Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 1316

CALMSTORM · 10/15/10, 5:55 AM

Hello mates,

I am not sure if this is the correct place to mention it; but is it crystal clear that MM is still better than both SV and BM ? With the removal of Arp. MM lost a cutting edge and I would assume SV to push a bit forward but still I see MM forums / topics remain the best active and not new comments on BM / SV topics. I fail to see any mention for possible alternatives to MM if there is one at all.

Can it be confirmed that MM is still the way to go for raiding ?
Thanks in advance

ValentinS · 10/15/10, 6:06 AM

First of all i apologise if i shouldnt post here .I read all posts about fury warriors, im a new player(6 months) and new member on this forum.

My concerns are the following and maybe someone could clarify if they are really problems for us warriors:

The raiding spot.
1.We lack raiding buffs compared to most of other classes imo.And considering the new raid lockouts in cataclysm probably a lot of guilds , including my own will cut down 25 raids and focuse on 10.This combined with the fact that in WOTLK warriors were not only very gear dependent (and pretty much underperform compared to toher classes till high end gear) but also very buff dependent (personal experience, in 25 mans i always classed in top 6-7 as dps, when raiding 10 always came out last) . my gear is mostly 264 level, shadow edge and ramaldini as weps.

2.Mobility.As melee dps classes we underperform in heavy mobility fights from obvious reasons.Especially in 10 mans, when you cannot actually stick to main target(lady deathwhisper,putri etc) and let the range handle the rest

3.Dps balance.I dont want to be OP.really dont.I just want all dps classes to be balanced (maybe except that 5% hybrid penalty which i dont actually mind).Imo after the last night buff we still underperform regarding casters and etc.

I just to play my warrior, be able to obtain a hardcore raiding spot through skill and so on.Will i have this chance in cataclysm?
And also does anybody know when should Blizz come to finalising class balance?(cata release, sooner, later?hope not.)

Thanks to everyone that may help me understand if my worries are truly valid or not

Respect to all veteran warriors and hoping to be one someday
Shagrat

Maffu · 10/15/10, 6:58 AM

Considering there is no Armor Penetration anymore, I'm curious as to what older items would step up in the list.

Take these for example;

[Band of the Night Raven]
[Nerub'ar Stalker's Cord]
[Blood-Drinker's Girdle]

Same agility, same amount of sockets, same socket bonuses.

Without Armor Penetration, what type of order might these go in, in terms of dps, before and after reforging?

Jhaze · 10/15/10, 7:09 AM

Originally Posted by Flopi

Hi,

I'm having trouble to evaluate trinkets as always. Atm I have heroic DBW and Darkmoon card Greatness (90str and 300str proc) since my trinket luck isn't the best. Is the Herkumi War token (153 haste and 340AP fully stacked ) better than the Darkmoon card?

The procs are similar,but 153 haste pulls over 90 strenght by far.

deathsplague · 10/15/10, 7:09 AM

Originally Posted by Flopi

Hi,

I'm having trouble to evaluate trinkets as always. Atm I have heroic DBW and Darkmoon card Greatness (90str and 300str proc) since my trinket luck isn't the best. Is the Herkumi War token (153 haste and 340AP fully stacked ) better than the Darkmoon card?

HWT by far

Deathwing · 10/15/10, 7:10 AM

They reduced the base damage, but not the scaling. Wouldn't that make swipe useful in single target threat at some point of AP?

stene · 10/15/10, 7:20 AM

what leg enchant should I use now?

Rogerbrown · 10/15/10, 7:44 AM

plz delete all previous posts or make a new thread if u will do that. basically 90% of posts are useless atm

Hyos · 10/15/10, 7:48 AM

EDIT: Deleted old post, I thought you meant current character build, not beta build.

I believe ES9 is worth more than LB and should take priority. ZAP will not work at all as it calculates with a fixed rotation, and now you have an unpredictable amount of LvBs, and those crit automatically, so crit is worth less than ZAP suggests.

Valilock · 10/15/10, 8:03 AM

Originally Posted by danvonnewman

Hello,

I am a newby when it comes to dps calculating/theory crafting but has it been considered to open with a soulburn improved seed of corruption to get the corruption on the target?

Why would you do that? Corruption is instant cast, SoC has a cast time. I'd use it on something like Saurfang to get Corruption on all the adds maybe. Affliction doesn't benfefit a great deal from Soulburn unfortunately, at least not in DPS terms. I would imagine another SOulburn effect will make it onto the list before Cataclysm is launched.

I've been seeing the Phylactery on most of the BiS lists since the patch and I don't really understand why. Is it to do with hitting the haste cap when in BiS? I only ask because I have that, the Charred Twilight Scale and DFO to choose from.

Sharkey2099 · 10/15/10, 8:15 AM

It just feels logical that more finishers = more damage + quicker killing spree and adrenaline rush cooldowns.. To the tune of squeezing an extra one of each in any given fight. I'm obviously gonna test it out but lacking a stats set I can not really test one half of the theory. Being on the road has made my transition into correct 4.0.1 setup rough but once I complete the last few enchants and have the time I'll dedicate a fair bit of time to it.

johnydrama · 10/15/10, 8:45 AM

So what are current best poisons? Still Instant in MH and deadly in OH?

Bashina · 10/15/10, 8:48 AM

Originally Posted by stene

what leg enchant should I use now?

Well your current choices are [Brilliant Spellthread] or [Sapphire Spellthread] (or their Tailor only counterparts) and since spirit is now useless for mages there is only really one option.

Agathias · 10/15/10, 8:57 AM

Although Im a veteran player. The mage class has been new to me coming from a pally n rogue player. Doing my own research and experimenting...I started stacking spirit with haste on my gems. So far it seems to be working on keeping my mana pool above 75% during a boss fight. Putin me on the average of 5.5 to 5.7k dps on singal target with about a 5.4 gear score. Not really sure if that is great or about average. But watching my dps drop dramatically when doing aoe dps using AE on trash mobs. My toons name is <Darksaken> on Dalvengyr <Horde> guild <Anonymous> Im open to any suggestions on improvements.

dafirus · 10/15/10, 9:15 AM

About white damage, i need to get to 646 to have a good dps or is it more important to reforge/gem in Haste?