue uptime          20.20%

stormstrike debuff uptime      99.60%
flame shock uptime             75.62%
lightning shield uptime        100.00%
searing totem uptime           65.28%
searing flame uptime           63.74%
fire elemental uptime          28.56%

racial uptime                  14.10%
necrotic touch uptime          45.99%

                    MRPS without overregen
mana regen          24.04     2.55%
mp5                 85.09     9.01%
replenishment       21.20     2.24%
unrelenting storm   0.00      0.00%
primal wisdom       619.29    65.59%
shamanistic rage    194.56    20.61%
mana potion         0.00      0.00%
misc                0.00      0.00%

                    DPS                 PPM       MPS
white               2336.97   21.11%    82.87
windfury            1075.13   9.71%     6.84
flametongue         968.95    8.75%     49.19
searing flames      247.04    2.23%     10.33
stormstrike         525.26    4.74%     6.84      155.69    23.68%
lava lash           1155.15   10.43%    5.32      62.71     9.54%
searing totem       781.56    7.06%     0.75      20.18     3.07%
earth shock         401.17    3.62%     3.99      213.09    32.41%
flame shock         425.77    3.85%     3.23      168.83    25.68%
lightning bolt      1101.59   9.95%     7.12      0.00      0.00%
lightning shield    469.93    4.25%     0.14      0.00      0.00%
necrotic touch      203.89    1.84%     52.33
spirit wolves       364.99    3.3%      0.57      26.45     4.02%
fire elemental      574.75    5.19%     0.14      10.58     1.61%
  melee             391.08    68.04%    5.78
  fire shield       18.74     3.26%     5.69
  fire nova         115.14    20.03%    1.64
  fire blast        49.78     8.66%     1.43
unleashed elements  438.09    3.96%     3.61      98.65     15.00%
  MH Windfury       100.40    22.92%    3.61
  OH Flametongue    337.69    77.08%    3.61

DPS                 11070.23
MPS                 657.54
MP2min              78904.99
MRPS                1390.65
Out of mana time    1.65%

elapsed simulation time: 5000.00h
elapsed real time: 15.14s
simulation speed: 1188668x

____________________________________________________________________________
All AGI Gemming, Gear reforged first for EXP/Hit and then reforge for Mastery

### Saved by v2.0.9 of EnhSimGUI

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ep_precision                    2
ep_base_stat                    ap
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ep_crit_rating                  100
ep_hit_rating                   100
ep_expertise_rating             100
ep_haste_rating                 100
ep_mastery_rating               100
ep_spellpower                   115
ep_dps                          15
ep_mana                         600
ep_spirit                       100
ep_mp5                          100
ep_intellect                    100

mh_auto_attack                  1
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necrotic_touch                  0
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rotation_priority9              ST
rotation_priority10             SR

aoe_rotation_priority_count     0

fight_name                      standard_single_target
miss                            8.00
dodge                           6.50
glancing                        24.00
armor                           8098
spell_miss                      17.00
nature_resistance               0
fire_resistance                 0
frost_resistance                0
arcane_resistance               0
shadow_resistance               0

additional_targets              0
additional_target_percent       0.00
additional_target_level         85

armor_debuff                    12.0/12.0
physical_vulnerability_debuff   4.0/4.0
melee_haste_buff                10.0/10.0
crit_chance_buff                5.0/5.0
attack_power_buff_multiplier    10.0/10.0
spell_haste_buff                5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_debuff        5.0/5.0
spell_damage_debuff             8.0/8.0
spellpower_buff                 10.0/10.0
percentage_damage_increase      3.0/3.0
stat_multiplier                 5.0/5.0
agi_and_strength_buff           549/549
mana_buff                       5401/5401
mana_regen_buff                 326/326

replenishment                   1
water_shield                    0
mixology                        0

flask_elixir                    -
guardian_elixir                 -
potion                          -
food                            -

###############################################################################
### Everything in the section below can be replaced by information obtained ###
### from your paper doll stats or exported by the ShockAndAwe addon         ###
###############################################################################

race                            orc
mh_speed                        2.6
oh_speed                        2.6
mh_dps                          226.7
oh_dps                          226.7
mh_crit                         50.64
oh_crit                         50.64
mh_hit                          20.53
oh_hit                          20.53
mh_expertise_rating             116
oh_expertise_rating             116
ap                              5276
melee_haste                     17.26
str                             133
agi                             2105
int                             135
spi                             155
mastery_rating                  409
spellpower                      2763
spell_crit                      25.42
spell_hit                       17.04
spell_haste                     17.26
max_mana                        6141
mp5                             249

