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Old 10/16/10, 1:53 PM   #19846
Jalamar
Glass Joe
 
Human Warlock
 
Sylvanas (EU)
Originally Posted by Iraas View Post
Did we get an answer to this? It seems to me that crit would make more sense for destro spec than haste, but I will bow to your superior number crunching and reforge accordingly if you say so.
I think you still need haste, due searing pain beening useless pve wise now. Thought thats just my opinion, ain't backed up by nothing more.

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Old 10/16/10, 2:03 PM   #19847
theunlimited
Glass Joe
 
Hwoop
Night Elf Rogue
 
No WoW Account (EU)
Quick question:
Now that PVP weapons are available without arena ratings.
For Retribution, are the 277 PVP weapons (e.g. [Wrathful Gladiator's Claymore])still better than Shadow's Edge currently?

Edit: Nevermind, I'm stupid. Only the 264 ilvl ones are available for buying currently.

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Old 10/16/10, 2:05 PM   #19848
Nyth_
Piston Honda
 
Troll Hunter
 
Moonglade (EU)
Originally Posted by zafro View Post
What are your guys/gals thoughts on this ? It seems logical

World of Warcraft - English (NA) Forums -> Let us use steady shot while moving now.


I don't want to get too ahead of myself though.
I can agree with the SS thing on the move. I however do not totally agree with the other points.

He's basically asking us to turn us into CP-less rogues; because that's all it'll be when that happens. That in itself has merits of course because you become even more liberal in your actions. But it takes away flavor too. I think with the current focus being basically an energy/rage hybrid is a unique system.

I do think the current mechanics do not work in PvP. I've had some BG and duels after the patch and across the line hunters fail. Too low burst, too low shot for shot damage (my highest crit was a 3000 chimera), and nearly always at sub-20 focus.

Whether the solution for that is to turn us into rogues with an orange instead of yellow bar, I'm not so sure about. But making SS castable on the move baseline, or moving AotF WAY down so you can get it at say level 20; would be my first choice.

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Old 10/16/10, 2:08 PM   #19849
Castorcato
 
Undead Mage
 
Steamwheedle Cartel (EU)
www.youtube.com/user/vgsensation

Hi,

I'm the guy behind the Fire AoE madness video on the front page here, just letting you all know that if anyone needs something tested on beta, I'll do my best to help in that respect.

Thanks, carry on.

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Old 10/16/10, 3:12 PM   #19850
Valgus92
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Blood Elf Paladin
 
Blackrock
Heroic Cryptmaker vs. Heroic Bryntroll

So after the release of 4.0.1 I decided to acquire H Cryptmaker and reforge the hit on a lot of my gear to haste considering I would be over cap with this weapon. Haste was put ahead in the priority list by this post over Crit and Mastery so I decided to try it out. Was wondering if H Cryptmaker with all the haste is in fact better than H Bryntroll?

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Old 10/16/10, 3:21 PM   #19851
buddyro18
Glass Joe
 
Dwarf Warrior
 
Darkspear
Imp for affliction, really?

my earlier post about asking for help with imp, felhunter, succubus was in RESPONSE to a post saying the imp is 'far superior' to any of the other pets for affliction, and i wanted clarification. Y'all are the experts on this, i'm just a scrub looking for a bite.

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Old 10/16/10, 3:33 PM   #19852
Xylo123
 
Human Warrior
 
Lothar
So Generally... Cap your Hit at 27%, Expertise at 26... or 6.5% than focus on building str over crit? i mean at what point do i want to stop stacking Crit? should i even stack crit? or should i just strait up focus on str?

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Old 10/16/10, 3:49 PM   #19853
buddyro18
Glass Joe
 
Dwarf Warrior
 
Darkspear
Imp for affliction, really?

