Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 1326

broon · 10/16/10, 9:06 PM

thank you so much for the help with the mongoose and beserking confusion.

nickanthony · 10/16/10, 11:24 PM

Thanks for the response

Well since the new patch actually tells me what exactly I'm at for hit and expertise when it comes to lvl 83 bosses, I guess I'm really just trying to figure out what my crit is on the chart they use here. I mean if they tell me my crit cap is 1.4 and I can't find anything on my toon but 48.78% or crit rating 1066 then how do I know if I'm over or under? Is there some special formula that everyone uses or something?

Akkron · 10/17/10, 12:32 AM

Originally Posted by Alextria

So i didn´t read the whole thread forgive me when someone posted it already.
Did anyone Notice that our Communion Spell is bugged?
Tooltip says 2% dmg for me exclusive and 3% dmg for everyone who is in range of my Aura like the Buff from the Arcan Mage.
I myself have dmg multiplier in my char screen from 107% ---> 2% from Communion + 5% from T10 Setbonus. Here i miss 3% from the Raidwide buff. Yes my Aura was active

For testing i invited a Mage first he had Fire spec. Nothing happens
Then he repecct into Arcan with the 3% dmg Buff and my Multiplier went from 107% to 110%.

Anyone notice this too?
And sry for bad english :P

I noticed this too. I figured it might be some sort of bogus "group synergy" idea that only activates in group, but that is also not the case. Probably good idea to send bug-reports to Blizzard about it.

On another note has anyone tried using 2-pc 258 T9 with 2-pc T10? The 5% damage modifiers stack on the character sheet, so this could potentially be a gain as long as the stat loss between gear doesn't cause a loss of 2% damage (4-pc T10 is roughly 3% extra overall damage or so).

Ekeln · 10/17/10, 12:38 AM

Originally Posted by Jessamy

Add these two lines to the beginning and end of your macro.

/script UIErrorsFrame:UnregisterEvent("UI_ERROR_MESSAGE")
/script UIErrorsFrame:RegisterEvent("UI_ERROR_MESSAGE")

Thanks for this.

Babathong · 10/17/10, 12:41 AM

Exemplar stated earlier that it is not a viable option to use 2pc 258 T9 and 2pc T10, as opposed to 4pc T10.

Roccor · 10/17/10, 1:00 AM

Well I was going to post my parses but without changing gear, I can't drop any lower than 188 Exp rating. But out of 1000 white melee only hits, I had 0 Dodged even with a .50% change of Dodge in the Character sheet. Now as a comparison my Hit miss chance on a level 83 mob was .34%. During those 1000 hits I had 3 misses, so that definately tells me that the character sheet is wrong in it's estimations.

chinoyabeta · 10/17/10, 1:09 AM

Luego del hit, es mejor crit o haste?

After the hit, crit or haste is better?

Ikutaba · 10/17/10, 1:38 AM

Originally Posted by Shaithis

So I guess that we can safely conclude that the heroic training dummy is bugged.

The only way you can make this assumption is to perform the same test with hit rating.

Mcdewbie · 10/17/10, 3:06 AM

I'm going out on a limb here and would like to suggest not hard capping hit. Although hard capping that hit rating against the target dummies seemed to help alot with rage generation to be honest it's probably going to be wasted stats in a fully raid buffed environment.

With much trepidation I went into my first raid today since the hotfix with a paltry 15.7% hit rating and although my melee swings missed on average 11% of the time my overall damage and DPS were substantially better than I've ever seen pre patch and hotfix. Rage management is a real consideration now but a timely battle shout and other CDs I found it doable. Execute is...ohh how do I put this? Stupidly OP now. I saw a few 47k execute crits and although I do love those big numbers it's a redonkulous over shoot by Blizz imo. Slam is dead and Execute is your new bff.

Abbatöir · 10/17/10, 3:22 AM

So i was wondering if H-Cryptmaker would be our new BiS wep?

i have it and i squeezed around 160+ haste with it... that was from reforging expertise and hit.

Also whats the deal with DBW now? is it BiS now hmmmmm...

Calidus · 10/17/10, 3:33 AM

TY for the sheet first of all. Here are the numbers i loaded in the standard destro spec and rotation:

	Unbuffed	Buffed
Health	32104	35084
Mana	       33996 	37701
Armor	2460	        2460
Stamina	2512  	2810
Intellect	2028 	2235
Spirit	362	362
Spellpower	1179 	  4396
	Rating 	Percentage
Hit	454    	17.31
Crit	445   	33.30
Haste 1058	32.27
Mastery218	12.75
Trinkets:	Dislodged Foreign Object	
	Phylactery of the Nameless Lich

My output was

DPS
15,423.2

+10 Intellect	15,466.3	4.3	per	Intellect
+10 Hit	        15,423.2	0.0	per	Hit
+10 Haste	        15,446.4	2.3	per	Haste
+10 Crit	        15,445.1	2.2	per	Crit
+10 Mastery	15,448.2	2.5	per	Mastery

Based off of the information out of the simcraft thread i believe my haste value should be higher than it shows in the spread sheet, especially considering i am far below the cast cap when compared to BiS gear.

Edit: I think the reason why the scaling numbers seem off is because the spread sheet is checking with a small value of only +10, while this would be much more accurate when someone is closer to the haste soft cap, for someone like myself i think it might prove to be inaccurate. Also with Immolate getting extra ticks with haste that + 10 could make some one get an extra tick which would have a big impact on their dps and it would show haste in general as a higher scaling factor than it actual is. Is it correct to say the haste has become some what of a modified step function?

MtnShadow · 10/17/10, 3:37 AM

I don't have time to read all these pages, but I'm pretty sure speccing into stampede for dps would really only help DPS in PvP or fights where you need to run out. I've found spending my points else were is better for DPS.

Tjlock · 10/17/10, 3:50 AM

Originally Posted by Warlocomotif

It's multiplicative, ie, with 1400 haste from gear the cast time of a spell would like like:
hasted cast time = normal cast time / 1.05 / (1 + (haste rating / 3279))

Values. reforging

for destro soft cap is 1405.3 ? so if im only at ~1200(haste) shoud warlock reforge crit to haste until he will reach this cap (1400) and later reforge to mastery ? Or we want to reach hard cap 1639.5? and only at this point care about mastery and always reforge to haste until we will reach it?

Warlock_401_Destruction Sta=0.0090 Int=4.3239 SP=3.0306 Hit=5.9050 Crit=2.4704 Haste=4.5237 Mastery=3.1306

Shakooza · 10/17/10, 3:58 AM

Originally Posted by cmb1705

Made the changes Rouncer talked about, rechecked priorities. Came up with this as highest:
ST
LL
MW5_LB
FS
ES
SS
SW
SR

I'm not an expert and still bit new with Enhsim, but as far as I could see, this priority was comfirmed when analyzing damage meter, after doing rotation on test dummy for 20 minutes.

another problem is, as for now ST doesn't attack a dummy (just me, or other people having this?)
yet still: average damages: LL > LB > FS > ES > SS
just a matter finding out where to fit cooldowns and ST refresh

Zavach · 10/17/10, 4:17 AM

Have any of the combat rogues noticed that wounding poison MH seems to be consistantly ahead in dps over instant MH? Around 200-300 dps for me.

Thoughts?