mh_imbue                        windfury
oh_imbue                        flametongue

mh_enchant                      -
oh_enchant                      -

mh_weapon                       mace
oh_weapon                       mace

trinket1                        -
trinket2                        -

set_bonus1                      -
set_bonus2                      -
set_bonus3                      -

metagem                         -

gloves_enchant                  -
cloak_enchant                   -
ring_proc                       -

glyph_prime1                    stormstrike
glyph_prime2                    feral_spirit
glyph_prime3                    lava_lash

glyph_major1                    -
glyph_major2                    -
glyph_major3                    -

armor_type_bonus                0

primary_talent                  enhancement
elemental_weapons               2/2
focused_strikes                 3/3
improved_shields                0/3
elemental_devastation           3/3
flurry                          3/3
static_shock                    3/3
improved_fire_nova              2/2
searing_flames                  3/3
frozen_power                    0/2
shamanistic_rage                1/1
unleashed_rage                  2/2
improved_lava_lash              2/2
maelstrom_weapon                3/3

convection                      0/2
concussion                      3/3
call_of_flame                   2/2
reverberation                   0/2
elemental_precision             0/3
elemental_focus                 0/1
elemental_oath                  0/2
lava_flows                      0/3
storm_earth_and_fire            0/3
elemental_mastery               0/1
feedback                        0/3
lava_surge                      0/2

EnhSim version 2.0.9

................................................................................


MH:
miss                58497          0.47%
dodge               440606         3.54%
glancing            2985513        23.98%
hit                 1302016        10.46%
crit                7663731        61.55%
average ap          7998.19
clip                0              0.00%

MH Windfury:
procs/hits          14.74%
procs/swings        14.16%
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               145829         3.55%
hit                 1404518        34.19%
crit                2558029        62.26%
average ap          7997.60

MH Storsmtrike:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               73071          3.56%
hit                 703679         34.27%
crit                1276568        62.17%
average ap          7996.35

MH Unleashed Weapon Windfury:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               38214          3.53%
hit                 370159         34.19%
crit                674418         62.29%
average ap          7994.79

OH:
miss                58851          0.47%
dodge               441119         3.54%
glancing            2985685        23.98%
hit                 1300943        10.45%
crit                7663765        61.55%
average ap          7998.20
clip                0              0.00%

OH Flametongue:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 9541353        64.55%
crit                5239097        35.45%
average sp          5721.46

OH Stormstrike:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               70171          3.54%
hit                 676009         34.14%
crit                1234067        62.32%
average ap          7996.33

OH Unleashed Weapon Flametongue:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 699420         64.59%
crit                383371         35.41%
average sp          5718.70

Earth Shock:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 378474         31.60%
crit                819154         68.40%
average sp          5714.41

Flame Shock:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 625788         64.54%
crit                343750         35.46%
average sp          5719.10
dots hit            3682016        64.58%
dots crit           2019140        35.42%
average dot sp      5719.44

Lava Lash:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               56412          3.53%
hit                 547904         34.32%
crit                992259         62.15%
average ap          7994.40

Lightning Bolt:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 675446         31.58%
crit                1463651        68.42%
average sp          5721.03

Lightning Shield:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 772432         31.61%
crit                1671235        68.39%
average sp          5719.81

Spirit Wolves:
miss                0              0.00%
dodge               0              0.00%
glancing            1747332        23.98%
hit                 4595700        63.08%
crit                942902         12.94%
average ap          8093.85

Searing Totem:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 4587746        64.59%
crit                2514653        35.41%
average sp          5709.74

Searing Flames:
hit                 2005019        64.60%
crit                1098790        35.40%
average sp          5708.19

Fire Elemental Melee:
miss                139153         8.01%
dodge               77878          4.49%
glancing            415466         23.93%
hit                 1103793        63.57%
crit                0              0.00%

Fire Elemental Fire Shield:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 1622717        95.01%
crit                85256          4.99%

Fire Elemental Fire Nova:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 468631         95.02%
crit                24543          4.98%

Fire Elemental Fire Blast:
miss                0              0.00%
hit                 407350         95.01%
crit                21396          4.99%

Fire Elemental stats:
average ap          8318.33
average sp          6060.30
MPS                 42.84
MPCooldown          5141.01
Out of mana time    35.00%
MRPCooldown         647.67
MRPS                5.51