[quote=Mystearica;1774194]Did you remember 3/3 Dark Arts & Glyph of Imp? Using an Imp as affliction is only remotely possible as the Drain spec. Even then I'm unsure which will do more. Especially now that it was pointed out that the Imp doesn't scale past the 1.5sec GCD, where the Succubus doesn't scale with haste at all. You can probably get away with only putting 1 or 2pts into Dark Arts(probably 2 if you're reforging Haste into Mastery for Draining) & still get 3/3 SnF with the imp, if its capped at 1.5sec.[/QUOTE

Why would i reforge haste into mastery? That makes no sense at all for affliction. Crit into mastery, yes. Will make sure have the glyph up on my next tests, thanks.

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Old 10/16/10, 3:55 PM   #19854
Bogarden
Glass Joe
 
Dwarf Death Knight
 
Lothar
Not that the target dummies are the be all end all of the universe but there for a few days I could manage 9 to 10k on them now I am barely cracking 8.5. I am mortally certain its not that I am screwing up. So my question is what are the some of you able to do on the dummies just for a baseline comparison so maybe I can figure out if I really am messing up or something. Here is my armory: Striphe of Lothar

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Old 10/16/10, 4:07 PM   #19855
optional22
Von Kaiser
 
Orc Death Knight
 
Cho'gall
If I'm getting some bad luck with RC on dummies, I get about 9.5k. If I'm getting good luck, its about 10-10.5k DPS (I don't use cooldowns on dummies)

Last edited by optional22 : 10/16/10 at 4:36 PM.

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Old 10/16/10, 4:14 PM   #19856
Mystearica
Piston Honda
 
Blood Elf Warlock
 
Magtheridon
Originally Posted by buddyro18 View Post
Why would i reforge haste into mastery? That makes no sense at all for affliction. Crit into mastery, yes. Will make sure have the glyph up on my next tests, thanks.
Once again, for the DRAIN Spec. Drain affliction gains more from mastery than Haste. Tho when I toyed around with it the values for mastery were higher.

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Old 10/16/10, 4:17 PM   #19857
Talara
 
Draenei Paladin
 
Gorgonnash (EU)
Speed of Light - Grants 1/2/3% spell haste and reduces the cooldown of Holy Radiance by 30 sec. Casting Holy Radiance increases your movement speed by 20/40/60% for 4 sec. (From MMO)
Hi Guys,
doesn't that mean our 2nd AoE Healspell (with Lvl 83) is going to have no CD? If that's true, aren't we able to get the niche of a raidhealer? Wouldn't that be fun?

atm I think we have no real role in a raid. I believe that our mastery is still one of the best, but I can't figure out how effective it is, without logs which take our shields into account.

Thursday, while I was raiding, I thought "Uh dear Sarah, you are of no use here anymore." But in fights with a lot of aoe-dmg income, I've got a lot of HPS only through LoD (I switched to the 20sec CD glyphe). I still have to get routine in this HS-HL/DL-HL/DL-WoG rhythm (with switching targets in the most effective way and so on), but I like the healstyle. It's a lot of fun. (But atm I'm missing my HL glyphe.)

I will try to test a little bit with: Mastery>Haste/Int>Crit>Spirit. I still believe in absorbs>heals. And with an aoe-heal (LoD or Holy Radiance) you get so many little shields all over the raid.

So far,
Talara

Addition: Nice to meet you. I hope my english is readable. :x

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Old 10/16/10, 4:20 PM   #19858
buddyro18
Glass Joe
 
Dwarf Warrior
 
Darkspear
Imp for affliction, really?

Originally Posted by Mystearica View Post
Once again, for the DRAIN Spec. Drain affliction gains more from mastery than Haste. Tho when I toyed around with it the values for mastery were higher.
Thank you for only reading the first line of my post. /ignored.

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Old 10/16/10, 4:21 PM   #19859
 Zakalwe
The Chairmaker
 
Orc Warlock
 
Balnazzar
Originally Posted by Mystearica View Post
Tho when I toyed around with it the values for mastery were higher.
Makes sense considering they cut drain soul damage in half.

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Old 10/16/10, 4:22 PM   #19860
terence20
Glass Joe
 
Orc Death Knight
 
Ravenholdt (EU)
May I have one leveling build for Shadow?

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