Fire Elemental      MRPS without overregen
mana regen          5.40      100.00%


Maelstrom Weapon:
PPM                 48.10
efficiency          74.12%

flurry uptime                  96.37%
elemental devastation uptime   95.75%
UW Windfury uptime             17.20%
UW Flametongue uptime          20.18%

stormstrike debuff uptime      99.60%
flame shock uptime             75.63%
lightning shield uptime        100.00%
searing totem uptime           65.27%
searing flame uptime           63.64%
fire elemental uptime          28.58%

racial uptime                  14.10%
necrotic touch uptime          46.08%

                    MRPS without overregen
mana regen          23.96     2.54%
mp5                 85.00     9.00%
replenishment       21.17     2.24%
unrelenting storm   0.00      0.00%
primal wisdom       619.44    65.60%
shamanistic rage    194.63    20.61%
mana potion         0.00      0.00%
misc                0.00      0.00%

                    DPS                 PPM       MPS
white               2466.54   21.61%    83.00
windfury            1119.85   9.81%     6.85
flametongue         980.39    8.59%     49.27
searing flames      251.46    2.2%      10.35
stormstrike         552.84    4.84%     6.84      155.66    23.68%
lava lash           1190.27   10.43%    5.32      62.73     9.54%
searing totem       794.19    6.96%     0.75      20.18     3.07%
earth shock         404.00    3.54%     3.99      212.89    32.38%
flame shock         430.67    3.77%     3.23      168.84    25.68%
lightning bolt      1117.73   9.79%     7.13      0.00      0.00%
lightning shield    475.72    4.17%     0.14      0.00      0.00%
necrotic touch      214.42    1.88%     52.50
spirit wolves       375.45    3.29%     0.57      26.47     4.03%
fire elemental      596.40    5.22%     0.14      10.67     1.62%
  melee             407.68    68.36%    5.79
  fire shield       19.11     3.2%      5.69
  fire nova         118.60    19.89%    1.64
  fire blast        51.01     8.55%     1.43
unleashed elements  445.82    3.91%     3.61      98.66     15.01%
  MH Windfury       105.67    23.7%     3.61
  OH Flametongue    340.15    76.3%     3.61

DPS                 11415.78
MPS                 657.43
MP2min              78891.69
MRPS                1391.94
Out of mana time    1.61%

elapsed simulation time: 5000.00h
elapsed real time: 15.11s
simulation speed: 1191500x

Canarith · 10/13/10, 11:28 PM

Originally Posted by R00k!3

Sadly I cannot give extreme good values since I stopped raiding 25 man, however I raided icc 10h tonight with random and 2 friends of mine which were there with their twinks too. So while I had the impression my overall DPS increased slightly in short 10 man fights (exg. ~15.5k dps @ Saurfang, I think it was about 14 before) I also experienced that for example my guildie did nearly as much damage as me with his twink shadow priest which is mostly in 264 gear and which I outdpsed by far in the past.
Furthermore you could look up worldoflogs. Deus Vox and others already cleared Icc and compare the logs from 4.0.1 to the ones before.
worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-qsocp0in8xpkr5n1/

Regarding the shadow priests, see the following from MMO blue tracker:

Originally Posted by Ghostcrawler (Source)
Rather than try and address multiple threads, I'm just going to plop our current thoughts in this one post. Please excuse the brevity.

1) We think Fury, Arms, Feral cat and Retribution dps is too low and we will be buffing them.

2) We think mage dps is too high, especially Fire, and will be nerfing it.

3) We think Shadow priest dps is too high, but that's largely a result of Shadow Word: Death spam, which is tough on healers. We'll be fixing that.

4) We think Destro warlock dps is too high, but that's largely a result of Searing Pain spam, which is tough on tanks. We'll be fixing that.

5) As we suspected, PvP dps is just too high given that the health pools of Cataclysm haven't kicked in yet. While competitive PvP is over for the moment, we still want the environment to feel better so we will be buffing resilience. This change might be reverted at level 85.

There will probably be more changes after another night of raiding and BGs. Many of the bug fixes we have made today will affect dps as well. Stay tuned.

Lovero · 10/13/10, 11:31 PM

So if we keep our desieses up how will we do so? What would be more benificial poping out IT and PS or just FS, it saves a global, and also Glyph of Disease? what would be better for us to use for refreshing our diseases

Aylii · 10/13/10, 11:57 PM

Originally Posted by Kildrazien

Get Target HP, if < 35%, cast Backstab, else
cast Mutilate.

Currently in the game, you cannot make a macro with conditionals based on hitpoints. The only conditionals that you can use, without invoking a runscript, are the usual, such as [@mouseover, harm].

You could instead just watch the target's hitpoints, then start queuing backstab once it reaches 35%.